ENGLISH TRANSCRIPT
Malakhov's New TV Show. Part 2
((I'll say right away that no new film was found! For the sake of sensation, they showed already known film and stills against a natural backdrop. But experts have determined that some of the photos on Lozva were taken not on the day of Yudin's farewell (January 28th), but on the morning of January 29th, since the Dyatlov group spent the night in front of Mount Khoy-Ekva.))
Andrey [MALAKHOV] in the second part, titled Diyatlov Pass. What the secret services kept silent about for 66 years? (October 7, 2025):
[–] Good evening! For 66 years now, researchers from all over the world have been trying to understand what happened to Igor Dyatlov's group of hikers in February 1959.
Today, our sensational investigation continues!
[KOROTAYEV] (in 1996): So, in 1959, I was working as an investigator for the Ivdel prosecutor's office. What alarmed me was what was around the morgue? No one was allowed into the morgue. So, KGB officers were guarding the morgue. The experts were Vozrozhdenny and Ganz.
[–] In the previous issue, we showed you unique archival film taken by Georgy Krivonischenko before his death. It was his body that was first found, next to the famous cedar.
[KOSKIN] (in 2025): Making a two-meter incision in an emergency with nine people in a tent is unrealistic! This is film, frame number 10. A lab examination will determine whether there are any strangers or objects there.
[–] We've submitted this photo for examination, and today the forensic experts will give their verdict on what's on this historic archival film. Also today, there will be new evidence and new archival footage. And the main question: is it true that the Dyatlov group's bodies were washed, changed, and returned to the mountain?
So, here we go. Today, we're joined by a researcher from Bulgaria, Teodora Hadzhiyskaya. She's a recognized expert and has been studying this topic. How many years have passed?
[TEODORA]: Good evening! 13 years old.
[–] And tell me, what inspired you, a person who lives in Bulgaria, to learn the story of Dyatlov Pass?
[THEODORA]: When I first heard about it, I wasn't in Bulgaria. I'm a traveler and was on a volcano in Indonesia.
And the truck was speeding us… the transmission and brakes failed… So I was in a fatal accident that left me, like Lyuda Dubinina, with broken ribs and a massive brain hemorrhage, and a broken arm at the elbow. And when they took me to the hospital, I was already under anesthesia…
Someone said to me: "Are you from Dyatlov Pass?"
I didn't know anything about it, I hadn't heard…
[–] So you, being in intensive care with the same fractures, participant Dubinina, heard this story for the first time, and it intrigued you. How are you feeling? You look great. Thank God, it's all behind us now!
[THEODORA]: Thank you! I'm a medical miracle. But I heard the word "Dyatlov," and then I started trying to figure out what happened there. And it was so hard to figure out how and what happened there…
Information about the pass, about the Dyatlov Pass incident and about the Dyatlov group, started to accumulate. And I uploaded it all to the website DyatlovPass.com and translated it into English. And the most valuable thing is that I have all the sources, the entire archive, everything I got my hands on, I saved and accumulated on the website.
And then I recovered and started traveling. And I saw that the website had a lot of traffic, that it was useful. I'm still working on it.
[–] And so today we're discussing: there's an avalanche theory, there's the Mansi theory, there's a man-made disaster theory. What are you leaning toward?
[THEODORA]: I lived for 10 years without a theory. Then I started looking into the Dyatlov group's injuries, and I decided it could have been a fallen tree.
I went on subsequent expeditions—and I found that tree! I analyzed it and had it examined.
I proved that I found a tree that fell in February 1959. It was incredible! And then I have more proof. I found cream cans with a professional metal detector, from under that fallen tree…
(Noise and excitement in the audience).
[–] In the last program, we showed the shell casings we found. They were also from 1959. Experts said that these military shell casings could have been used for hunting, but the military could also have used them. And you found this can in the same place. We can see it now. Is this your find?
[THEODORA]: Yes, it was my find. And they told me then that I was lucky, like a newbie or a fool. And I did the math. There's this stamping on the can. So I knew where it was made. This cream can, it's from the Lyubinsky Milk Canning Plant (in the Omsk region – ed.)
And we met, the directors and all the bosses. And they explained to me that in those years, only cream was sold in tourist shops. And all the condensed milk the searchers had was in the State Reserve in large cans. We studied this; I know all the Russian standards for metal cans.
