New breakthrough idea

[Hunter]

Regarding the skis, Askinadzi said the searchers simply didn't take the skis with them. They can be seen in a photo from 1963. The "fluctuating" number of skis near and under the tent is explained by the criminal case file, where testimony states that the searchers themselves took the skis.
And given how Tempalov handled the case, it is not surprising that the number of skis changes in the testimony.

[Axelrod]

Regarding the skis, Askinadzi said the searchers simply didn't take the skis with them. They can be seen in a photo from 1963. The "fluctuating" number of skis near and under the tent is explained by the criminal case file, where testimony states that the searchers themselves took the skis.
And given how Tempalov handled the case, it is not surprising that the number of skis changes in the testimony.

At the conference on February 2, 2023, where Vadim Skibinsky presented his theory about a rocket launched from the village of Polyarny, there was a requirement for a documented version.

In this case, my version is supported by documents from Tempalov – eight pairs of skis, the ninth pair is not in the protocol. It's strange to blame me for this. If they moved the skis, as you say, they could also have made a mistake in reporting nine pairs of skis. All my conclusions are based on a few documents – eight spoons, eight mugs, eight pairs of skis, and eight tent tracks. This all follows from the documents. What you propose is an alternative version, a conspiracy theory, so to speak. Yes, there are cases where alternative versions and "conspiracy theories" are true, but they are complex theories.

The Dubinina case is one possible explanation for the eight pairs of tracks. But she is the best candidate. By the way, the writer Yarovoy, as the first researcher, also suggests Dubinina's departure from the tent, but my account of Dubinina's voyage is more drastic.

The only thing that confuses me in the report is that Tempalov described three pairs of felt boots (six pieces), and then described seven in Ivdel. But a separate seventh felt boot could have been in the backpack, which was only examined in Ivdel. As you can imagine, skis could not have been hidden in the backpack.
Regarding Tempalov. As I saw in previous messages, you agree with Tempalov's opinion that it was either alcohol or vodka. No one else mentions the presence of vodka; everyone talks about alcohol. Sharavin, who drank it, is especially insistent on this. As Yudin says, they didn't have any alcohol, and buying vodka in 1959 was much easier than alcohol. I am forced to ignore the witness Sharavin's opinion. In this case, I agree with Tempalov's opinion. I think the probability of eight tracks is higher than nine, but there could be different explanations. For example, someone stayed overnight near the storehouse. That's a separate theory.

Tempalov is the only person who insists on eight tracks. Sogrin says there were nine tracks and nothing else, based on his own assumptions.
So, things aren't so bad with Tempalov. Everyone is providing us with valuable information.

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TRANSLATED FROM: На конференции 2 февраля 2023 года, на которой выступал Вадим Скибинский со своей версией ракеты, запущенной из посёлка Полярный, было такое требование – версия, подтверждённая документами.

В данном случае моя версия подтверждена документами от Темпалова - 8 пар лыж, девятой пары лыж в протокле нет. Странно упрекать меня в этом. Если они перетаскивали лыжи, как вы говорить, они также могли ошибиться, указав на 9 пар лыж. Все мои выводы основаны на нескольких документах – 8 ложек. 8  кружек, 8 пар лыж и 8 следов от палатки. Это всё следует из документов. То, что предлагаете вы, относится к альтернативной версии, так сказать, к конспирологическому объяснению. Да, есть случаи, когда альтернативные версии и «теории заговора» имеют место в действительности, но это сложные теории.

Случай с Дубининой - это один из вариантов объяснения 8 пар следов. Но она лучший кандидат.
Кстати, писатель Яровой как первый исследователь тоже предполагает отход Дубининой от палатки, но у меня вояж Дубининой более кардинальный.

Единственный момент, который меня смущает в протоколе, что Темпалов описал 3 пар валенок (6 штук), а потом описано 7 штук в Ивделе. Но отдельный седьмой валенок мог находиться в рюкзаке, который был осмотрен только в Ивделе. Как вы понимаете, лыжи никак не могли спрятаться в рюкзаке.
Насчёт Темпалова. Как я видел в предыдущих сообщениях, вы согласны с мнением Темпалова, что это бог быть спирт или водка. Про наличие водки никто больше не говорит, вся говорят про спирт. Особенно на этом настаивает Шаравин, который его пил. Как Юдин говорит, что спирта у них не было, и купить водку в 1959 году было гораздо проще, чем спирта. Я вынужден игнорировать мнение свидетеля Шаравина. Я в данном случае согласен с мнением Темпалова.
Я считаю, что вероятность 8 следов больше, чем вероятность 9 следов, но могут быть разные объяснения. Например, кто-то остался ночевать у лабаза. Это отдельная теория.

