Slightly different take

[Falcon73]

Hello.  I was thinking of the cut branches on the tree and the 'window.'  I don't think I have ever seen it mentioned this could have been made be external people to view the tent.  My thoughts on this being part of the scenario would mean no avalanche and no tree fall (although that is an entirely plausible theory)  Someone was tracking them for whatever reason and was watching until they saw they had settled in for the night and then attacked.  They walked the hikers down to the fire and tortured and killed them and threw the bodies in the den.  Lyuda's positioning reminds me of someone who was dragged by one person by each arm and then left.    I don't for a minute put any stock into the footprints precluding any outsiders.  I can walk in my backyard on a windy and snowy day and the tracks can all but disappear overnight. While the others were being tortured Igor Rustem and Zina ran for it but were caught and beaten down where they were found.  In this version all the injuries to all the hikers occurred while they were alive so I am also assuming the autopsy results were accurate.

[amashilu]

Hello.  I was thinking of the cut branches on the tree and the 'window.'  I don't think I have ever seen it mentioned this could have been made be external people to view the tent.  My thoughts on this being part of the scenario would mean no avalanche and no tree fall (although that is an entirely plausible theory)  Someone was tracking them for whatever reason and was watching until they saw they had settled in for the night and then attacked.  They walked the hikers down to the fire and tortured and killed them and threw the bodies in the den.  Lyuda's positioning reminds me of someone who was dragged by one person by each arm and then left.    I don't for a minute put any stock into the footprints precluding any outsiders.  I can walk in my backyard on a windy and snowy day and the tracks can all but disappear overnight. While the others were being tortured Igor Rustem and Zina ran for it but were caught and beaten down where they were found.  In this version all the injuries to all the hikers occurred while they were alive so I am also assuming the autopsy results were accurate.

This is somewhat in line with what Syunikaev said about the hikers being watched and followed:

https://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=1788.0

They were being watched… they were being followed! You see, they arrived, they didn’t even go down our road. There we have security posts all around… And they took a detour along the river and through the camp! They were given a horse there, and they were taken on the horse to the Khanty. They interrogated this Khan, the young Khan kept saying: they were let in through them!

[–] Who – them?

► Dyatlovtsev – they gave it directly to them.

[–] Killers?

► Of course! they were given them into their hands.

[–] So who? Did they kill the Khanty? Or Mansi?

► Khanty… They were watched all the time! how they did, what they did.

[–] Why did you need to follow them?

► Apparently they had a special task! But they went overboard. They saw a lot there! And those places where they shouldn’t have been!

[–] What did they see? What did they see there?

► They saw everything! (thinking) They say that there was no tent there, but they were in another place, where the four were found below, in the stream. They had a labaz there… And how they got there, up there, God knows! That's where they were beaten, all of them in the labaz.

[GlennM]

I've edited my post out of deference to the forum.
Bad things happen to good people. Nature is indifferent.

[amashilu]

Yes, but if it is murder you want,,then get to it!  This business of stalking and skulking around and not actually killing anyone makes no sense at all!  What! Drive them into the snow to freeze, but let them be able to chop branches and have matches? Absurd! How about we make them stand around while we deal with this girl's tongue first!  Lets smash two of them and leave the others alone.

The only reason to entertain these homicidal ruminations is to spin them into a,work of fiction for publication and profit.

Bad ( natural) things happen to good people. Nature is indifferent.

Glennm, you have your theory, which we are all familiar with, as you state it over and over, and never deviate from it. This is certainly one way to approach the DPI mystery and no one criticizes you for it. Other people like to discuss things.

[Falcon73]

Publication and profit? Pretty sure I won't make any money from stating my theory.  I am not insisting it is right but there is no way to rule out most of the theories without more evidence.  Stating that nature would be the simplest culprit doesn't mean that is what actually happened.  Also I forgot to mention..what if the last photograph was a flare of the type used to light up a landscape and therefore people who are fleeing in the dark?