(Applause in the audience).
The most important thing is that I only found one can, it was 30 cm deep in the ground. And that was where the bodies were found. So no one else but Dyatlov's group could have left it there.
I also found another fallen birch tree under the fallen cedar. And I think, like dominoes, one tree fell next to the other, like a chain. I found the perfect spot for their camp near the cedar. In 2016, another expedition was doing winter research, and they set up their camp exactly there. I believe and declare that Dyatlov's last camp was there too!
[–] Not on the mountain, of course. Because any normal person who's been there understands that the wind is blowing through, it's freezing… But down below, 200-300 meters down, it's cozy, where that cedar is.
[TEODORA]: The question is—what happened after that?
[–] Who moved the tent?
[TEODORA]: And why was it in a different place?
[–] But we have access to part of the interrogation of the sister of the deceased hiker, Alexander Kolevatov. On April 14, 1959, his sister, Rimma Sergeevna [KOLEVATOVA], couldn't contain her outrage. Let's take a look.
/*Sheet 271*/The outrage is caused by the funeral arrangements. Each of the parents was summoned separately, either to the regional party committee or to the polytechnic institute, and they were told to bury the dead in Ivdel.
Personally, we, the Kolevatovs, Slobodins, and Dubinins, immediately and categorically protested the idea of burying them in a mass grave. What kind of conspiracy is this? Why did we have to endure so many ordeals and even go to the regional party committee secretary, Comrade Kuroedov, to secure burial in our native Sverdlovsk?
Why are the boys' hands and faces so dark-brown? Why did they flee the tent in panic? And how can one explain the fact that the four people who were at the fire and, by all accounts, remained alive, made no attempt to return to the tent?
A group of tourists from the Pedagogical Institute, who were nearby on Mount Chistop at the time, saw some fireballs in the area of Mount Otorten. What was their origin? Could they have caused the death of the group of boys? After all, the group consisted of hardy and seasoned people. This was Dyatlov's third time in these parts. Lyuda Dubinina herself led a group up Mount Chistop in the winter of 1958, while Kolevatov, Dubinina, and Doroshenko were on hikes in the Sayan Mountains. Only a raging snowstorm couldn't have saved them from dying!
[–] Rimma Kolevatova's daughter, the niece of the deceased Alexander, is on the line with us today. Elena, good evening! Well, you hear that we're discussing this tragedy again today, 66 years later. Let's say your uncle had a very good education.
ELENA: Good afternoon, Andrey! Hello, studio! Yes, he had a good education. After graduating from technical school, he was assigned to work in Moscow as a good student.
[–] But even in Moscow, he was in a closed institution, so to speak. We're talking about how many of the Dyatlov group had access to certain information. Most likely, it was some kind of defense industry. But in your family—what version has been floating around all these years? What is it? A man-made disaster or an actual avalanche that came down and scattered and buried them all?
ELENA: I wouldn't say that's a version. That was the only thing that actually happened. It was a man-made disaster. And the other versions—those were invented later.
[–] Now we see how Mom was indignant and said that their skin was some kind of brown.
ELENA: Yes, dark brown.
[–] And the boys ran naked from the tent, right? Many more were naked, I should say, or ran out in what they were sleeping in.
Alexey Alexandrovich, let's say you have another exclusive. Zina Kolmogorova's diary. Many say she was also a spy, because there are some hieroglyphs in the diary, and many believe that these are, let's say, some kind of encryption.
[KOSKIN]: These hieroglyphs are not encryption. They are signs left by the Mansi on the trees. They (the Dyatlov group) were walking along a Mansi trail. The Mansi have repeatedly deciphered this for us. These are ordinary everyday messages, like a hunter from such-and-such a family recently passed by with two deer…
I remember myself, the first time I hunted there. We were walking, this was back in Soviet times, in the 1980s, along this trail. There was a similar interest in the Mansi's words. We also wrote them down, redrawing all these hieroglyphs. It was some kind of fantasy for us city dwellers. It was something so incredible.
[–] Well, we can see it on the screen now. Look, the date is October 5, 1958. Why 1958 if we're talking about 1959?
