« Last post by hoosiergose on June 03, 2020, 10:24:49 PM »
You seem to be very articulate and very knowledgeable concerning this incident.
It's just coincidence. I have had information about this case for long time (since 1978). Since then, it has been constantly coming back through the appeals of various friends and acquaintances of mine. So I want tell them something honestly and without any fantasy about the real conditions of the incident.
There is lot of talk about the fact that this case is constantly discussed at different levels for 60 years. That's not true. In Sverdlovsk (now Ekaterinburg) friends of Dyatlov and his friends in the group knew and talked about it for 60 years. It is true. But it was only inside the travelers club of their university. In other parts of the USSR there was practically no information about this case. More precisely, it was only very limited, very rare and only for some random reason.
I learned about it only because I, as a volunteer, was chosen as a vice-president of the Federation of Travelers among Students of the USSR (Central Council of the Sports Society "Burevestnik" in the USSR) in 1978. Since my comrade Heinrich Stukov was then the head of the Travel technique Security Department of the Main Travel Council from the USSR Trade Unions, I went to him and wrote down in his notebook all the accidents of the students that were known at that time. There were lists, which in the criminal case were numbered from 36 to 39 ( https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-36-39?rbid=17743 ).
That's what I had as background information. It was clear to me that nothing specific was written there. There were separate ideas and assumptions, but all of them were nothing more than private opinions of those involved in the search, but nothing more than opinions. Then there was no information or ideas about what I might not have. Suddenly, there was idea in 1984. We had seminar about aeronautical and space ergonomics at our university and in our department (at that time I was partly engaged enseigner this science, together with applied biomechanics and the development of flight crew rescue equipment at our university), which was attended by Professor Pinkus Schlaen from the Centre for the développement Ergonomics section for Aviation. He was major scientist in this science. In private conversation, I told to him (and Associate Professor /lecturer in the American system/ our department Alexander Donov) this story and all the problems in understanding the course of events in the Dyatlov group. He said that all this is very similar to the infrasound effect to the human body and subsequent events. Since then, I have started study it purposefully.
Among the travelers to the USSR until 1999 (probably except for Sverdlovsk itself) there was no talk about it (the very case with the Dyatlov group). In the press and TV, after 1990 something appeared but only in some regions and it was not in the discussions among large number of travelers and rescuers.
The Sverdlovsk regional press and one newspaper in the Pavlograd region (this was written by investigator, and then by the retired Prosecutor of this region, who at the time was attorney Lev Ivanov - yes, the one who handled the case of the Dyatlov group) in 1990, there were separate publications. The most competent and reliable articles were written by journalist Rimma Pechurkina. Unfortunately, they drowned in mass of others who "chewed" various speculative details.
When in 1999, the local magazine of the Sverdlovsk region published hotel excerpts from Anna Matveeva's women's story "The Dyatlov Pass" and the local press began promote the topic and in what preceded the emergence of the Internet - the electronic network FIDO - the first discussions among travelers appeared. I pay attention to this, because these are people who have the necessary training to intelligently and with knowledge of the details of the case to discuss what happened. This is very different from the idle conversations of ordinary people, even if they are very angry at me for this remark. This is the main thing - it is necessary have real and practical knowledge base, so that it would be possible judge what any person talks about. This is one of the signs of reliability of the information offered.
Then, in 2005 and (mainly) in 2006, there was a broad discussion of this topic on the Internet. Originally it was on the site of TAU (Ural TV Agency), the general producer of which was Anna Matveeva's mari Innokenty Sheremet. Everything that I now say at this forum, I began say back there. During this time there have been practically no changes in my main statements. The only thing that has increased is that I have made 5 winter and 2 summer (the very first and basic for this study) expeditions to the pass. And the fact that before that I had already had experience in winter and summer travel (total of more than 100), since 1959, and more than 20 search and rescue expeditions, similar to that of the Dyatlov group, from 1971 to 1991. But I am not professional rescuer, I deal with other problems in my main field. They are related to rocket and aviation equipment and concern rescue (partly and various other components of items) sections of these branches, for example, issues of life support of aircraft crews, including on the ground, after the accident. This, too, makes it possible judge what happened because there is the necessary knowledge about the applied problems of the components of these sciences.I honestly would like to hear your thoughts or ideas on what you honestly think happened to the Dyatlov hikers back in February 1959?
In 2010 and 2012 the American writer Donnie Eichar came to Ekaterinburg collect materials for his book ( https://www.amazon.com/Dead-Mountain-Untold-Dyatlov-Incident/dp/1452140030 ). Yuri Kuntsevich, the president of the "Dyatlov Group Memorial Foundation", recommended me as the main consultant and guide in his journey to the mountain pass, because he was exploring the same hypothesis that I followed and at that time there was no one who knew better than me the details of the place and the events taking place there directly.
So you can read the main parts of this hypothesis yourself. However, I couldn't explain everything to him in more detail (or he didn't understand because he's film producer and writer, not physicist), so some details were left out of his description in the book.
I have already written about the difference in description by Donnie Eichar and what is observed on the spot and is the defining detail of this phenomenon. This is also the case in this forum.
There is some feature of discussing this hypothesis - I do not discuss it with those who do not have sufficient knowledge of the physics of this very phenomenon. Because almost everybody speaks with words from the Internet, the meaning of which they do not understand, or with their inventions, which do not correspond to this phenomenon in any way. There are very few people all over the world doing this - literally few dozen people, so there is very little scientific information. What journalists are writing is as relevant to the description of this phenomenon as the famous puff cake for the Waterloo Battle. The letters there are the same, and they make no sense.
So far, all real discussions have been with only 2 or 3 specialists with the qualification of Doctor of Science and Professor at leading university.
@ WAB- Sir- I asked you a very direct simple question- what do you think happened to the Dyatlov Hikers?