[Ziljoe]

I'm sure flares were discussed in one of the threads , it was quite detailed but I can't remember what the conclusion was now.

Apparently vision in the dark is quite good in winter as highlighted in this year's winter expedition.

I don't think the last photo represents a flare because of its size. If I remember correctly, it is a close up of a full frame. The shading/contrast of the photo was changed at some point and  three shadows could be seen at the bottom right of the picture . Some speculated it was the heads of the hikers but it was found to be the spacing of the edges of the film.

The photos that are mostly black are zoomed in are said to be Zolos . I don't know if originals still exit as I've not found them on any sites. That's may be because the full frame has nothing of interest. The two eagle photos are slightly more interesting as they seem to show the same subject matter .

The use of the word "window" at the ceder was speculation by one of the search party I think. The branches on the ceder were broken and mostly used for the fire and by the looks of it , insulation from the snow around the fire. There is mention of some of the broken branches hanging on lower branches.

If someone was viewing the tent from the ceder I don't think they would need a window, it is easy to see out from a tree and one branch broken would be ample . The branches seem to have been broken off from the wind side , these would have been the driest . However, if branches were broken to create a window , it might be for the opposite reason , so someone up the ceder could be seen from the slope. There was a torch( flashlight) on the slope in the on position, and the three on the slope were found in a rough line . Perhaps the torch and someone waving a branch with embers glowing up the ceder could help those find the tent in poor visibility as a waypoint ( although there would be foot prints to follow back)  .

The footprints are of interest as they don't show anyone else to be at the location or following them down the slope although them walking abreast ( side by side) seems a bit unusual for the hikers or anyone trying to stage the hikers exit from the tent. I can only think of someone with a gun walking behind, for stability, to make a wider path to trace their steps back or searching for something.

[ahabmyth]

Publication and profit? Pretty sure I won't make any money from stating my theory.  I am not insisting it is right but there is no way to rule out most of the theories without more evidence.  Stating that nature would be the simplest culprit doesn't mean that is what actually happened.  Also I forgot to mention..what if the last photograph was a flare of the type used to light up a landscape and therefore people who are fleeing in the dark?

Welcome Falcon 73     There are more theories within this group than you can imagine and as what was said to myself when I joined theres a 90% surity that the theory has already been debated.
Nothing is discounted, there are a number of theories on flares. Personally I dont think they were used, first off because of a reason for finding the group and how would they be found. Something has to drop the flares and helicopters and aircraft are very noisy and a group if in fear could scatter easily. There needs to be a reason for doing this ,is the first consideration. The group wasnt reported as missing for nearly three weeks.

[ahabmyth]

[–] What did they see? What did they see there?

► They saw everything! (thinking) They say that there was no tent there, but they were in another place, where the four were found below, in the stream. They had a labaz there… And how they got there, up there, God knows! That's where they were beaten, all of them in the labaz.

I  think these were probably the ranting of an old man (86) possibly with dementia. If he was alone it makes it more prevalent because of his loneliness.

[Ziljoe]

Publication and profit? Pretty sure I won't make any money from stating my theory.  I am not insisting it is right but there is no way to rule out most of the theories without more evidence.  Stating that nature would be the simplest culprit doesn't mean that is what actually happened.  Also I forgot to mention..what if the last photograph was a flare of the type used to light up a landscape and therefore people who are fleeing in the dark?

Welcome Falcon 73     There are more theories within this group than you can imagine and as what was said to myself when I joined theres a 90% surity that the theory has already been debated.
Nothing is discounted, there are a number of theories on flares. Personally I dont think they were used, first off because of a reason for finding the group and how would they be found. Something has to drop the flares and helicopters and aircraft are very noisy and a group if in fear could scatter easily. There needs to be a reason for doing this ,is the first consideration. The group wasnt reported as missing for nearly three weeks.

I think they had hand held fares, the ROP-30 for illumination. So it could be said the hikers lit one to be rescued and that what was seen or outsiders could have carried them.