[ARKHIPOV]: Andrei Nikolaevich! These markings in this place are a traditional Mansi ornament. They could have successfully hunted bears and moose here. This is where they applied their Mansi family symbol. Everything here is quite simple!
[–] Elena, are you still with us? Tell me, according to the version we know, your uncle wasn't really keen on going on this hike?
ELENA: His sisters and mother asked him to spend his last vacation with them, and he was very much inclined to do so. But after his assignment, he wouldn't have been able to go on the hike. This was his last chance to go on a hike. So he decided to go (on this hike).
[–] I see. Thank you for being with us. And here's what Vladimir Mikhailovich Askinadzi, Master of Sports in Tourism of the USSR, told us. Thanks to him, Dubinina and Zolotaryov's bodies were found.
[ASKINADZI]: And only the Kurikov trackers noticed that we needed to dig here. The elder Stepan Kurikov, besides being a hunter, was a shaman, but he didn't demonstrate it to us. Perhaps he was practicing shamanism somewhere off to the side. Perhaps the result of his shamanism prompted him to do this.
Thanks to Kurikov, we found the flooring by following small branches leading down. We dug a hole, and there were things in the four corners. In the morning, we found the things, and after lunch, we found the bodies. And also by chance! The soldiers went to rest, but I couldn't seem to rest, and that was it! Some kind of inexplicable anxiety. I went. I had only one probe, an emergency one, which I carried and didn't give to anyone. That's how I found Dubinina. I poked the hook, turned it…
KSENIA (editor): They told me over the phone, and even showed me this photograph, that Semyon Zolotaryov (or rather, his body) had a notebook in his hands. Or was it actually slipped to him?
[ASKINADZI]: I only saw the finish line when Ortyukov took this notebook. He bent down and snatched it. I was standing a meter behind him, I could only see over his shoulder. And the notebook was blank, nothing written in it. I saw it with my own eyes. He leafed through it, and there was nothing there.
In Sverdlovsk, on the trams, the conversation was about the Dyatlov group. In lines, the conversation was about Dyatlov. People were always talking among themselves, but there was no real information. Here's an example, I always give it.
When the first five were buried, Krivonischenko's parents invited those who helped dig the grave to their home. There was a farewell table there. And the father asks: "Tell me, did your son save his life?" What happened? He's a real hero!
Everyone believed that the rocket or something was in the name of our homeland. We sang Pakhmutova's songs: "If only I had my own country, I'd have no other worries!"
[–] I want to ask you, Teodora. How do you think Zolotaryov ended up there? He's older than the others, after all. Who is he, in your opinion?
[TEODORA]: My theory is that they were all normal tourists who wanted to go to Otorten, and they simply died in a very strange, emergency incident. This tree fell near their tent during their usual overnight stay.
[–] A tree just falls on a tent?
[TEODORA]: That's the first part. And the second, someone was doing something there and wanted to prevent anyone from continuing to search around the site of the incident. Maybe they were geologists. Maybe something fell from the sky. I think that's why it's so difficult to solve this mystery: someone moved the bodies and the tents, but didn't kill them.
[–] They were simply covering their tracks.
[TEODORA]: Yes, yes, yes.
[ARKHIPOV]: But the state deceived itself back then. Dear Teodora, it's too complicated! There are no traces of outsiders there. The tent was dismantled by representatives of the UPI tourism section. It was precisely according to the laws of this tourism section, as Maslennikov taught them, that this tent was erected. How could some military personnel know these tourist secrets?
And just imagine, this must be a literal theatrical performance! I am categorically against such outrageous conspiracy theories.
[–] Since we're talking about Maslennikov, it was he who sent the Dyatlov group. Many thought Maslennikov's diary was lost. But we found it. Maslennikov's diary. Here's what he writes…
KARELIN: I have a diary that Maslennikov kept at the search site. Here's an interesting detail. Maslennikov wrote that on February 27th they discovered bodies. These were Krivonischenko, Dyatlov, Kolmogorova, and Zolotaryov… (confused with Doroshenko – ed.)
And here's the spot where they found the four (in the stream, in May – ed.). There were cut fir trees there. A trouser leg was found near them.
Maslennikov blamed the hurricane for the deaths. But he only suggested this on the very first day of the search. After that, he abandoned the idea.
