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Organizers: Alexey Korolev and Alexander Fedotov.
A large expedition trip to this legendary and extremely anomalous place in the Northern Urals starts at the end of January’24 from Yekaterinburg. Participants will completely repeat the path of Dyatlov’s group and spend three nights in a tent at the site of the 1959 tragedy.
At the Pass itself, three days and three overnight stays are planned: two at the Dyatlov Tent Site and one in the Cedar area. This will allow you to both relax after several days of skiing and conduct a whole series of scientific experiments that can shed light on the course of the tragedy!
Details: https://vk.com/event222897791
Организаторы Алексей Королёв и Александр Федотов.
Большой экспедиционный поход к этому легендарному и крайне аномальному месту Северного Урала стартует в конце января’24 из Екатеринбурга. Участники полностью повторят путь группы Дятлова и проведут три ночи в палатке на месте трагедии 1959 года.
На самом Перевале планируется трое суток и три ночевки: две на Месте Дятловской Палатки и одну в районе Кедра. Это позволит как отдохнуть после нескольких дней лыжного перехода, так и провести целый ряд научных экспериментов, которые могут пролить свет на ход трагедии!
Подробности: https://vk.com/event222897791

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November 01, 2023, 10:26:35 PM
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Please write assignments for this expedition. What experiments should be carried out, in your opinion?
Пишите, пожалуйста, задания на эту экспедицию.. Какие эксперименты нужно провести, по вашему мнению ?
Tasks that have already been generated can be viewed at this link in my section: https://dyatlovpass1.ru/viewtopic.php?id=180#p1381
Задания, которые уже сформированы, можно посмотреть по этой ссылке в моём разделе: https://dyatlovpass1.ru/viewtopic.php?id=180#p1381
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November 01, 2023, 10:37:33 PM
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The most difficult day in terms of workload for the Dyatlov group is January 31. Traveled approximately 7.3 km. in 7 hours.
We left at 10.00. At 16.00 they are at the highest point of the ascent of the route on January 31. We climbed for 6 hours through the deep snow of a dark coniferous forest with a height difference of 375 meters. It's very hard.
Самый сложный день по нагрузке у группы Дятлова 31 января. Пройдено приблизительно 7,3 км. за 7 часов.
Вышли в 10.00. В 16.00 находятся в верхней точке подъёма маршрута 31 января. Поднимались 6 часов вверх по глубокому снегу темнохвойного леса с перепадом высоты 375 метров. Это очень тяжело.

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A site with a difference in height through deep snow in a dark coniferous forest area with rubble and obstacles.
For a segment of 5.7 km. there is a 375 meter difference in height
Участок с перепадом высоты по глубокому снегу в зоне темнохвойного леса с завалами и препятствиями.
На отрезок 5,7 км. приходится 375 метров перепада по высоте


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January 31 in the diary of Dyatlov’s group
31 января в дневнике группы Дятлова

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We left at 10.00. At 16.00 they are at the highest point of the ascent of the route on January 31. We climbed for 6 hours through the deep snow of a dark coniferous forest with a height difference of 375 meters. This is very difficult, given the accumulated fatigue over the previous days. Analyzing the diary entries for January 30, we see that signs of psychological incompatibility are beginning to appear in the group. The duty officers re do not want to be on duty on time, Luda is very offended by something. No one wants to calm her down and everyone is outraged by something... These moments can be called minor quarrels. This often happens in groups, against the backdrop of accumulated physical fatigue, when nervous breakdowns begin. In this case, you need a day and proper rest.
Вышли в 10.00. В 16.00 находятся в верхней точке подъёма маршрута 31 января. Поднимались 6 часов вверх по глубокому снегу темнохвойного леса с перепадом высоты 375 метров. Это очень тяжело, учитывая накопившуюся усталость за предыдущие дни. Анализируя записи дневников за 30 января, мы видим, что в группе начинают проявляться признаки психологической не совместимости. Дежурные повторно не желают вовремя дежурить, Люда чем то сильно обижена. Никто не желает её успокаивать и все чем то возмущены.. Эти моменты можно назвать мелкими ссорами. Такое часто происходит в группах, на фоне накопившейся физической усталости, когда начинаются нервные срывы. В этом случае нужна днёвка и полноценный отдых.
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The group climbed above the crooked forest zone, to the highest point of the route on January 31
Группа поднялась выше зоны криволесья, в верхнюю точку маршрута 31 января