The hikers were reported missing a day or so after not returning as expected by family members. It is just under three weeks from from the day of the incident and the start of the search . The search only really gets going because family members contact the Kremlin as the UPi are dragging their knuckles. This is one of the reasons why people got demoted .

[Falcon73]

Are we forgetting flare guns?

[Ziljoe]

Are we forgetting flare guns?

What about flare guns?

[Ziljoe]

Are we forgetting flare guns?

And what on earth are "flare guns". ( dont tell me guns that fire flares ). As far as I am aware the hikers didnt carry anything resembling flares ,this is 1959, times were tough. But you maybe able to look through the inventory that the hikers took. I am fairly sure you will not find them. Even if they did on this particular day they would have been no use, besides being about 100klm from any town and 20klm from the nearest other hiking group the weather was atrocious practicaly a "whiteout" .

ahabmyth, I think falcon 73 was suggesting that others may have used a flare to chase the hikers that escaped up the slope and not for use to be used as a tool for rescue . I think his question is regarding flare guns as your post sounds like you are saying you need a helicopter to drop a flare.

It's why I mentioned the ROP-30. It's a flare rocket and was quite abundant at the time, easy to steal from the military going backwards in time. I have read that some groups of hikers carried a flare , I can't remember if dyatlov group did. If they sneaked one in their luggage for safety or fun , it might have been possible.

 
But also  possible for outsiders to have one, if they were there and if that is what falcon is suggesting.

We don't have any idea of the weather conditions at the moment of the incident .

[ahabmyth]

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[Ziljoe]

The use of the word "window" at the ceder was speculation by one of the search party I think. The branches on the ceder were broken and mostly used for the fire and by the looks of it , insulation from the snow around the fire. There is mention of some of the broken branches hanging on lower branches.

My apologies I dont usually do this but its driving me nuts.
The spelling of Cedar not Ceder. It is mentioned many many times.
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The post above is from you ahabmyth, I respond below. For some reason your posts go missing . So here is my reply.

Hey ,it's ok , I can't spell Bob backwards . I didn't mean to cause you stress. I make errors all the time. I'm not that well educated and I will try harder.

The correct spelling is "I don't". "Don't" is a contraction of "do not," and the apostrophe (') indicates that the letter "o" has been omitted. Using "i dont" without the apostrophe is a misspelling and a form of grammatical error, though it may be seen in very informal contexts.
Why "I don't" is correct
Contraction:
"Don't" is a standard and common contraction for "do not" in the English language.
Missing Letter:
The apostrophe is essential because it shows where the letter "o" has been removed to form the shortened word.
When to use "don't" vs. "do not"
"I don't": is generally used in informal speech and writing.
"I do not": is more formal and is often preferred in formal letters, academic writing, or when you want to emphasize the negation.
Example
Informal: "I don't like this weather".
Formal: "I do not like this weather".

It's or it's?

The phrase "My apologies, I don't usually do this, but it's driving me nuts" is a common way to preface a strong emotional reaction or a request for action, indicating you're not typically prone to such strong feelings or behavior but feel compelled by a particular situation or person. The "driving me nuts" part highlights intense frustration or distress, while the apology acknowledges you may be overstepping boundaries, being overly emotional, or acting out of character due to the situation.
Here's a breakdown of the components:
"My apologies":
This is a formal or polite way to express regret or ask for understanding, acknowledging that your subsequent behavior or strong statement might be unwelcome or unexpected.
"I don't usually do this":
This phrase implies that the situation is unusual or that the intensity of your feelings is atypical for you. It serves as a self-description to explain why you might be acting differently than normal.
"But it's driving me nuts":
This is an idiom that means something is making you extremely frustrated, annoyed, or even a bit crazy. It communicates that the situation is so bothersome or overwhelming that you're losing your cool.
When and why people say this:
To express strong frustration:
It's a way to express that you've reached a breaking point with a persistent problem or a frustrating person.
To preface a confrontation or difficult conversation:
You might use it when you're about to assert yourself or address something that's been bothering you for a while.
To explain unusual emotional responses:
If you find yourself being more irritable or upset than normal, this phrase can help explain your behavior by attributing it to an external factor.
As a response to repeated bad behavior:
When someone is consistently inconsiderate, disrespectful, or makes you feel unheard, this phrase can be a precursor to you finally saying something.
Essentially, you're saying you're normally more restrained or composed, but the current situation is so maddening that it's forcing you to act outside your usual demeanor.