There were tracks from a felt boot, a rounded track. The second track was from a heeled boot, and the third track was from a nearly bare foot. I myself saw all three of these types of tracks. But the fact that the tracks are icy is one of the most powerful factors that suggests it was a man-made impact. And on February 17th, I saw the trail of some kind of flying object. And Maslennikov mentioned in his diary that someone told him that someone somewhere saw it on February 1st. Such an ambiguous reference.
[–] Valery Kiselyov is with us today. What do you say, listening to us?
[KISELEV] (FSB veteran): The first thing that comes to my mind is these thoughts. Look at the changes in the case file. Somewhere, something has been erased, there are changes in handwriting, pages are missing. There are testimonies from people quite far removed from these events, especially the most recent testimonies. And it turns out that the case file has practically been replaced.
[–] Let's take a short commercial now. Excuse me! Right after that, the results of our photo analysis. Let me remind you that the archival film waited 66 years to be developed. We'll find out and see the last footage from the pass.
(Commercial break).
Good evening again! Soon we'll announce the results of the examination of the archival film that has kept the secrets of Dyatlov Pass since 1959. Let me remind you that today we have the chance to see these photographs. But first, Igor Dyatlov's friend, Alexei Budrin, who in the previous program already put forward the theory that Zolotaryov was a secret service agent and was assigned to this group two days before the expedition to keep an eye on them. Here's what he adds to this story. Attention!
[BUDRIN]: Some circumstances surrounding the Dyatlov group may still be classified. Because some believe it's too early to reveal them, that such disclosure would cause some kind of damage.
Yuri Lugovtsov is a major in the Interior Troops. He has begun his own professional journalistic investigation. And it's clear he was communicating with a member of the organization that was testing the glowing balls. He's talking about a plasma formation similar to spherical magnesium.
Krivonischenko was a construction worker by trade, and he was assigned to Chelyabinsk-40. But when a local spy contacted him and said, "It would be good if you went and observed the glowing balls," they passed the information on to me. He reported to his instructors, and they sanctioned the expedition. He was a source of information the intelligence services hoped to track.
According to Lugovtsov, Zolotaryov was sent by the intelligence services to this group; he provided cover. What was planned next, I don't know… It was some kind of plan or operation that was interrupted by a misunderstanding. But I think they wanted to track the flow of this information, so to speak, through the network surrounding this agent.
It's quite possible that these tests of some kind of plasma formations are still a secret. And the fact that Dyatlov's group was sent for this purpose could also be classified…
[–] Alexey Koskin is with us today. I'd like to discuss with you the photographs of the bodies of Semyon Zolotaryov and Alexander Kolevatov. Please note that there was nothing on their heads when they were discovered! And let's pay attention to the clothing.
[KOSKIN]: Look, these are the bodies ready for transport. There are skis with crossbars there to carry them up to the pass (to the helicopter). In the photo at the top is Alexander Kolevatov, at the bottom is Zolotaryov. There are several interesting points here. The first point has long been known, but there is no answer to it. Everyone can see the camera on Zolotaryov's chest. But there is not a single mention of this camera in the existing criminal case.
[–] So, they took it. The camera disappears. But were there any photographs in it?
[KOSKIN]: That is not known, at least not to the general public. And we see that Zolotaryov was without a hat. There's a ushanka hat lying next to him, but it's lying next to him. And here's what the inspection report says:
On his head is a black leather ushanka hat trimmed with black fur. A red knitted wool sports cap with three light stripes. And a fur vest lined with black sheepskin (meaning it's very worn). A brown flannel sports jacket with buttons.
[KOSKIN]: I'd also like to emphasize that there's another document, a crime scene inspection report on the discovery of the bodies.
There's also a photograph of the bodies in the stream. It clearly shows Kolevatov and Zolotaryov lying without hats. Zolotaryov was in extremely poor condition when he was discovered. It says that his hair and scalp peeled off when touched.
He was found without a hat on May 6th. And on May 9th, when the autopsy was performed in the morgue, he was found wearing two hats!
How this happened is simply unbelievable to me! I don't understand it and I suggest everyone discuss it.
[ARKHIPOV]: And the red cap is Lyuda Dubinina's cap. Okay, let me clarify a bit.
