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General Discussion / Igor Dyatlov Simulation
« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on May 01, 2025, 04:22:08 AM »
So I have created an artificial intelligence of Igor Dyatlov for entertainment purposes. Here is a direct link, ask him questions and help me to "program" him if you find any errors. It is for entertainment and research. Bear in mind there may be mistakes as "he" is a work in progress. He can speak to you in any language.  https://chatgpt.com/g/g-68135355d21881918093fc2d1cba49ca-igor-dyatlov
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General Discussion / Re: Puzzle with 5 (10) corpses
« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on May 01, 2025, 03:47:44 AM »
While this "other woman" theory seems to have been debunked, I believe it's important to post these things occasionally, as new users (like me) to the forum, may not have seen them before.

The “Neznakomka” (“Unknown Woman”) is one of the more enduring—and most thoroughly debunked—Dyatlov Pass legends. Here’s how the myth grew and why virtually every serious investigator today rejects it:

1. Origin of the Myth
A blurry figure on the negatives: When several of the Dyatlov group’s undeveloped film rolls were finally processed, one frame shows a vaguely humanoid shape standing some distance from the tent. Conspiracy-minded websites and forums immediately dubbed her the “Neznakomka,” suggesting the hikers were stalked by a mysterious tenth member or a shadowy Mansi hunter
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2. Popular Theories about the “Unknown Woman”
A secret tenth hiker: Some claimed she was a tenth expedition member never officially recorded, perhaps a spy or a guide who disappeared under suspicious circumstances.

A local pursuer: Others posited she was a Mansi tribeswoman intent on driving the students off “her” mountain.

Paranormal entity: In occult circles she’s even been labeled a ghost or extraterrestrial observer.

3. The Reality Check
Multiple exposures and artifacts: Closer analysis of the entire film reel shows this “figure” only appears on a single frame, in a location where later images reveal snowbanks, tree stumps and camera-strap shadows. In other words, it’s a parallax artifact—a quirk of film development and double-exposure—rather than a flesh-and-blood human
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Trail evidence: If there had been a real person that close to the campsite, fresh footprints in the snow would have been obvious. None were ever documented beyond the nine hikers’ tracks.

Group testimony & records: All nine members appear by name in diaries, university approvals and tent inventories; no tenth name or alias ever surfaces.

Why the Myth Persists
Mystery fuels speculation: The Dyatlov case remains officially “disputed,” and gaps in the Soviet-era files invite endless conjecture.

Compelling imagery: A vague, human-shaped blur is exactly the sort of photo that fans of supernatural and cover-up theories love to exploit.

Bottom Line: There was no tenth member, indigenous stealth-hunter, or ghostly watcher hiding behind that flimsy tent. The “Neznakomka” is simply a quirk of old film and a testament to how hungry we are for an extra twist in an already baffling tragedy.
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General Discussion / Re: Puzzle with 5 (10) corpses
« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on May 01, 2025, 03:40:15 AM »
For entertainment purposes only. Not to impinge. Here's what my research assistant says:

1. Origin & Date
Source: One of the undeveloped film rolls found with the hikers’ bodies on the slope of Kholat Syakhl (“Dead Mountain”).

Date Taken: January 31 or February 1, 1959—on the outbound leg of their “Grade II” ski trek, just before they set up camp on the open slope.

2. Who You’re Seeing
Likely Subject: Most scholars identify her as Lyudmila Dubinina (one of the two young women in the group), seated on her skis beside her pulk (sled) and gear. Some have also suggested Zinaida “Zina” Kolmogorova, since both women wore similar parkas and used identical equipment—but the consensus leans toward Dubinina.

3. Gear & Setting
Ski Pulk: The small sled at her side carried much of the party’s camp equipment—tents, cooking gear, sleeping bags. In this shot you can see the canvas straps and wooden frame.

Forest Edge: Behind her are the larch and birch trees lining the ravine where the bodies would later be discovered. This exact slope became the site of the four hikers’ deaths from massive internal trauma.

4. Photographic Significance
Final “Normal” Moment: This frame shows the group relaxed and in good spirits—no sign yet of the catastrophic events to come that night.