I am not trying to get an emotional reaction from you and I am not trying to make you crazy or annoyed. If I am , please don't read my posts. Please accept my apologies .

[ahabmyth]

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[Ziljoe]

The use of the word "window" at the ceder was speculation by one of the search party I think. The branches on the ceder were broken and mostly used for the fire and by the looks of it , insulation from the snow around the fire. There is mention of some of the broken branches hanging on lower branches.

My apologies I dont usually do this but its driving me nuts.
The spelling of Cedar not Ceder. It is mentioned many many times.

The post above is from you ahabmyth, I respond below. For some reason your posts go missing . So here is my reply.

Hey ,it's ok , I can't spell Bob backwards . I didn't mean to cause you stress. I make errors all the time. I'm not that well educated and I will try harder.

The correct spelling is "I don't". "Don't" is a contraction of "do not," and the apostrophe (') indicates that the letter "o" has been omitted. Using "i dont" without the apostrophe is a misspelling and a form of grammatical error, though it may be seen in very informal contexts.
Why "I don't" is correct
Contraction:
"Don't" is a standard and common contraction for "do not" in the English language.
Missing Letter:
The apostrophe is essential because it shows where the letter "o" has been removed to form the shortened word.
When to use "don't" vs. "do not"
"I don't": is generally used in informal speech and writing.
"I do not": is more formal and is often preferred in formal letters, academic writing, or when you want to emphasize the negation.
Example
Informal: "I don't like this weather".
Formal: "I do not like this weather".

It's or it's?

The phrase "My apologies, I don't usually do this, but it's driving me nuts" is a common way to preface a strong emotional reaction or a request for action, indicating you're not typically prone to such strong feelings or behavior but feel compelled by a particular situation or person. The "driving me nuts" part highlights intense frustration or distress, while the apology acknowledges you may be overstepping boundaries, being overly emotional, or acting out of character due to the situation.
Here's a breakdown of the components:
"My apologies":
This is a formal or polite way to express regret or ask for understanding, acknowledging that your subsequent behavior or strong statement might be unwelcome or unexpected.
"I don't usually do this":
This phrase implies that the situation is unusual or that the intensity of your feelings is atypical for you. It serves as a self-description to explain why you might be acting differently than normal.
"But it's driving me nuts":
This is an idiom that means something is making you extremely frustrated, annoyed, or even a bit crazy. It communicates that the situation is so bothersome or overwhelming that you're losing your cool.
When and why people say this:
To express strong frustration:
It's a way to express that you've reached a breaking point with a persistent problem or a frustrating person.
To preface a confrontation or difficult conversation:
You might use it when you're about to assert yourself or address something that's been bothering you for a while.
To explain unusual emotional responses:
If you find yourself being more irritable or upset than normal, this phrase can help explain your behavior by attributing it to an external factor.
As a response to repeated bad behavior:
When someone is consistently inconsiderate, disrespectful, or makes you feel unheard, this phrase can be a precursor to you finally saying something.
Essentially, you're saying you're normally more restrained or composed, but the current situation is so maddening that it's forcing you to act outside your usual demeanor.

I am not trying to get an emotional reaction from you and I am not trying to make you crazy or annoyed. If I am , please don't read my posts. Please accept my apologies .
Now now calm down Ziljoe I thought I was polite enough

The use of the word "window" at the ceder was speculation by one of the search party I think. The branches on the ceder were broken and mostly used for the fire and by the looks of it , insulation from the snow around the fire. There is mention of some of the broken branches hanging on lower branches.