Темпалов - единственывй человек, который на это настаивает на 8 следах. Согрин говорит, что было 9 следов и никак иначе, исходя из каких-то своих соображений.
Так что с Темпаловым не всё так плохо. Каждый сообщает нам ценные сведения.

[Ziljoe]

My understanding is that there was 9 ski's . 10 if you count the ones at the labaz. It is said somewhere that they gave skis to the sappers i think as they hadn't brought any and i believe skis were used as markers. It is also reported that  two skis were tied together and lying at the entrance.

I think its blatantly obvious that no one was the slightest bit concerned about how they handled the tent or its belongings with regards to a crime scene that needed investigating . People took what they wanted from the very beginning. The casefiles also suggest that they knew they weren't supposed to do what they did in moving stuff and then tried to move things back.

They took a camera and some alcohol , they cut the tent from the outside and dragged it. Sledges were made from ski's to drag the bodies.

[Axelrod]

We know there were 10 pairs of skis on the expedition (one pair was a spare on a rope).
I propose the following layout at the time of the emergency:
1 pair in the storage shed
7 pairs under the tent
1 pair vertically at the entrance
1 pair, which Lyuda used to storm Otorten.
In the previous photo in the forest, we see two vertical pairs of skis near the tent; this is the usual layout. Lyuda took one pair of skis, leaving one pair by the tent.
When Tempalov arrived on February 28th, the vertical pair of skis became horizontal.
He assumed all the skis were originally under the tent. He doesn't describe the ninth pair of skis because it wasn't there.
When the storage shed was later found, the pair of skis was moved to the total, which affected the ski count. Now there are nine pairs of skis.
The hikers' skis had uncomfortable old bindings – not the same as those used by the searchers who arrived.

The skis Lyuda used to visit Otorten were found 60 years later. Oleg Taimen captured the discovery on video.

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Мы знаем что в походе было 10 пар лыж (одна пара была запасная на верёвке).
Я предлагаю такую схему на момент ЧП:
1 пара в лабазе
7 пар под палаткой.
1 пара вертикально у входа
1 пара, на которой Люда ушла штурмовать Отортен.
На предыдущем фото в лесу мы видим 2 вертикальные пары лыж около палатки, это обычная схема. Люда взяла одну пару лыж, осталась одна пара у палатки.
Кода прибыл Темпалов 28 февраля, то вертикальная пара лыж стала горизонтальной.
и он посчитал, что все лыжи были изначально под палаткой. Он не описывает девятую пару лыж, потому что её не было.
Когда позднее был найден лабаз, пара лыж была перемещена к общему количеству, что повлияло на подсчёт лыж. Теперь стало 9 пар лыж.
Лыжи туристов были с неудобными старыми креплениями – не такие, как у прибывших поисковиков.

Те лыжи, на которых Люда ходила к Отортену, были найдены через 60 лет. Олег Таймень заснял это на видео.

[Ziljoe]

I'm pretty sure they say they gave skis to the sappers or searchers . There were no skis standing at the tent  when discovered otherwise they would be in the statements, all that is said to be seen is the south entrance the tent  , the skis would tower above the tent .

I don't think theres any proof to who's skis Oleg found.

[Axelrod]

When Oleg found these skis, he described them as having the same bindings as those of the Workers' and Peasants' Red Army, which tie with laces.

So these are definitely skis from the Dyatlov group. Yudin describes them as having such skis.

I remember my mother's red skis, which were left over from when she lived in Serov back then (1953-61).
They look like the bindings with graduations I got at a student camp in Moscow in the 1990s.
I see similar bindings in the photo when the searchers placed their skis next to each other. These skis are different.

So, Dyatlov's group received all sorts of old equipment from the UPI tourist club, and perhaps the reasons for the incident should also be sought in this.



Олег ТАЙМЕНЬ при находке называет эти лыжи с креплениями Рабоче-крестьянской Красной Армии, которые завязываются на шнурки.
Поэтому это достаточно однозначно лыжи из групы Дятлова. Юдин описывает, что у них были такие лыжи.

Я помню красные лыжи мое й матери, которые остались со времени, когда она жила в Серове в те годы (1953-61).
Это похоже на те крепления с делениями, которые я брал получал на студенческой турбазе в Москве в 1990-х.
Такие де крепления я вижу на фото. когда поисковики поставили там вои лыжи рядом. Эти лыжи отличаются

Так что группа Дятлова получила в турклубе УПИ всякое старьё из снаряжения, и возможно причины инцидента надо искать также в этом.