[KOSKIN]: There's also a report on the completion of the criminal case, and it states that Zolotaryov was wearing Lyuda Dubinina's cap. The examination report also states that he was wearing Lyuda Dubinina's faux-fur sports jacket. But the autopsy report states that he was wearing a fur vest lined with black sheepskin!
That vest isn't a faux-fur vest, but a sheepskin vest. In the photo, we don't see a faux-fur-lined sports jacket or a vest!
[–] And here's what Vladimir Mikhailovich Askinadzi told our editor-in-chief, Ksenia Zotina.
KSENIA: Vladimir Mikhailovich! Let's get this straight and lift the veil of mystery surrounding the tourists' deaths. Can you tell us what really happened to them? And was that where they died initially?
[ASKINADZI]: Yes, there's a theory that they died elsewhere. So, Solter provided valuable information. She was the nurse who first received the bodies! And not just five at once—then a couple more (that's seven). And then she says, "And two more in dirty clothes." She undressed them, washed them, washed all their clothes, then dressed them again. They took five of them somewhere at once.
KSENIYA: So, they found the tourists' bodies, brought them to the morgue, undressed them, washed them, and then took them back to the scene of their deaths.
[ASKINADZI]: Yes, they died somewhere else, somewhere very far away. They died somewhere. Then they were found. They were in the mud. There was tons of snow there—nowhere for mud to come from. I'll be damned! So, they found them somewhere, packed them up with the mud, and brought them to Ivdel…
KSENIYA: But was a nurse allowed to do that? It's evidence! They bring you the bodies of the dead. How can you touch them? How can you undress them, wash them, do laundry? That's forbidden!
[ASKINADZI]: So, she was assigned to do it. They forced her.
KSENIYA: And the injuries? Where did those injuries come from? You understand, right?
[ASKINADZI]: Ask me something easier!
KSENIYA: I have one question for you. Let's get back to the mud. The guys were covered in mud. Where in that area could there be mud?
[ASKINADZI]: Some thawed patch. It's February, but we can assume the ground has thawed.
KSENIYA: There's no mud where they were found, snow. So, they must have found that mud somewhere! They must have found it somewhere.
[ASKINADZI]: Yes, yes, yes. That's where they were found, half-dead bodies or nothing at all. That's where they went! The question is, why did they go? Yes, they were on a top-level expedition, a first ascent where no one had gone before. Dyatlov said, when Rempel told him about the forest, that it was difficult there.
Dyatlov says: "And that's why we're going!"
KSENIYA: Let's analyze it together… Where is that place? Where?
[ASKINADZI]: I won't tell.
KSENIYA: Well, please tell me, please! We'll go there together. I'll go with you!
[ASKINADZI] (laughs): In the same cell, if they put us in jail.
KSENIYA: Well, what else can we do? And we won't be bored, on the other hand.
[ASKINADZI]: Then learn to play preference. Leave me alone with this question! It's the only thing I know, but I can't prove it. No one will believe me. Well, turn off the recording! I'll tell you everything now. Turn off the recording!
[–] Let me remind you, he's 88 years old. What a mind, what a sense of humor! Also, Lyudmila Komova, Semyon Zolotaryov's stepdaughter, still doesn't believe the group's death was accidental. She's also here today. She's 77.
[KOMOVA]: Andrey, hello! Can I say a word?
[–] Of course!
[KOMOVA]: I want to express my gratitude to your team and to you personally, for everyone's been so caring and compassionate about my case.
And the more people I interact with, the more hope I have that maybe a miracle will happen. I thought all was lost. But maybe I'll meet my brother someday, you know? So thank you all so much!
[–] But let's remember about your brother. You've been searching your whole life for your brother Sasha, who was taken away by Semyon Zolotaryov's mother.
[KOMOVA]: Not her. I think he did it himself.
[–] But you also think he was a complex person?
[KOMOVA]: Do you realize how many people study him? Yes! How many people? And they all come to the same conclusion: that he was an extraordinary individual, right? That this man is not just a man, but some kind of… In my opinion, he's a villain, you understand?
[–] But do you believe that this is his grave, that he is buried there?
[KOMOVA]: You know, I can't even say… But judging by the facts that people are discovering. His tattoos, and other things… It's not him! He had no tattoos, and he didn't have a gold tooth, do you understand?