My apologies I dont usually do this but its driving me nuts.
The spelling of Cedar not Ceder. It is mentioned many many times.

The post above is from you ahabmyth, I respond below. For some reason your posts go missing . So here is my reply.

Hey ,it's ok , I can't spell Bob backwards . I didn't mean to cause you stress. I make errors all the time. I'm not that well educated and I will try harder.

The correct spelling is "I don't". "Don't" is a contraction of "do not," and the apostrophe (') indicates that the letter "o" has been omitted. Using "i dont" without the apostrophe is a misspelling and a form of grammatical error, though it may be seen in very informal contexts.
Why "I don't" is correct
Contraction:
"Don't" is a standard and common contraction for "do not" in the English language.
Missing Letter:
The apostrophe is essential because it shows where the letter "o" has been removed to form the shortened word.
When to use "don't" vs. "do not"
"I don't": is generally used in informal speech and writing.
"I do not": is more formal and is often preferred in formal letters, academic writing, or when you want to emphasize the negation.
Example
Informal: "I don't like this weather".
Formal: "I do not like this weather".

It's or it's?

The phrase "My apologies, I don't usually do this, but it's driving me nuts" is a common way to preface a strong emotional reaction or a request for action, indicating you're not typically prone to such strong feelings or behavior but feel compelled by a particular situation or person. The "driving me nuts" part highlights intense frustration or distress, while the apology acknowledges you may be overstepping boundaries, being overly emotional, or acting out of character due to the situation.
Here's a breakdown of the components:
"My apologies":
This is a formal or polite way to express regret or ask for understanding, acknowledging that your subsequent behavior or strong statement might be unwelcome or unexpected.
"I don't usually do this":
This phrase implies that the situation is unusual or that the intensity of your feelings is atypical for you. It serves as a self-description to explain why you might be acting differently than normal.
"But it's driving me nuts":
This is an idiom that means something is making you extremely frustrated, annoyed, or even a bit crazy. It communicates that the situation is so bothersome or overwhelming that you're losing your cool.
When and why people say this:
To express strong frustration:
It's a way to express that you've reached a breaking point with a persistent problem or a frustrating person.
To preface a confrontation or difficult conversation:
You might use it when you're about to assert yourself or address something that's been bothering you for a while.
To explain unusual emotional responses:
If you find yourself being more irritable or upset than normal, this phrase can help explain your behavior by attributing it to an external factor.
As a response to repeated bad behavior:
When someone is consistently inconsiderate, disrespectful, or makes you feel unheard, this phrase can be a precursor to you finally saying something.
Essentially, you're saying you're normally more restrained or composed, but the current situation is so maddening that it's forcing you to act outside your usual demeanor.

I am not trying to get an emotional reaction from you and I am not trying to make you crazy or annoyed. If I am , please don't read my posts. Please accept my apologies .
 
Now now calm down Ziljoe. You should realise that when you are typing on a computer that peoples demeanor are not shown. The only reason I made you aware of this spelling is because its just about the most likely used word in the forum, and believe me sooner or later someone would pick this up and respond. It just happened to be me. All is good we've seen the wood.

Oh and by the way ,I am deleting my messages for the following reasons 1. They are old and maybe not responded to. 2. I believe it cleans up specific pages and is easier to jump to feedback that interests me. 3. I've changed my mind.

Can I be impertinent and ask what end of the country do you come from. I am from Morecambe a joke in itself.

ahabmyth, you state , "You should realise that when you are typing on a computer that peoples demeanor are not shown." Yet, you state before that, " Now now calm down Ziljoe" from reading my typing on a computer .....
My spelling of the word ceder obviously annoyed you , as you say" My apologies I dont[/u] ( don't)usually do this but its ( it's )driving me nuts.
The spelling of Cedar not Ceder. It is mentioned many many times."


Now....last night , you had a rant at a number of individual posts , each to their own but deleted by you . It is quite ironic that a person that can't ( your version "cant", its, ) spell highlights another person's spelling. It would seem you get annoyed at other people but don't see your own flaws , then deflect and gaslight by saying , now , now , calm down when it was you that was annoyed?.