[Ziljoe]

Perhaps but there would  be a mix of skis for the volunteer searchers too.

[Axelrod]

Perhaps but there would  be a mix of skis for the volunteer searchers too.

You don't understand my train of thought.
If I'm constructing a theory (and perhaps that's what happened) that Lyuda went to Otorten and returned to the cedar tree in response to a signal, smoke from a fire, or other signs, she could only have gone there on skis. I'm not constructing such crazy theories as someone leaving the tent barefoot after the collapse, but fumbling and rearranging their skis after the accident, as the German researcher suggests. I'm not so mentally weak as to offer such delusional theories. The question arises: where are the skis? There they are!

Perhaps that's not the theory that had place. Then what's the alternative theory?

And it's completely unlikely that the searchers lost their own skis, or the ones they were supposed to have. That's truly unlikely. Therefore, I ignore such an objection. I need a potential possibility, not proof for a court.

[GlennM]

If I understand this theory. Lyuda departs from the tent which is at elevation 880 on 1079. She traverses the ridge route on skis skies because skiing is better than walking. This implies that there are not many ski damaging rocks exposed on the ridge. She either goes directly to a cairn, or she circles Ortoten and finds the cairn. She leaves nothing at the cairn to certify she arrived successfully. However, having done so, she leaves and proceeds to ski downhill to the cedar, which is a landmark of sorts. Apparently the tent was relocated to the forest while she was gone. Once there, the skis are depreciated for digging. Since they are said to have vanished, it may be that the group decided to burn them for heat. Am I getting this right? If so, I have new feelings about how she totally dominated every man on the trek, and the men allowed it. Super woman, limp wristed men!

[Ziljoe]

Perhaps but there would  be a mix of skis for the volunteer searchers too.

You don't understand my train of thought.
If I'm constructing a theory (and perhaps that's what happened) that Lyuda went to Otorten and returned to the cedar tree in response to a signal, smoke from a fire, or other signs, she could only have gone there on skis. I'm not constructing such crazy theories as someone leaving the tent barefoot after the collapse, but fumbling and rearranging their skis after the accident, as the German researcher suggests. I'm not so mentally weak as to offer such delusional theories. The question arises: where are the skis? There they are!

Perhaps that's not the theory that had place. Then what's the alternative theory?

And it's completely unlikely that the searchers lost their own skis, or the ones they were supposed to have. That's truly unlikely. Therefore, I ignore such an objection. I need a potential possibility, not proof for a court.

Please forgive me , i wasn't trying to undermine your ideas. In my mind lots of equipment was utilised in different ways and possibly broke or was left behind.

I'm sure that one of  the earlier searches stated that some of the other searchers arrived without skis. It is not a big deal and we know they used skis to make at least one sledge to drag the bodies up the slope .

I remember seeing a photo that showed what looked like a pile of old skis lying against a rock. Anyway. I looked at Oleg's video. Does it have a location for these skis at the ravine?

[Axelrod]

If I understand this theory. Lyuda departs from the tent which is at elevation 880 on 1079. She traverses the ridge route on skis skies because skiing is better than walking.

The group covered 10 miles (16-17 km) per day, each carrying a backpack weighing 30-40 kg.
If we imagine moving without this backpack, we could have covered twice as much: 20 miles or 36 km. This is the distance to Otorten and back.

My theory is that Dyatov's group ascended to a sufficient altitude (around 12 noon), approximately where the tent was pitched, to observe Lyuda's movements to Otorten and back.

We have testimony from another group that only two of the 10 people climbed Mount Chistop to exchange the note there, while eight remained below 10 km away.
Since Otorten is rich in rocks, there are also many options for placing the note.

[GlennM]

Of course, the elephant in the room is that there is no evidence any DP9 hiker achieved Otorten and left written, nor photographic proof, sigh!

[Axelrod]

Of course, the elephant in the room is that there is no evidence any DP9 hiker achieved Otorten and left written, nor photographic proof, sigh!

You should look for Lyuda's note on the nearby rocks. I've indicated it with arrows.


There's also a photograph of Otorten, here it is. It's an image of the rocks visible in the new color photo.
Because her camera ended up around Zolotarev's neck when Lyuda arrived at the cedar.

[GlennM]

In 60 years of both summer and winter expeditions to the area, the hundreds of ernest searchers would surely have discovered. Moises Axelrod would have been smart enough to figure this out and find the evidence long ago. High intelligence and imagination seem to be a family trait.