[–] That corpse didn't have gold crowns, but completely different teeth. Am I right?
[KOSKIN]: Yes! That corpse we're talking about (and who put two hats on himself in three days) had false teeth made of white metal, according to the examination report. There. But after those hats appeared on him, it's unclear what to believe at all. Because it's obvious they were removed. For what purpose, it's unclear. Either to switch bodies, or for some other reason. I don't know…
[–] Is there any theory that they could have been switched at all? These are different corpses, the corpses of homeless people. And they were given new documents, and they started working. If they were all physicists, as we know, they were secret, super-secret agents, like James Bond.
[KISELYOV] (special forces veteran): I want to say that Andrey Malakhov's program is an amazing component, connected to the miracles you perform here. I wouldn't be surprised if Semyon Zolotaryov suddenly walked into the studio right now, and you presented him for everyone to see. Because in reality, we're talking about things that are, so to speak, just our speculation. Right? You agree with that, right? Except for this one respected person who says he examined the documents. You can see that this criminal case is rigged. It's a fabricated case. And even the Bulgarians have found out how this could have happened. And what happened there? The security services will respond.
[–] Well, Vladimir Mikhailovich Askinadzi, 88 years old, he's here today. He came to our program. Let's invite him!
[TEODORA]: Vladimir Mikhailovich, it's been my dream to meet you! I'm so glad. Hello!
[ASKINADZI]: We've met several times already.
[–] Teodora! You rushed to me like I was my own father. Was that your dream?
[TEODORA]: Yes! It was my dream to meet Vladimir Mikhailovich. Thank you very much for coming to see us.
[–] But you told our editors that Yudin, who told everyone he was sick and then suddenly decided to return, wasn't that ill after all.
[ASKINADZI]: We've all experienced this, some with sciatica, some with spine problems, because backpackers' spines get tired… Judging by the photos we found, he wasn't particularly suffering from his illness there; he was lifting Zina. You have to bend over to lift her. Zina wasn't 5 kg, she was fine, up to 80 kg with her backpack. And afterward, when he returned to the village, he never got sick again. He died in 2013. We saw him in 2011. Well, he's a normal guy.
[–] Do you suspect he knew something?
[ASKINADZI]: It's hard to say, because sometimes you just have intuition, and some kind of inexplicable anxiety. He must have sensed something.
[–] What are you thinking? What happened? Or are you still unable to say?
[ASKINADZI]: I still can't. I still can't, because there are no facts.
[–] But the Bulgarian researchers believe the tree fell next to the cedar (on the tent).
[ASKINADZI]: I agree! I agree with her version.
[TEODORA]: Well, wait. The tree fell, that's a fact. But I still can't prove that it killed them, that it caused these injuries to Thibeaux, Lyuda, and Zolotaryov. But there's plenty of evidence closer to the cedar. That can, that second tree. And there are other branches that were broken around there, big ones. Something happened there… And that's my goal for the next expedition, to find. A pile of cans or something left over from the camp. Because if Dyatlov's camp was there, there'll be a lot more metal there.
[ASKINADZI]: Our shift was the last. There are traces of an entire camp there under the cedar. It wasn't just the two people whose bodies were found there. Everyone gathered there around the cedar. There were traces of a fire. True, it was a fire that didn't provide any heat; there was rot there, but there are photos. That was the meeting place. Maybe not all nine of us. Kolmogorova was there. I don't know about Dubinina.
[ARKHIPOV]: Yes, she had burnt pants. Everyone was by the fire by the cedar.
[ASKINADZI]: That's why she says something happened and traumatized many of them. Maybe in this area. Maybe it wasn't the tree, maybe it was some other reason, but the group gathered here under the cedar. Andrey! You were there on that expedition. There's a fairly deep stream from the tent to the cedar, then a steep climb up to the cedar. That didn't happen in our time because the stream was filled in. There was a good crust of ice. We walked there without snowshoes. Well, they slipped through without skis.
[–] But someone changed and washed the bodies. We're talking about that here.
[ASKINADZI]: The story that's circulating isn't entirely accurate. It was Yudin who wrote a letter to Nurse Solter when she was still in Ivdel.
[–] That's the nurse who examined them.
[ASKINADZI]: He wrote a letter with some questions, and she responded. He wrote a second letter, and then Navig's interview appeared.