You can be as rude as you like but I don't come from a part of the country that uses the word ripe instead of minging .

Can't have a flare from unless from a helicopter? Meh....


 

[ahabmyth]

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[Axelrod]

                                                                 Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone                                                          [/u]

You also operate with phrases from the Bible.

Although the Jewish religion and the mission of the preacher irritate you, this is the only explanation I see.
I am not a believer and I am not a preacher, but I observe a certain pattern here.
We are forced to turn to the developments of the Holy Scripture, as did primitive people, who couldn't explain more.

[Ziljoe]

                                                                 Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone                                                          [/u]

You also operate with phrases from the Bible.

Although the Jewish religion and the mission of the preacher irritate you, this is the only explanation I see.
I am not a believer and I am not a preacher, but I observe a certain pattern here.
We are forced to turn to the developments of the Holy Scripture, as did primitive people, who couldn't explain more.

That is not my quote axelrod , it is from ahabmyth who is having difficulty from copying and pasting.

[Ziljoe]

The use of the word "window" at the ceder was speculation by one of the search party I think. The branches on the ceder were broken and mostly used for the fire and by the looks of it , insulation from the snow around the fire. There is mention of some of the broken branches hanging on lower branches.

My apologies I dont usually do this but its driving me nuts.
The spelling of Cedar not Ceder. It is mentioned many many times.

The post above is from you ahabmyth, I respond below. For some reason your posts go missing . So here is my reply.

Hey ,it's ok , I can't spell Bob backwards . I didn't mean to cause you stress. I make errors all the time. I'm not that well educated and I will try harder.

The correct spelling is "I don't". "Don't" is a contraction of "do not," and the apostrophe (') indicates that the letter "o" has been omitted. Using "i dont" without the apostrophe is a misspelling and a form of grammatical error, though it may be seen in very informal contexts.
Why "I don't" is correct
Contraction:
"Don't" is a standard and common contraction for "do not" in the English language.
Missing Letter:
The apostrophe is essential because it shows where the letter "o" has been removed to form the shortened word.
When to use "don't" vs. "do not"
"I don't": is generally used in informal speech and writing.
"I do not": is more formal and is often preferred in formal letters, academic writing, or when you want to emphasize the negation.
Example
Informal: "I don't like this weather".
Formal: "I do not like this weather".

It's or it's?

The phrase "My apologies, I don't usually do this, but it's driving me nuts" is a common way to preface a strong emotional reaction or a request for action, indicating you're not typically prone to such strong feelings or behavior but feel compelled by a particular situation or person. The "driving me nuts" part highlights intense frustration or distress, while the apology acknowledges you may be overstepping boundaries, being overly emotional, or acting out of character due to the situation.
Here's a breakdown of the components:
"My apologies":
This is a formal or polite way to express regret or ask for understanding, acknowledging that your subsequent behavior or strong statement might be unwelcome or unexpected.
"I don't usually do this":
This phrase implies that the situation is unusual or that the intensity of your feelings is atypical for you. It serves as a self-description to explain why you might be acting differently than normal.
"But it's driving me nuts":
This is an idiom that means something is making you extremely frustrated, annoyed, or even a bit crazy. It communicates that the situation is so bothersome or overwhelming that you're losing your cool.
When and why people say this:
To express strong frustration:
It's a way to express that you've reached a breaking point with a persistent problem or a frustrating person.
To preface a confrontation or difficult conversation:
You might use it when you're about to assert yourself or address something that's been bothering you for a while.
To explain unusual emotional responses:
If you find yourself being more irritable or upset than normal, this phrase can help explain your behavior by attributing it to an external factor.
As a response to repeated bad behavior:
When someone is consistently inconsiderate, disrespectful, or makes you feel unheard, this phrase can be a precursor to you finally saying something.
Essentially, you're saying you're normally more restrained or composed, but the current situation is so maddening that it's forcing you to act outside your usual demeanor.