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November 02, 2023, 04:23:11 AM
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Organizers Alexey Korolev and Alexander Fedotov made a slight adjustment to the Expedition plan
Организаторы Алексей Королёв и Александр Федотов сделали небольшую корректировку плана Экспедиции https://xn----7sba3aeenggcdi6a1ap8jpa.xn--p1ai/archives/4179
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Organizers: Alexey Korolev and Alexander Fedotov.
A large expedition trip to this legendary and extremely anomalous place in the Northern Urals starts at the end of January’24 from Yekaterinburg. Participants will completely repeat the path of Dyatlov’s group and spend three nights in a tent at the site of the 1959 tragedy.
At the Pass itself, three days and three overnight stays are planned: two at the Dyatlov Tent Site and one in the Cedar area. This will allow you to both relax after several days of skiing and conduct a whole series of scientific experiments that can shed light on the course of the tragedy!
Details: https://vk.com/event222897791
Организаторы Алексей Королёв и Александр Федотов.
Большой экспедиционный поход к этому легендарному и крайне аномальному месту Северного Урала стартует в конце января’24 из Екатеринбурга. Участники полностью повторят путь группы Дятлова и проведут три ночи в палатке на месте трагедии 1959 года.
На самом Перевале планируется трое суток и три ночевки: две на Месте Дятловской Палатки и одну в районе Кедра. Это позволит как отдохнуть после нескольких дней лыжного перехода, так и провести целый ряд научных экспериментов, которые могут пролить свет на ход трагедии!
Подробности: https://vk.com/event222897791


The dates of this event are approaching, but no clear program settings have not yet appeared in several Internet resources writing on this topic. All there has been is to the greatest extent commercial advertising of the event, with big advertising plans and desires. There were even suggestions of additional offers from other readers....
Is it not yet clear that commercial objectives can kill "a number of scientific experiments that may shed light on the course of the tragedy" (c)?
By the way, and no clear program of these " research" was never published.
From the experience of previous (though not at all best publicized) such entrances to the research, it was established that the real program can only be that which researchers (personally!) can draw up for themselves, taking into account their own intellectual and technical training. And with a clear schedule of research technology and a reserve of what must be done necessarily, and what can be skipped due to weather and other difficulties. The statistics of such plans (without outside influence) is such that only 2/3 to 1/4 of what is planned turns out. Additional "implementations" reduce the possibilities by exactly as much as they are accounted for. And it is necessary to prepare for them (technically and materially) additionally, for which there is neither time nor energy left. It would be better to be fully prepared for the main thing.
As well as all sorts of PR actions take away energy and time from the necessary work. By the way, unnecessary efforts on waste approaches also do not add opportunities in research. Here it is necessary to decide what is the main   шашечки или ехать  - either to go or research, or PR..... Hence the conclusions about the results.
What will be the result? Long ribbons of photos, like "we were in this place and a few meters (yards) further" (which do not indicate anything) or a short text result with the course, result and analysis of the conducted research? Illustrations are not abhorred, only they need to have a clear objective for the results and analysis of the studies 
Or will we again hear statements on camera: "Here it is blowing 15 m/s (33 kt) and it is terribly cold here..."? The wind 15 m/s (33 kt) is there almost constantly on open places near the place where the tent stood, and in winter it is always cold, which is not surprising, especially in the Urals....
So what to expect, besides loud statements in the press?

PS. Speaking of "sleeping in a tent site"... Can we be clear on what this does for research? What is the purpose? Or again, as in 2023 it will be a PR action, especially considering that "this place" was shifted more than 150 m (4500 ft) and lower down the slope...  bang1  because, "there the place is more convenient for overnighting...". "Loss, of course, one should not look for it where one lost it, but under a flashlight at night - it is brighter there" - there is such a parable....

