February 04, 2025, 10:39:36 PM
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Author Topic: Accident & killing  (Read 8572 times)

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January 11, 2025, 05:49:26 PM
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GlennM


He could have done a better job taking a picture of a ski forest.
We don't have to say everything that comes into our head.
 

January 14, 2025, 03:09:42 AM
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SURI


A hollow, cut-off ski pole in a tent – ​​a possibility of hiding a message? And only the last person to take a picture of the attackers could have wanted to hide it there.

In that last photo, you can see not only the light from the flashlight, but also the outline of a squatting figure. The head and bent right arm are hidden behind the moving light of the flashlight. As he sat down, the flashlight also moved downwards.




 

January 14, 2025, 05:12:57 AM
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SURI


It looks like the real Evening Otorten has begun, as planned. But not for fun.
 

January 14, 2025, 05:48:01 AM
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SURI


And all this under the leadership of Dr. Tibeaux, the postdoctorate of sciences Dubinina, and the chief constructor Kolevatov.
 

January 14, 2025, 11:46:40 AM
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SURI


Imagine that Evening's horror. Maybe you're already alone in the tent, your friends are outside the tent, and your other "friends" are attacking them, as you found out through the tent's cross-sections, and now they want to get you too. One of them starts shining a Dyatlov flashlight on you and comes after you. You don't know what to do first. Whether to grab a camera and take pictures, or cut a stick and leave a message, or cut a tent.
 

January 14, 2025, 01:04:59 PM
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SURI


I think they didn't all run out of the tent at once, but gradually. Dyatlov was the first to be lured out and was immediately attacked by a group of four and his flashlight was taken from him. Kolmogorova could have been the next one to hear something and unsuspectingly come out of the tent. Then it could have been Slobodin, who had already heard more and ran out more urgently with only one shoe. Only the last two could climb out through the tent that had been cut open. Doroshenko and Krivonischenko.
 

January 14, 2025, 05:27:46 PM
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GlennM


All any of us need is evidence. Just because a thing is logically consistent does not mean it is actually right. When people get too enthusuastic in their construct, it is a short leap, but a long haul to write the "tell all" explanation for the DP9. Several do this, but nobody is completely satisfied.
We don't have to say everything that comes into our head.
 

January 14, 2025, 10:38:11 PM
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SURI


I consider the Evening Otorten as proof. There is a clearly identified leading group, which ultimately ended up in the ravine together. Coincidence? I don't think so.
 

January 14, 2025, 11:09:04 PM
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SURI


I think I could even write the order of death of all the tourists. It is mistakenly assumed that both Yuris died first. I don't think so. It might also seem that when they were found by the fire, they started the fire. I don't think so either. I would put Dyatlov first and Kolevatov last.
 

January 15, 2025, 08:55:45 AM
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GlennM


If you detail your arguement,  the forum may give you a review. Be advised that theories are defeated in two ways. First, the theory does not include all the established facts. Second, the researcher makes a speculation by logic or intuition . Many investigators use induction. ( this swan is white, so all swans are white) as opposed to deduction ( all swans I've seen are white, the next one will also be white). Put differntly, induction argues if you've seen one you have seen them all. Deduction is from many clues,, one conclusion. Both methods are entirely logical, but may be wrong in fact as you can tell. Further, if you are being scientific about this matter, science deals in greater or lesser probability versus absolute certainty. Science has very, very few immutable laws ( everything hotter gets colder etc.) but instead has many theories ( which means the best explanation until something better comes along ( theory of evolution as an example)). Good luck.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2025, 02:53:38 PM by GlennM »
We don't have to say everything that comes into our head.
 

January 16, 2025, 03:21:00 AM
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SURI


I think the key to everything is that Combat leaflet – the Evening Otorten, which was dated February 1st. Everything fits together and corresponds to what happened at that place on that date.
 

January 16, 2025, 04:34:02 AM
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SURI


And who was against whom is also clear from both the combat leaflet and the overall scene.
 

January 16, 2025, 03:51:49 PM
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Ziljoe


And who was against whom is also clear from both the combat leaflet and the overall scene.

I can't help my self , dear suri,

How does the combat leaflet fit and how does it fit everything together.?
 

January 16, 2025, 11:51:55 PM
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SURI


I'm really sorry that you don't see that and are unnecessarily looking for other explanations that have gotten you nowhere. Do you think that the combat leaflet with this title appeared there by chance and then "suddenly" 9 tourists died? Doesn't the autopsy report say that the tourists bore signs of a struggle? Don't you see the battered Kolmogorova, where it's most visible?