I am not trying to get an emotional reaction from you and I am not trying to make you crazy or annoyed. If I am , please don't read my posts. Please accept my apologies .
Now now calm down Ziljoe I thought I was polite enough

The use of the word "window" at the ceder was speculation by one of the search party I think. The branches on the ceder were broken and mostly used for the fire and by the looks of it , insulation from the snow around the fire. There is mention of some of the broken branches hanging on lower branches.

My apologies I dont usually do this but its driving me nuts.
The spelling of Cedar not Ceder. It is mentioned many many times.

The post above is from you ahabmyth, I respond below. For some reason your posts go missing . So here is my reply.

Hey ,it's ok , I can't spell Bob backwards . I didn't mean to cause you stress. I make errors all the time. I'm not that well educated and I will try harder.

The correct spelling is "I don't". "Don't" is a contraction of "do not," and the apostrophe (') indicates that the letter "o" has been omitted. Using "i dont" without the apostrophe is a misspelling and a form of grammatical error, though it may be seen in very informal contexts.
Why "I don't" is correct
Contraction:
"Don't" is a standard and common contraction for "do not" in the English language.
Missing Letter:
The apostrophe is essential because it shows where the letter "o" has been removed to form the shortened word.
When to use "don't" vs. "do not"
"I don't": is generally used in informal speech and writing.
"I do not": is more formal and is often preferred in formal letters, academic writing, or when you want to emphasize the negation.
Example
Informal: "I don't like this weather".
Formal: "I do not like this weather".

It's or it's?

The phrase "My apologies, I don't usually do this, but it's driving me nuts" is a common way to preface a strong emotional reaction or a request for action, indicating you're not typically prone to such strong feelings or behavior but feel compelled by a particular situation or person. The "driving me nuts" part highlights intense frustration or distress, while the apology acknowledges you may be overstepping boundaries, being overly emotional, or acting out of character due to the situation.
Here's a breakdown of the components:
"My apologies":
This is a formal or polite way to express regret or ask for understanding, acknowledging that your subsequent behavior or strong statement might be unwelcome or unexpected.
"I don't usually do this":
This phrase implies that the situation is unusual or that the intensity of your feelings is atypical for you. It serves as a self-description to explain why you might be acting differently than normal.
"But it's driving me nuts":
This is an idiom that means something is making you extremely frustrated, annoyed, or even a bit crazy. It communicates that the situation is so bothersome or overwhelming that you're losing your cool.
When and why people say this:
To express strong frustration:
It's a way to express that you've reached a breaking point with a persistent problem or a frustrating person.
To preface a confrontation or difficult conversation:
You might use it when you're about to assert yourself or address something that's been bothering you for a while.
To explain unusual emotional responses:
If you find yourself being more irritable or upset than normal, this phrase can help explain your behavior by attributing it to an external factor.
As a response to repeated bad behavior:
When someone is consistently inconsiderate, disrespectful, or makes you feel unheard, this phrase can be a precursor to you finally saying something.
Essentially, you're saying you're normally more restrained or composed, but the current situation is so maddening that it's forcing you to act outside your usual demeanor.

I am not trying to get an emotional reaction from you and I am not trying to make you crazy or annoyed. If I am , please don't read my posts. Please accept my apologies .
 
Now now calm down Ziljoe. You should realise that when you are typing on a computer that peoples demeanor are not shown. The only reason I made you aware of this spelling is because its just about the most likely used word in the forum, and believe me sooner or later someone would pick this up and respond. It just happened to be me. All is good we've seen the wood.

Oh and by the way ,I am deleting my messages for the following reasons 1. They are old and maybe not responded to. 2. I believe it cleans up specific pages and is easier to jump to feedback that interests me. 3. I've changed my mind.