PPS. And one more question about the advertising of the so-called "Konstantinov's warehouse place":
If it is considered that the main sign of it is a place covered with birch bark, then here is a test for вшив….. truthfulness: when you were at that place in March 2023, how much did you want to create such a planking under the snow?
If "no", then it is definitely not a reference point for the Dyatlov group camp warehouse site, and if "yes", then there is a problem of credibility to all your "research"....

My winter research of this 2014 and 2015 in terms of their trekking tactics and logistics of their route gives a slightly different place... Only until it is more precisely defined I will not publish it in full. I described the general principles a long time ago in a book published by the "Dyatlov Group Memorial Foundation". I don't know if I will be able to do it at all, but that's a whole other story....
 
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Organizers Alexey Korolev and Alexander Fedotov made a slight adjustment to the Expedition plan
Организаторы Алексей Королёв и Александр Федотов сделали небольшую корректировку плана Экспедиции https://xn----7sba3aeenggcdi6a1ap8jpa.xn--p1ai/archives/4179

Apparently, the organizers are again "drop a brick or trigger a backlash".
I skip the transfer from the starting point and back to it, although there may be problems and time losses there too, which will affect the success of the event. This, too, must be taken into account if you are serious about it.
1. If everyone's movement on January 28 will be by transportation, then it is feasible. If not, this day will be lost, at least for part of the group. How everyone should connect afterwards will it was be a problem.....
2. On January 29, it is also unclear how to carry out such an extensive program in such a short day (sunrise 9:30 local - sunset 17:00 local), especially that it will probably not be possible to leave early, as in general at the beginning of any journey... About the movement along the Auspia and the supply of the camp you can only fantasize. Especially if we take into account that the Auspia delta is a big swamp, which is not always completely frozen in winter - you can run into a section, which is slightly covered with fresh snow, and immediately deeper - it is water....
This should also be taken into account. By the way, Dyatlov's group did not go there, but made a big detour to the north. Since to go 4...5 kilometers in a day is not for this section. So they walked longer somewhere else, and there is nowhere else to go but north.
That's very optimistic, even if there's no big frost. According to the forecast it should be -15C +/- (~5F+/-), but the forecast is accurate only for 5...7 days (today - only until January 20), and then +/- 50%. Nobody canceled snowfalls according to the forecast.....
Therefore, overnight stay on the "шишка -in Russian = cone" is a very big optimism....
3. If everything will be as planned (which I very much doubt...), then the correction for January 30 will have to be made on the fact that Dyatlov's group went not to the "helmet", but further to the exit to a free place, because on the site "bump" - "their parking on January 30" on the left bank of the Auspia, parking is impossible because of steep banks and high rises. But, God help us, if we succeed....
4. On January 31, the schedule of transition is more than optimistic, especially taking into account all previous problems... If to take into account that they didn't go to the stone-island and "Konstantinov's camp warehouse " is no more than a figure of speech, it would be better to go out into the forestless area and try to dig a little snow (to understand its structure in this place - it's at least some use for research) and immediately go down to a normal parking lot. Without any mirages like "Konstantinov's camp warehouse ". Moreover, this camp may have to be left as a base camp for the next few days. By the way, "Kuntsevich's glade" is quite a suitable option. Moreover, it is already known from summer outings. We would only have enough time for daylight time (since January 29 there is practically nothing will change in daylight duration - 7 hours 32 minutes, sunrise-sunset, minus light losses due to mountain shading).
5. February 1 is another PR action with unclear goals? What do they want to achieve? Although (I am sure) the tent will probably have to be set up (if at all?) not there, but "под фонарем - under the lantern = patter " where it is more convenient... this is the very moment: what do they want to do, to really study something or to make himself PR actions themselves?
Wouldn't it be better to leave the tent where it was on January 31, and further to conduct research, the program of which is still "secret"?
All this reminds the proverb: "Хорошо бы, хорошо бы, нам моржа поймать большого…"  "It would be good, and would be good it would be good for us to catch a big walrus..." (c) Chukchian parable.
6. February 2 and 3 - the program is more than extensive, but we would like details that it would be possible to evaluate it. The " swing " was very big, but the goals and the technology of realization are not clear. As a rule, in such unclear conditions not much is obtained at all, except for a large number of photos and a set of letters that are not useful for the case. But according to the results of the trip it will be seen what has turned out....
7. The schedule for February 4 is more than tight. Especially considering the effort and resources already expended. 30 km (18.6 mi) distance in those mountains on skis is a very high expenditure of energy. Even assuming that none of the equipment will break down and there is enough daylight - 7 hours and 50 minutes. With the schedule of movement 50 minutes + 10 minutes of rest and spending 70% of the time of the whole day, it turns out to be an average speed of 4 km / h (2.5 kt). And this is not counting unforeseen time losses, which are always present. Such a schedule is feasible only for a very strong and prepared group. However, any commercially assembled group does not have such properties. I will be glad to be wrong in this case, but let's see what the result is.
8. The further schedule for the research part is of no interest. However, there may well be delays that could affect traffic and security (as a result of rushing, for example).
Judging by the results of the preliminary expedition in December https://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=1529.0 , my pessimism is quite justified...   dunno1
So, according to the results, let's see how estimates and forecasts correspond to requests and aspirations. Unless, of course, the moderator, as an "honest man", again will not delete my writings, as it was on another (Russian) forum.
Just in case, I made screenshots of the screen.
 