[Axelrod]

I think how similar is her second phoro to two pillars od Otorten gates.

Do you see a pass between them om this photo?


Normal modern photo:

[GlennM]

I see a sincere effort to discover the truth in a mystery. Keep the family tradition going in honor of your ancestor.

[sarapuk]

nor disprove it. Let's move on, nothing to see here.All this is doing is plumbing the depths of what we either do not know, or refuse to believe. In the DPI, the result being known is still subservient to why it happened at all. In that regard, we can either blame Igor's leadership or blame circumstance. In this forum, we hear very,very few voices proposing it was Dyatlov's fault. Haters love to imagine friction with Zolo, or Lyuda, but not enough friction to knife a tent  open. It beggers imagination to believe the tent was cut to see a Yeti, LGM, assasins, or great balls of fire. We all know how they left, not why.

Well, actually, we don't know why they left the tent. That's the whole point.

[sarapuk]

The text was originally written in Russian (Russian text in the second message).

This Saturday was the holiday of February 14th, and I rested all day. I also rested on Friday (perhaps I observed the Sabbath). I broke away from the tiring grind, and thanks to this, I woke up today with fresh thoughts.

The matter of the scabbard found near the tent on May 5th was recently discussed. There's a radiogram and a recording of Tempalov's interrogation about it. There's also a note about a spoon being found. At first, I didn't attach much significance to the presence of spoons, as they can have little impact. This spoon could also have been lost by the searchers eating condensed milk from cans (there's a photo of that).

But recently I decided to check the number of spoons and was a little surprised. Initially, I learned that two spoons were issued against a receipt (to relatives of Tibo and Kolevatov). But the last line in the early report reads:

Dishes: spoons - 7, mugs - 5, aluminum cups - 3, buckets - 2, stove with pipes. (Signature: Yudin)

Where the sluggish investigator Ivanov got his hands on the 5 spoons is a whole other story.

There's an old Jewish joke:

"Were you visiting us yesterday? After you left, the silver spoons disappeared!"

"But I didn't take them, I'm a decent man!"

"But the spoons are gone! So don't come visit us anymore!"

The spoons were soon found.

"So, can you come visit?"

"Well, the spoons were found, but it left a bad taste in your mouth!"

So, the eighth spoon was found on May 5th. There were also eight mugs and eight tent tracks (Tempalov writes there was no ninth track). All this suggests that there could have been eight people in the tent, not nine. How could that be?

When considering who might have separated from the group of eight, I initially assumed it was Zolotaryov. But as we can see in the photo outside the forest, Zolotaryov is the last person willing to move forward and is resisting.

So I continued my speculation and decided it could have been Dubinina. This idea arose through a mechanical search (excluding Thibeaux and Kolevatov), ​​but then I realized that everything pointed in that direction.

Brusnitsyn's testimony: The expedition to the Northern Urals was conceived back in the fall. Its initial organizers were Yu. Vishnevsky, L. Dubinina, and S. Bienko. At first, they had trouble getting things going: they lacked organizational experience and, most importantly, couldn't assemble a group. This continued until Igor Dyatlov took charge (organizing the group). Igor was considered the most experienced hiker in our section.

Axelrod's testimony: And already upon our return to Sverdlovsk, the question arose of where these hikers would go the following winter. This question hadn't been definitively resolved, and I only learned of Dyatlov's final route from him himself...

From this, it's clear that no one really wanted to go on that hike except Dubinina. For example, Thibeaux-Brignolle wrote in a letter before the hike that we were going somewhere beyond Chistop. It didn't matter, just anywhere!

Indeed, Dubinina could have been the main initiator of the hike to that place. Of course, Pyotr Bartolomei may now recall that six months and a year before, Dyatlov was eager to go to Otorten, but the 1959 documents say otherwise (and not only that).

Indeed, the situation could have developed like this. Lyuda says, "You don't want to go, but I do! You stay here, and I'll go! I'll go and come back."

The question about the second tent. This odd thing might have popped up in several pieces of evidence (Nevolin, the report to the Central Committee, etc.), but we don't see any photos of the second tent. It's possible that a separate tent was sewn from 5 meters of fabric. Okay, this isn't a definitive point, just another premise for further discussion.

Lyuda could have grabbed some porridge in a mug with a spoon for a snack, left a note on Otorten on behalf of the group, and returned. Why did Lyuda want to go there? As we know, her mother worked as a secretary for Academician Semikhatov, and the institute was involved in rocket automation. Perhaps Lyuda wanted to observe the rocket flight from Otorten. That's an option.

