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July 13, 2025, 03:17:03 AM
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Axelrod


Thoughts after discussion


Sorry, and I will try to explain where I'm coming from . IAM guessing your conclusion comes from this page

https://dyatlovpass.com/death#Thibeaux

It state's,

"From what kind of force could Thibeaux-Brignolle have received such injury?

In the conclusion, it’s shown the damage to Thibeaux-Brignolle’s head could have been the result of the throwing, fall or jettisoning of the body. I don’t believe these injuries could have been the result of Thibeaux-Brignolle simply falling from the level of his own height, i.e. falling and hitting his head. The extensive, depressed, multi-splintered (broken fornix and base of the skull) fracture could be the result of an impact of an automobile moving at high speed. This kind of trauma could have occurred if Thibeaux-Brignolle had been thrown and fallen and hit his head against rocks, ice, etc., by a gust of strong wind.

Is it possible that Thibeaux-Brignolle was hit by a rock that was in someone’s hand?

In this case, there would have been damage to the soft tissue, and this was not evident.

How long could Thibeaux-Brignolle have lived after the trauma. Could he have moved on his own, talked, etc.?

After this trauma, Thibeaux-Brignolle would have had a severe concussion; that is, he would have been in an unconscious state. Moving him would have been difficult and, close to the end, movement would not have been possible. I believe he would not have been able to move even if he had been helped. He could only have been carried or dragged. He could have shown signs of life for 2-3 hours."



My relative Moisey Axelrod himself did not suffer during the treks and during the search (only morally). But a misfortune in the form of a broken skull of the head, as was the case with Rustem Slobodin or Thibeaux, befell his nephew (his sister’s grandson):

www.newsru.co.il/israel/4jun2007/pavel_102.html (June 4, 2007)

A young man who was beaten after the “From Russia with Love” concert has died

Police report that 17-year-old Pavel Kozlov died at the Rambam Hospital (Haifa), who was seriously injured during a fight that occurred after the “From Russia with Love” concert, held on May 17 this year in Tel Aviv’s A-Yarkon Park.

Pavel Kozlov studied at a boarding school in the north of the country. Together with his friends, he came to a concert, after which he was attacked.

About two weeks ago, police detained 21-year-old Haifa resident Sergei Tanashko, who, according to witness testimony, attacked Kozlov. He may soon be charged with murder.

The body of Pavel Kozlov was taken to the Abu Kabir Forensic Medical Center.

Hundreds of police officers ensured order during the “From Russia with Love” gala concert. Ambulances were constantly on duty near the concert venue. Despite the fact that about 150,000 young people attend each concert, the police usually manage to prevent serious incidents.

Article in Hebrew:

www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3408295,00.html

-on the issue of moving Rustem Slobodin and Thibeaux-Brignolle after a skull injury.
 

July 13, 2025, 04:41:30 AM
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Ziljoe


I am sorry to hear such sad news Axelrod.

It would suggest that all these injuries happened in or very close to the ravine.
 

Today at 04:07:31 AM
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Axelrod


Translation of article in Hebrew newspaper.
this is about the possible transfer of Rustem Slobodin or Kolya Thibault after a head injury.

(https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3408295,00.html)

Boy who was attacked at the "From Russia with Love" festival has died.
(Avi Cohen and Achiya Rabad Published: June 04, 2007, 08:30)

About two weeks ago, 17-year-old Pavel Kozlov returned to his room at the boarding school after being beaten in a fight in Yehoshua Park. The next day, he lost consciousness and was hospitalized at Rambam Hospital, where he died last night.

Pavel Kozlov, the 17-year-old boy who was attacked by youths during the "From Russia with Love" event in Ganei Yehoshua in Tel Aviv about two weeks ago, died early Monday morning at Rambam Hospital in Haifa. Kozlov's body, which had been fighting for life for the past two weeks, was transferred to the Institute of Forensic Medicine to determine the circumstances of his death.

The tragic incident that ended in Kozlov's death occurred more than two weeks ago, on Thursday, as a result of a fight during the annual "From Russia with Love" music festival. The boy involved in the fight returned to the Yemin Ord boarding school near Zichron Yaakov and refused medical treatment.

Kozlov was found in his room by friends around 11:00 a.m. the next day, suffering from seizures. Paramedic Roy Otmazgin, who arrived at the emergency room from MDA Carmel Hospital, reported that the boy was unconscious and had obvious signs of violence on his body, especially "flashlights" in his eyes.

"Examinations revealed data indicating severe head trauma," Otmazgin said. "He had hemorrhages all over his body, especially in the eye area. We realized that he was conscious last night and refused to be evacuated for medical care."

Kozlov was transferred to Rambam Hospital in Haifa on a ventilator in serious condition.

Kozlov was hospitalized in the neurosurgical intensive care unit and underwent surgery to reduce intracranial pressure. "We hoped that he would recover, since he briefly regained consciousness after the surgery," the hospital said. However, the young man soon lost consciousness again, never regained consciousness, and died from complications caused by the injury.

So far, police have arrested one person on suspicion of assault – Sergei Tenshko, a 21-year-old soldier from Haifa. It is assumed that he and Kozlov had known each other since the time when Tanashko spent several weeks living in a boarding school.

The Ministry of Education reported that the general director of the ministry had appointed an investigative committee to investigate the circumstances that led to the injury and death of the student.