Vladislav Karelin answers me
Hello, Anatoly.
Regarding the transportation of the bodies: The bodies of Doroshenko, Krivonischenko, Dyatlov, and Kolmogorova were found on February 27th, taken to Ivdel on March 3rd, and an autopsy was performed on March 4th. Slobodin's body was found on March 5th, and the autopsy was performed on March 8th. We hoisted the two bodies from the cedar tree one after the other.
I consider the geologist's story untrue.I answer him: The existence of a sixth body follows from your own testimony.
1)
https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-290-292-ruFour bodies were found that day: Kolmogorova, Dyatlov, Krivonischenko, and Doroshenko. We initially mistook the latter for Zolotarev because his face was covered in snow. We then identified the fourth body as Doroshenko. The next day, the Dyatlov group's tent was dismantled and three bodies were taken to the pass.
My comment: so perhaps it was Zolotaryov, and then Doroshenko, found on the slope next to his lover Zina, was planted in his place.
https://dyatlovpass.com/resources/340/gallery/Dyatlov-pass-case-files-77.jpg(On the diagram, the fourth body on the slope is crossed out for some reason)
When Doroshenko was planted there, you identified him.
2) Dyatlov Pass. Truth Hunters. Episode 3:
Vladislav KARELIN (in the film): The next day, we were retrieving bodies from the pass. Our team was tasked with retrieving Doroshenko and Krivonischenko's troupes from under the cedar tree. We spent the entire day retrieving them, fashioned a sled out of skis, and hauled them up. And then the extensive, but unpromising work began... 61 years have passed. And yet the interest remains. The state
is obligated to provide an answer to the relatives. It is obligated!
I AM WRITING: How can one respond? One can only understand something by analyzing the testimony both within and outside the case. Let's imagine that I am an investigator from the Investigative Committee. Kuntsevich said that professionals should handle the case. Let's imagine that I am a professional, even though I only wrote computer programs and looked for where they make or could make mistakes.
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https://dyatlovpass.com/tipikin-ruStas TIPIKIN (about March 1): In the very first hours after arriving at the pass, I, as part of Axelrod's group, began working to lift the bodies of Doroshenko and Krivonischenko up the pass. These are my first impressions.
At the end... (There's such a photograph. However, only Krivonischenko's body remained under the cedar.)
But in the first photo
https://dyatlovpass.com/resources/340/gallery/7-006.jpg I see that it is Krivonischenko, not Doroshenko, who is lying at the edge.
Sogrin also reports (about March 1st)
https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-330-339-ruHere we also learned that four bodies were found: Dyatlov, Kolmogorova, Krivonischenko, and Zolotarev, the latter later turning out to be Doroshenko. Once the crash site was established, all search teams dispersed and redeployed to the crash site. Maslennikov was appointed head of the search team at Height 1079.
On March 1st, Akselrod, Tipikin, and L.N. Ivanov and I were dropped off at the crash site. We were met by a large group of people, heavily bundled up in balaclavas. The wind blew snow into their faces and tried to push them off the plateau. They quickly loaded Dyatlov's belongings and those of several others into the helicopter. Behind a large rock lay three bodies, already dragged up to the helipad.
My comment: "who later turned out to be Doroshenko" is simply a Freudian slip.
Then they went to the tent, then to the cedar, from where they lifted two bodies.
Could the helicopter have carried one body at that point?
Question 12) Upon arrival, were the dead men's belongings and tent loaded into the helicopter? Did anyone fly away from the pass in that helicopter?
TIPIKNIN: As far as I remember, we didn't load anything into the helicopter. Upon arriving at the pass, we immediately headed to Dyatlov's tent, and from there down to the cedar. And then, harnessed to sleds, we ascended the pass with the bodies of Krivonischenko and Doroshenko. !!!So, we simply didn't have the time, nor the need, to observe the helicopter!!!
Moisey AKSELROD writes
https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-316-329-ruWe immediately had to change from boots to felt boots and help load the Dyatlov group's tents and belongings into the helicopter. Three bodies—Kolmogorova's, Dyatlov's, and Doroshenko's—were already lying near the outlier rock on the pass, having been brought from the valley.