Can I be impertinent and ask what end of the country do you come from. I am from Morecambe a joke in itself.

ahabmyth, you state , "You should realise that when you are typing on a computer that peoples demeanor are not shown." Yet, you state before that, " Now now calm down Ziljoe" from reading my typing on a computer .....
My spelling of the word ceder obviously annoyed you , as you say" My apologies I dont[/u[/b]] ( don't)usually do this but its ( it's )driving me nuts.
The spelling of Cedar not Ceder. It is mentioned many many times."


Now....last night , you had a rant at a number of individual posts , each to their own but deleted by you . It is quite ironic that a person that can't ( your version "cant", its, ) spell highlights another person's spelling. It would seem you get annoyed at other people but don't see your own flaws , then deflect and gaslight by saying , now , now , calm down when it was you that was annoyed?.

You can be as rude as you like but I don't come from a part of the country that uses the word ripe instead of minging .

Can't have a flare from unless from a helicopter? Meh....

Poor Ziljoe.Dont do it ahab , no stop it ,get your hand off that keyboard. If you do there no minging for tea. Thats better now I'll get you a nice drink of ceder. aha this is what you are talking about. Something has to drop the flares and helicopters and aircraft are very noisy and a group if in fear could scatter easily. So sorry what is the problem with flares being dropped (apart from them being usless.)

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Ahabmyth, when you go to hit the quote button, make sure you scroll all the way to the bottom of the comment box that pops up. You're adding your comments prematurely. I did it once myself since the switchover. It doesn't automatically put you at the end of someone's quote, in other words. You can actually go back and edit it if you want, so people know what you're trying to say. I'm having trouble following what you're saying. 

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[Ziljoe]

Ahabmyth, when you go to hit the quote button, make sure you scroll all the way to the bottom of the comment box that pops up. You're adding your comments prematurely. I did it once myself since the switchover. It doesn't automatically put you at the end of someone's quote, in other words. You can actually go back and edit it if you want, so people know what you're trying to say. I'm having trouble following what you're saying. 

Can I quote you on that. Ok thanks for the reply , many people let these things roll by so you keep on making mistakes which dosnt help. Thinks this SMF programme has a lot to be desired but hey when in Rome. Its a good /reasonable job ,the admin/ moderator are usually very quick so cant complain there. Trying to remember what I wrote 5mins ago (my ) internet connection just dropped off again. LOL. Thanks once again OJ if I drop anything else anytime give me a hoy I wasnt exactly brought up with word processors so WYSIWYG.
Will go back now to the wrath from my previous posts.  Cheers.
 
Just reminded myself .I have been trying to "clean" up my posts by going back to specific ones and either deleting them or just wiping parts out and starting or adding to them, maybe shouldnt do this but I hate waiting for page by page of what I may think of as rubbish ,scrolling until I get to the page I want to see what rubbish "I" have written. It may have been yourself who told me when trying to delete that you need to remove everything and add a full stop then save as the only way. if this has been done deliberately then ok ( I dont like it ) but it does have its merits MMmmm. I'm really finished this time.

Doesn't v dosnt ... And wasnt.

The correct spelling is doesn't, which is a contraction of "does not" and is used with third-person singular subjects like "he," "she," and "it". "Don't" is the contraction of "do not" and is used with "I," "you," "we," and "they".

I'm going to let this go now. We could hack each other to death on spelling and grammar.

I think it would be good for the forum ,if you and I stuck to the topics in the threads . This is an olive branch, please think of others . I am as guilty as you of being pedantic.

Upwards and onwards , sometimes Side ways if necessary.

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You also operate with phrases from the Bible.



Although the Jewish religion and the mission of the preacher irritate you, this is the only explanation I see.
I am not a believer and I am not a preacher, but I observe a certain pattern here.
We are forced to turn to the developments of the Holy Scripture, as did primitive people, who couldn't explain more.

Ha Ha Ha -- Love it Axelrod.

Axlelrod is replying to you  Ahabmyth.

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[Falcon73]

Wow this conversation pulled far away from the initial posting.

[Ziljoe]

Wow this conversation pulled far away from the initial posting.

I apologise ,please continue.

[Falcon73]

No need to apologize.