Meanwhile, the group of eight people remained at the pass. The tent was pitched in a place safe from the wind, but if you walked 150-200 meters, you could see the path to Otorten. I won't go into all these theories again, but Lyuda lost her tongue. It turns out Lyuda was closest to Otorten, saw more of everything, and lost her tongue. Either people or the gases had this effect.

Lyuda Dubinina walked the 30 km (round trip) on her own, but didn't have time to leave a note.

How did she move? There's a video of Oleg Taymen using a metal detector to find skis in a ravine. It's safe to assume they were the skis Lyuda used to cover those 30 km.

So, something happened, and the group of eight descended. They launched flares near a cedar tree and a stream, as Vladimirov from Chistop testified. Shumkov, however, said a flare was flying across the sky. Someone shouted, "You could paint a picture!" There were two of them there, and both saw different missiles (in Russian, these words are the same). Perhaps that's what happened.

So, Lyuda came from Otorten to the signal near the cedar and saw the whole scene. Three were missing, two were lying under the cedar. Kolevatov, Thibeaux, and Zolotaryov were lying there, groaning, where they were found in May. They were buried under snow, just as the hiker Eremkin later lay for 12 hours under it. She heard their screams, tried to free them, tried to push aside the piles of snow, but ended up buried under it herself.

You state that there's a video of Oleg Taymen using a metal detector to find skis in a ravine. It's safe to assume they were the skis Lyuda used to cover those 30 km. Where is this video!?

[GlennM]

I had it that metal detectors were abandoned in favor of probes because the hikers were not equipped with enough metal to produce good readings. Further, who wants to mine sweep a hillside for a mile and then have to turn around and do the same sticking poles in the snow? People have lives of their own, too.

[Hunter]

GlennM, the metal detectors were quickly removed, and avalanche probes were sent to replace the ski poles they'd previously used to poke the slopes in search of bodies.
As for "their own lives," the searchers changed periodically, plus there were soldiers there, and in Soviet times, conscripts (privates, corporals, sergeants, and sergeants-majors) were essentially a universal labor force, and an unpaid one at that. This ranged from helping collective farms harvest crops to building a dacha for a comrade general. Therefore, the soldiers there had no "own lives," and the civilian searchers changed periodically.

[GlennM]

two out of three isn't bad.

[Axelrod]

I noticed a number of oddities in the materials, which I initially perceived as errors in the testimony, because there's no way such a thing could happen. Only recently did I understand how this intricate system of equations is solved. Let's now compare the four sheets:
1. Radiogram (March 5): There is a wound on the wrist. The Pobeda watch on the wrist has stopped at a quarter to nine.
2. Description of the corpse (March 8): The left arm is pulled back and to the side, straightened at the elbow. He is wearing a Zvezda watch, which shows 8:45.
3. Axelrod's testimony (April 24): He was lying face down, with his arms outstretched. The thumb joint of one of them, the right, was abraded by something. He was also wearing a watch on this hand.
4. Rustem's mother's receipt (October 28): A Pobeda watch on a strap.

How could a Zvezda watch have ended up on Rustem's wrist in the morgue? My first thought was that pathologist Vozrozhdenny had misrepresented the watch's name, as the Zvezda watch was only on Dyatlov's wrist (at 5:31 a.m.). But then I noticed something odd: Zolotarev's mother received her son's money and belongings through Sogrin before the body was found. A Pobeda watch, a camera, and several other items were listed there.

My second discovery was that Zolotaryov's mother had received a completely different Pobeda watch (while her son, along with his Pobeda watch, lay under the snow), and in the fall, his Pobeda watch was returned to someone else. Imagine the uproar Zolotaryov's mother caused when she arrived in Ivdel in early March.

"I am the mother of Zolotaryov, a war hero who died on a hiking trip near Ivdel. My son had a Pobeda watch... This watch is dear to me as a memory left behind by my son." Don't forget to return it to me when you find his body! I beg you, please help me get this watch! Do I really need to go to court over something like this?

Ivanov says: "We'll probably never find your son..." But then Ivanov sees the Pobeda watch on Rustem's wrist and realizes what he can do. He needs to console his mother somehow. The Zvezda watch was removed from Dyatlov's wrist on March 4th and is lying in the safe. But the watch's name doesn't match. And here, the name does. Without thinking twice, Ivanov removes the Pobeda watch from Rustem's right wrist, sets Dyatlov's watch to 8:45, and attaches the Zvezda watch to Rustem's left wrist. He tells Zolotarev's mother: "Don't worry! I found his watch in his backpack."

