May 24, 2025, 02:12:56 PM
Dyatlov Pass Forum

Author Topic: Murder but why.  (Read 430 times)

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

May 16, 2025, 08:57:05 PM
Read 430 times
Offline

ahabmyth


New member here- a bit confused by forums, haven't used them regularly.
So we are confused as to the how, well I believe that unless you believe in the supernatural, UFOs, Yeti etc that murder is the only reason. And the only reasonable argument.
My proposal is that the hikers were ambushed whilst in their tent slashing open the side. the hikers grabbed the clothes that were lying next to them no matter who owned them (dont forget it was dark). They were forced out into the snow but on seeing the probable 2-3 attackers with guns made a run for it downhill. Most of them made it quite a distance to the creek but a few individuals were caught (there are possibly a number of  shells around that were used to scare them but not kill them).  The people caught were ordered to remove some of their clothes and lie-down in the snow and were sometimes clubbed . Needless to say they froze to death. The two who made it to the Cedar attempted to hide by climbing the tree breaking several branches after thinking they got away they tried to make a fire but couldnt keep it going as no nearby fuel, the attackers caught up with them and like the others were forced to lay in the snow, they were positioned so they couldnt talk to each other. The attackers then caught upto the last 4 that were completely at their mercy. The hikers were clubbed with the rifle stocks and pushed into the creek. Obviously I cannot say for sure whether their attackers were Government or Mutsi but would lean to them being Mutsi as they are the only ones used to this weather and could survive in it.
Thanks for reading.
Just thinking. why not try for DNA, I realize its been a long time but if its possible to retrieve something from the Matsi hand me downs as in maybe a rifle or club and from the hikers it maybe possible for a match.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2025, 10:43:42 PM by ahabmyth »
 

May 17, 2025, 06:08:58 AM
Reply #1
Offline

Marc


Yes, I still can't get the idea out of my head that the murder theory is the only explanation for the whole mystery. In addition, some of the injuries are very difficult to explain without the presence of strangers. Pathologist Eduard Tumanov also believes that it could be murder. He paid very good attention to the nature of the injuries, better than I ever could.

There are of course several problems with the murder theory, mainly the lack of traces of the attackers. We do have traces of the group leaving the tent, but there are no traces of the strangers. Thinking about it, one could put forward a theory that maybe the attackers were not near the tent. Maybe they were not in direct contact with the Dyatlov group at all. Or if they were, it was more likely to have happened near a ravine and a cedar.
So what would scare relatively experienced hikers out of their tents at night? How about rifle shots at night. This is certainly one possibility that scares everyone - especially in a remote place and at night. Someone shot repeatedly in the direction of the tent - to scare and force the group to leave the tent. The shooting could have continued repeatedly. Someone was watching them from a distance all this time, perhaps that is why we have no traces at the scene. This would also explain why the group did not dare to return to the tent immediately. They were a good target at the tent.
Perhaps everything that followed was a combination of bad luck and fear. Falling into the ravine, trying to make a fire (although they knew that they risked becoming a target). Perhaps the shooters waited a few hours and left. They knew that hypothermia would take its toll and the goal was achieved - to sadistically scare, regardless of human life.

An interesting entry for me is in a document that was listed in the criminal investigation as Kolmogorova's diary, but neither her handwriting nor her style matched the handwriting of another diary found among the personal belongings in the tent.

January 30 entry:
" ...Today as yesterday were are following the path of Mansi. Sometimes Mansi writings appear on trees. In general, all sorts of obscure mysterious characters. There is slogan for ​​our trek, "In a country of mysterious signs". If we knew these letters, it would be possible, without any doubt, to go down the path, confident that it would lead us to the right place. Here the trail takes us to the shores of the river. We lose track. In the future, the trail follows the left bank of Auspii river, but the team of deer crossed the river and we are going through the woods. At the first opportunity we will turn back to the river. As it is easier to follow it. At approximately 2 pm we stop for a lunch. Dried meat, guest crackers, sugar, garlic, coffee, stocked in the morning - that's our lunch.
Good mood..."

Of course, the Mansi hypothesis is just a hypothesis. But it is interesting precisely because of the context.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2025, 06:17:02 AM by Marc »