Helicopter pilot POTYAZHENKO reports in an interview with Olga on May 25, 2014
We were moving forward—the first body was lying there. I approached it and looked at it… completely frozen… Now we reached the third. I didn't go any further; it was a long climb back. This correlates with the crossed-out body on the slope. Since the bodies were removed on March 3rd, autopsied on March 4th, and Slobodin was found on March 5th, he couldn't have been the third body on the slope. If it was the body by the cedar, then he should have seen two bodies at once... Potyazhenko is talking about three separate bodies. How could that be?
The day before, MASLENNIKOV sent a telegram (February 28, page 160): One man was wearing boots, the others were barefoot and wearing socks. Further up the slope, the snow was very deep, and probing the tent yielded nothing. The dogs couldn't do anything all day, the snow was deep. We recovered three bodies from the helicopter. We'll be recovering the fourth tomorrow—his face was completely covered, so there's an opinion that it was Doroshchenko and not Zolotarev. They're both the biggest guys.
Yuri KOPTELOV found the first two bodies under a cedar tree with Sharavin.
https://dyatlovpass.com/koptelov-2008-ruWe were delivering the bodies to the pass. The five people we found. They said there would be a helicopter at the pass to pick up the bodies and take you. The helicopter arrived and picked up all the bodies, but they didn't pick us up that day. We flew out the next day. NAVIG: You flew away and never returned?
KOPTELOV: Yes, we were already in Sverdlovsk on March 5th.
Again, how could he have seen Slobodin's body if he had already left on March 5th with Sharavin?
Mikhail Sharavin died three days before the announcement of the prosecutor's investigation results on July 11, 2020.
Here's his deathbed confession:
https://lenta.ru/news/2020/07/11/turist/The tourist who discovered the tent of the missing Dyatlov group has died. It was Sharavin, along with Boris Slobtsov, who were the first to find the cut and abandoned tent on the slope of Mount Kholat Syakhl. From February 29 to March 4, 1959, he participated in the search for the group, which disappeared under strange circumstances. With his help, the first five bodies of the deceased tourists were discovered.
https://dyatlovpass.com/resources/340/gallery/1S-09A.jpg1S-09A: The bodies of the dead are being lifted to the helipad. Photograph from E. Serditykh's camera. From the Karelin archive. Three bodies are being lifted: the one in the distance is Dyatlov; next to him is Kolmogorova, lying on her side; the one closest is Doroshenko. A bundle of short probes is visible. The photo was most likely taken on the evening of February 28.
I've already corresponded with Teodora about not seeing a third body being dragged in the photo. She refused to correct it. Later, I thought it might have been Krivonishchekno's body (with the bent leg). And Doroshenko's body. The man in the fur hat looks like Tipikin. So I was also wrong in seeing Kolmogorova and Dyatlov there. Previous researchers have so confused the events surrounding their visions that one can't help but believe and rely on their findings.
3)
https://www.kp.ru/daily/217166.5/4267261/ (August 10, 2020)
New details of the Dyatlov Pass tragedy...
Vladislav Karelin doesn't agree to appear in federal projects, but this time, he made an exception specifically for Komsomolskaya Pravda and Channel One. In the program, he will describe in detail how he discovered Rustem Slobodin's body under a thick layer of snow.
"He was lying on his stomach, with his legs slightly tucked in," Vladislav Georgievich recalled. (The article is titled: "He was lying on his back, with his legs slightly tucked in." :) Why all the confusion?
Incidentally, I'll point out an important detail: behind Karelin is
https://www.kp.ru/daily/28350.5/4497562/a bookcase with books. There are a lot of fairy tale books there (Moldovan Fairy Tales, Adyghe Folk Tales, Fairy Tales of the Peoples of the World – a waste-paper edition). It's immediately obvious that the person sitting in front of you isn't a tourism enthusiast, but a lover of fairy tales, including those about balloons flying in the sky.
Maya [PISKAREVA] reports in her section
https://samlib.ru/p/piskarewa_m_l/bloknotgrigoriev.shtmlI'd like to especially note: this article is the first to mention the missing group of students from Rostov, as well as the death of another tourist from Chelyabinsk. And that six bodies were initially found.
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