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January 27, 2024, 09:59:32 AM
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Today at 7:00 am the first expedition for 2024 to Dyatlov Pass started from the headquarters of the Dyatlov Group Memorial Fund. There are nine people in the group, three of them girls. Participants plan to ski along the exact route of the Dyatlov group to the Pass, which will be difficult given the current snowy winter conditions. Next, the group plans to spend three nights - two at the Dyatlov group tent site on the slope of 1079, and one in the Cedar in the Lozva valley. The plan for experiments at the location is impressive. Lets hope that the weather allows them to be carried out. The return date is February 7-8.








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I look forward to hearing any outcomes or new observations. I'll be interested to see how it all goes .
 
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January 29, 2024, 10:32:20 AM
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They spent the night in a house not far from Ushma. Today they are moving to Izba Ilycha. Temperature during day is -25°C.
But they lost me here because Izba Ilycha is not on Dyatlov's route.

 
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January 31, 2024, 11:04:21 AM
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EXPEDITION UPDATE
Tonight they pitched a tent on the Pass, where Dyatlov's tent was found. Winds are very strong.
On the way to Ilyich’s base, they visited 41st district and 2nd Northern, and "learned a lot of interesting things".
 
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EXPEDITION UPDATE 02.02
The group spends the night at the pass. In the evening thy had a live broadcast with the participants of the Memorial Evening of the Dyatlov group. Despite minor technical errors, everything worked out. Everyone is happy. Tomorrow the expedition plans to descend into the forest zone.
 
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February 04, 2024, 04:48:08 PM
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Hi,

Could you tell me what the logging community called "District 41" has become today? Are there any houses that were there when the Dyatlov group passed through?
 

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EXPEDITION CUT SHORT
Last night they slept in Vizhay, and in the morning left for Ivdel. They plan to arrive in Yekaterinburg tonight. I don’t know why they are coming back earlier than planned. They will tell us tomorrow themselves.
 
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February 05, 2024, 10:00:27 AM
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First photos from the Dyatlov Pass this year!
They said that they have spent 3 nights without heating source.

    



   





     

   
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CHRONICLE OF THE EXPEDITION "On the Path of the Dyatlov Group 2024"

04.02 The group is on the way back, now spending the night in Vizhay.
02.02 The group spends the night at the Pass. In the evening we conducted a live broadcast with the participants of the Memorial Evening of the Dyatlov group. Despite minor technical errors, everything worked out. Everyone is happy. Tomorrow the expedition plans to descend into the forest zone.
01.02 Today the group again spends the night in a tent on the Pass. During the day, we conducted experiments and research on the slope and in the Cedar area. The weather is warm -4°C, calm. No fireballs are flying over the pass, everything is fine. A LIVE COMMUNICATION IS PLANNED TOMORROW AT A MEMORIAL EVENING.