Chronology Anchor: Investigators used photos like this to pin down the party’s timeline, confirming they reached the clearing on February 1, built their tent in the open snow, and then—for reasons still debated—cut their way out hours later.

5. Relation to the Ravine Injuries
No Visible Clues of Explosion: Even in high-resolution scans, you won’t find scorch marks, deformation of metal equipment, or any physical indication of a blast-wave on the tent or sled in this—or any—photo.

Contrast with Autopsy Findings: The serenity of this image contrasts sharply with the autopsy reports: four victims found in the nearby ravine suffered “severe chest fractures” (rib, sternum and spine) consistent with a high-energy pressure wave—yet with no external bruising.

6. Fuel for “Tenth Hiker” & “Unknown Woman” Theories
The “Neznakomka” Myth: Some conspiracy-minded researchers point to a distant figure seen in a separate roll of Dyatlov photos and christened the “Neznakomka” (“the unknown woman”), suggesting the group was stalked by a mysterious tenth person.

Counter-Explanation: That figure is almost certainly a snowbank or tree stump seen through multiple exposures—there is no authenticated “hidden” passenger in the pulk.

Bottom Line
This image is a poignant snapshot of Lyudmila Dubinina (or possibly Zina Kolmogorova) at the very moment the hikers still believed they were on a routine winter ski tour—just hours before the incomprehensible injuries and deaths in the ravine transformed them into one of Russia’s most enduring mysteries.
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General Discussion / Re: Strange injuries to Kolevatov
« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on May 01, 2025, 02:53:00 AM »
I do believe in some sort of explosion. A meteor would explain it but twice? I consider two events. One to get people out of the tent and the ravine event.
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General Discussion / Re: Puzzle with 5 (10) corpses
« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on May 01, 2025, 02:50:05 AM »
Why post a picture of random pictures when all the photos are not from the 1959 Dyatlov pass incident.

It is either a deliberate effort to cause harm and damage the credibility of the forum or to purely get hits and prolong the debate .

Why not just troll him about his mum like last time? And what are you talking about "the credibility of the forum?" Where else is he supposed to post it? And the accusation that he's not interested in anything other than his own glory is a bit rich coming from you. You're on every post slinging ad hominem attacks around!

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General Discussion / Re: Puzzle with 5 (10) corpses
« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on May 01, 2025, 02:41:05 AM »
In addition to the 12 scattered photographs listed on the page

https://dyatlovpass.com/loose-photos

There was also a photo of a girl who was shown in the first film about the Dyatov Pass (1997-1999)



In is photo (format .PNG) from Russian forum .
Even in those years, only 40 years later, no one identified any UPI student in this girl.
Perhaps this is the tenth or eleventh victim that nurse Zoya Savina saw in the morgue in a headscarf.

I've never seen this before, thanks for giving me something new to study!
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General Discussion / Re: Puzzle with 5 (10) corpses
« Last post by Ziljoe on May 01, 2025, 12:58:37 AM »
Why post a picture of random pictures when all the photos are not from the 1959 Dyatlov pass incident.

It is either a deliberate effort to cause harm and damage the credibility of the forum or to purely get hits and prolong the debate .
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General Discussion / Re: Puzzle with 5 (10) corpses
« Last post by Ziljoe on April 30, 2025, 10:47:07 PM »
This girl among other photos



A table top with some photos ?
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General Discussion / Re: Puzzle with 5 (10) corpses
« Last post by GlennM on April 30, 2025, 08:01:21 PM »
It seems unreasonable to me that the 10th or 11th person is never referred to in diaries. I believe it to be a total fiction and a distraction from the real questions ofnthe mystery.

The woman in the photo had a name. Who knows where the photo was taken. Further, if the girl wound up dead, what has that to do with the hikers?  Nothing.

Imstead, let us agree on where the last camp was. Let us agree on the unknown compelling force. Let us agree on what happened in the ravine. We need no 10th ghost.
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General Discussion / Re: Puzzle with 5 (10) corpses
« Last post by Axelrod on April 30, 2025, 05:30:09 PM »
This girl among other photos


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