This idea occurred to me when I noticed that Moses Axelrod describes the watch on his right hand, while the Reborn indicates the watch by describing his left hand. How could such a discrepancy exist? It's clearly someone's mistake, because no one would move a watch from one hand of a corpse to the other! I pondered this unsolvable system of equations for a long time. And finally, I found a reasonable explanation for how this could be.

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Я заметил в материалах ряд странностей, которые я  сначала воспринимал как ошибку показаний, потому что никак не может такого быть. И только недавно я понял, как решается эта замысловатая система уравнений. Сравним теперь четыре листа:

1. Радиограмма (5 марта): имеется рана на кисти руки тчк На руках часы "победа" остановились без четверти девять тчк .
2. Описание трупа (8 марта): Левая рука оттянута назад и в сторону, разогнута в локтевом суставе. На руке часы "Звезда", которые показывают 8 часов 45 минут.
3. Показания Аксельрода (24 апреля): Он лежал животом вниз, раскинув руки, на одной из которых - правой, был чем-то ссажен сустав большого пальца. На этой же руке были часы.
4. Расписка матери Рустема (28 октября): Часы "Победа" на ремешке.

Как могли на руке Рустема в морге оказаться часы «Звезда»? Первая мысль возникает, что патологоанатом Возрождённый неправильно описал название часов, потому что часы «Звезда» были только на руке Дятлова (5 часов 31 минута). Но потом я заметил такую странность, что мать Золотарёва получила деньги и вещи сына через Согрина, пока труп не был найден. Там указаны часы «Победа», фотоаппарат и ещё ряд вещей.

Второе моё открытие было, что мать Золотарёва получила вообще какие-то другие часы «Победа (пока её сын вместе с часами «Победа» лежал под снегом)», а осенью его часы «Победа» с руки Золотарёва были возвращены кому-то другому.  Представим, какой скандал закатила мать Золотарёва, когда приехала в Ивдель в начале марта:

«Я мать, погибшего в туристском походе около Ивделя героя войны – Золотарёва. У моего сына были часы «Победа»… Эти часы дороги мне  как память ,оставшаяся после сына. Не забудьте вернуть их мне, когда найдёте его труп!  Обращаюсь к Вам я убедительно прошу, помогите мне в получении этих часов! Неужели из-за такой вещи мне нужно еще обращаться в суд?»

Иванов говорит: вашего сына мы наверное, уже не найдём… Но потом Иванов видит на руке Рустема часы «Победа» и понимает что можно сделать. Надо же как-то утешить мать. Часы «Звезда» сняты с руки Дятлова ещё 4 марта и лежат у сейфе. Но название часов не совпадает. А здесь название совпадает. Недолго думая, Иванов снимает часы «Победа» с правой руки Рустема, а на часах Дятлова выставляет время 8-45 и прикрепляет часы «Звезда» к левой руке Рустема. Матери Золотарёва он говорит: «Не беспокойтесь! Я нашёл его часы в его рюкзаке».

Эта идея у меня возникла, когда я заметил, что Моисей Аксельрод описывает часы на правой руке, а Возрождённный указывает часы, описывая левую руку. Как может быть такая нестыковка? Это явно чья-то ошибка, потому что никто не будет переставлять часы с одной руки трупа на другую! Я долго думал над этой нерешаемой системой уравнений. И наконец я нашёл разумное объяснение, как это могло быть.

[SURI]

In this picture, Slobodin is wearing a watch on his left hand.

[Axelrod]

In this picture, Slobodin is wearing a watch on his left hand.

It's truly odd that Ivanov removed the watch from his right wrist and put a new one on his left.
Perhaps my relative was mistaken. But this prompted me to make my discoveries.
However, this doesn't rule out the possibility that he replaced the watch so that the Pobeda watch could be returned to Zolotфrнov's mother—as a memento of her son.
And he put Dyatlov's watch on Slobidin's wrist, that remained after examination of the previous days.
Otherwise, if the forensic expert can't correctly describe the watch's name, then perhaps he made another mistake?

[sarapuk]

I had it that metal detectors were abandoned in favor of probes because the hikers were not equipped with enough metal to produce good readings. Further, who wants to mine sweep a hillside for a mile and then have to turn around and do the same sticking poles in the snow? People have lives of their own, too.

That's a strange thing to say about a big search involving lots of rescuers.