31.01 The group pitched a tent on the Dyatlov Pass. Everyone is happy, everything is fine. The weather is acceptable, only the wind is strong. There is a lot of controversy about the Dyatlov group.
30.01 Overnight in the forest, in the field, 10 km from the Dyatlov Pass. The weather is warm - 15°C, the mood is good, health is in order.
29.01 On the way we visited District 41 sites and 2nd Northern. Overnight in the house called Ilyicha's base. The place was named so not in honor of the leader of the world proletariat (Lenin), but after the patronymic of a hunter who lived in this place for a long time.
28.01 Overnight in Ushma in a house 7 km from thе village.
27.01 Departure by car from Yekaterinburg. Overnight in Vizhay.


















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THE SUNRISE DYATLOV GROUP DIDN'T SEE



Dyatlov Pass time lapse by Vitaly Dolmatov
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A short list of research conducted by Expedition 2024 from January 27 to February 5.
1. The territory of 41 forest plots was filmed from a copter.
2. Photo/video taken of territory 2 of the northern village.
3. Photo taken of a place with a view of Hoy-Ekva filming footage by Dyatlov’s group on Lozva
4. The tasks of Alexander Alekseenkov and WladimirP were partially (to a small extent) completed (Yanezh’s tasks arrived at the forum after we left Novokuznetsk). We did not get to Auspiya, Kuntsevich’s campsite or the labaz due to the combined logistical difficulties and weather).
5. An experiment was conducted on the psychological compatibility of the group in conditions of cold and dehydration.
Participant Stanislav Evdokimov was observed as a test subject.
6. Throughout the entire route, the group’s clothing was examined and compared with the clothing of the Dyatlov group. (video recordings)
7. We spent 3 cold nights at the site of the Dyatlov group’s tent. (the stove was not used at night due to strong winds, saving firewood and observing the condition of the test participants).
8. On the only morning with clear weather, a series of photographs were taken of the alleged site of the Dyatlov group’s tent from three angles. Video shot.
9. In bad weather, photographs were taken of digging a hole to the north of the tent flange and recording the time.
10. Stas Evdokimov dug a trench 7 meters 80 centimeters all the way to the ground from the site of Konstantinov’s tent in a westerly direction.
11. The section of the trench layer was examined for layering, density, avalanche hazard, etc.
13. Continuous video recording of the area from the site of the Dyatlov group’s tent to the site of where Igor Dyatlov’s body was carried out.
14. A video was taken of Stanislav Evdokimov’s descent with a heavy load from the site of the Dyatlov group’s tent to the stream and cedar tree in socks (1 hour 40 minutes)
15. A participant in the hike, an experienced surgeon Andrei Gavrilov, analyzed the stones of ridges 2 and 3, the level of the slope for injuries when descending from the tent site to the cedar.
16. Footprints of Stas Evdokimov’s bare feet were filmed from the 2nd to 3rd ridges of the slope.
17. The slope of Kholat Syakhl slope was filmed from a copter.
18. The group’s descent from the alleged site of the tent to the cedar without skis and snowshoes was filmed.
19. A pack of wolves was recorded approaching at night within a radius of 20 meters from the tent between Chaikonur and the Dyatlov Pass in the forest zone. Valery Anyamov used weapons to scare away the wolves.
20. At the Ilyich base, a lecture was organized on hikers clothing from professionals (a parallel group of manufacturers of hiking clothing) and answers were received on the clothing of the Dyatlov group. Filmed on video.
21. A study was conducted of exhibits and criminal cases without numbers in the Ivdel Local History Museum. Filmed on video.
22. Interviews were conducted with Valery Anyamov and two professional guides of the Northern Urals on many issues related to the Dyatlov group.
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February 08, 2024, 12:21:02 AM
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Молодцы! Well done guys!
Welcome back. I am impressed by the shear amount of work you did.
When you get the chance:
  • How bad was Auspiya, "combined logistical difficulties and weather", was it because you couldn't continue on the snowmobiles, they could fall though the ice?
    I guess my questions is - was it something that could have affected the Dyatlov group as well, or something specific to your expedition.
  • What were Shura's and WladimirP's requests that you couldn't fulfill, I am just curious what did they come up with.
  • It seems you cut the expedition 2 days short. Any reason for this or I didn't get it right...
 
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Молодцы! Well done guys!
Welcome back. I am impressed by the shear amount of work you did.
When you get the chance:
  • How bad was Auspiya, "combined logistical difficulties and weather", was it because you couldn't continue on the snowmobiles, they could fall though the ice?
    I guess my questions is - was it something that could have affected the Dyatlov group as well, or something specific to your expedition.
  • What were Shura's and WladimirP's requests that you couldn't fulfill, I am just curious what did they come up with.
  • It seems you cut the expedition 2 days short. Any reason for this or I didn't get it right...

Teddy, good afternoon!
We planned to ski along Auspiya, just like Dyatlov’s group. There were no plans to use snowmobiles.
This year there were unusually many gullies on the river, and in the upper reaches there is a rare occurrence of ice-covered bushes and thin trees that lay down, bent to the ground, from the weight of the ice. The same bushes blocked the Mansi path along Auspiya. It's almost impossible to get through. Therefore, we decided to move from Ilyich’s base along the watershed between Lozva and Auspiya.
2. The tasks of Shura and VladimirP can be viewed at the link: https://dyatlovpass1.ru/viewtopic.php?id=180&p=3#p2551
Before the hike, I wanted to copy these tasks to your forum, but here the photos are posted in a different way, so quick copying didn’t work out.
3. We shortened our stay on the slope by 1 day due to a bad weather forecast sent by Alexey Koskin. We also cut 1 day from the return trip. We set out on snowmobiles from the Chaikonur pass.

Тедди, добрый день!
По Ауспии планировали передвигаться на лыжах, как и группа Дятлова. Снегоходы задействовать не планировали.
В этом году необычно много промоин на реке, а в верховьях редкое явление обледенелых кустов и тонкие деревья, которые легли, наклонились к земле, от тяжести льда. Такие же кусты перекрыли мансийскую тропу вдоль Ауспии. Пройти практически не возможно. Поэтому, приняли решение передвигаться от базы Ильича по водоразделу Лозьвы и Ауспии.
2. Задания Шуры и ВладимираП можно посмотреть по ссылке: https://dyatlovpass1.ru/viewtopic.php?id=180&p=3#p2551
Перед походом хотел скопировать на ваш форум эти задания, но здесь фотографии размещаются другим способом, поэтому быстрым копированием не получилось..
3. Сократили пребывание на склоне на 1 день из-за плохого прогноза погоды, отправленного Алексеем Коськиным. Ещё сократили 1 день обратной дороги. Выехали снегоходами от перевала Чайконур.
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February 09, 2024, 05:25:01 AM
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Experiment.
The time when the Dyatlov tent was pitched on the slope was established based on two photographs made by the Dyatlov group.



At approximately the same place I took a series of photographs. Please use these photos to determine the time of shooting.
In the photo, expedition member Andrey Gavrilov
The process was also filmed on video, which shows a clock with the exact local time of photography. Time will be hidden for now


































Please determine and write the shooting time.
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Here is another photograph of the same place, but at a different time. I ask you to define it too..
In the photo, expedition member Stas Evdokimov






























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In this video of the Winter Expedition -2024, we are sitting in a tent with Andrei Gavrilov just below (30 meters) the site of the Dyatlov group’s tent and preparing for a cold night without a stove.
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Dyatlov Pass. Winter Expa 2024. In this video I take measurements above the tent site of the Dyatlov group.
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Traces of Stas Evdokimov's bare feet on the descent from the Dyatlov group's tent site to the cedar



































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Stas Evdokimov - killer of the avalanche version
Video of the Sheremet News channel. The famous presenter Vlad Nekrasov comments
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