[–] We found the 2008 interview. Pelageya Ivanovna Solter, the nurse to whom the Dyatlov group's bodies were brought, this is what she said.
[NAVIG]: Pelageya Ivanovna! But do you remember what they looked like? What were they like? Or don't you remember?
[SALTER]: We washed them in this… morgue.
[NAVIG]: What did they look like? These were the Dyatlov group.
VIKTOR: That's them. But the thing is, she says they were really dirty.
[NAVIG]: They were found in the stream… In this state. They should have been brought… But there's nothing of this in the criminal case… It's not mentioned.
[SALTER]: Surgeon Prudkov described them. Then we dressed them, put them straight into coffins, and flew them to Sverdlovsk and buried them.
VIKTOR: Listen! But do you know what… Why isn't there a signature on the report? There's no second surgeon? It's a German name, Ganz.
[NAVIG]: Was he there?
VIKTOR: I don't know…
[NAVIG]: Pelageya! Was Ganz there? Did you know such an expert?
VIKTOR: They didn't know. They didn't even know Vozrozhdenny. They prepared this batch and took them away. Where did they take them? Maybe they took them to the city hospital! Maybe they took them somewhere else.
[–] Let's do a short commercial now. Right after it, there will be an examination of archival stills from Georgy Krivonischenko's film. Right after the commercial, we'll find out who he photographed a couple of days before his death.
Good evening again, everyone! The Dyatlov Pass case haunts everyone 66 years later. The last living, legendary searcher for Vladimir Mikhailovich Askinadzi, who was there, claims: "Someone washed the bodies of the Dyatlov group, changed their clothes, and returned them to the pass."
And we are ready to announce the results of the examination of the film that has kept the pass's secrets since 1959. What is your theory? Did Semyon Zolotaryov have ties to the secret services?
[ASKINADZI]: Yes! Research has shown that he was in the special forces during the war. The institute he graduated from in Minsk, the Institute of Physical Education, was geared toward the secret services.
[–] Oleg Matveyev, historian of the secret services, is with us today.
[MATVEYEV]: He didn't serve in any special forces! He served the entire war in a sapper battalion. He didn't suffer a scratch. To his credit, he distinguished himself during the crossing of one of the rivers, managing to restore the bombed-out crossing and leading the effort. He received a medal for this.
He also joined the party. Komsomolskaya Pravda found all his documents in the Ministry of Defense archives. This was after the war. Here's how I assess him. He enrolled in a military engineering school, but he couldn't handle it. He didn't last a year, either because of poor academic performance, or because he himself decided, "I can't do it, I can't handle it…" And he moved to Minsk, to the pedagogical institute, to the special department for front-line soldiers, where the curriculum was simplified, and he chose the profession not of physics or chemistry, but of physical education teacher. This speaks once again to his intellectual level, to his preparation.
[ASKINADZI]: They taught him to shoot, but not how to live.
[MATVEYEV]: And then they let him out, and he works in different places… Here they gave him a dressing down at a party meeting, there they kicked him out… I think this guy was a bit otherworldly, a holdover from his childhood. Look at all the photos. He's fooling around everywhere on this hike.
[ARKHIPOV]: He fit right into the group. Yudin said this, like a knife through butter, as if they'd known him for a long time.
[MATVEYEV]: Yes, I agree with you. It's a character trait, the fact that the young people accepted him as one of their own. And that's normal.
[ASKINADZI]: I've been on over 40 hikes, nine of which were top-level. I'm a master of sports. I'd be wary of taking on someone very old, even if they were a professional.
[MATVEYEV]: However, he is a professional.
[ASKINADZI]: BUT the presence of two leaders in a group is already a disaster! And he probably demonstrated his knowledge, which prevented Igor Dyatlov from making an authoritative decision.
[ARKHIPOV]: That's the point, Yudin answered my question back in 2012. I asked him: "In a difficult hour, in a difficult moment, would Zolotaryov have been the second leader in the group? Well, if he had lived until February 2nd. He died on his birthday, at 38. Yudin told me: "The entire group was devoted to Igor. If Semyon had made any move against Igor Dyatlov's leadership, we would all have sided with Igor." So our second leader is melting away.
[MATVEYEV]: Yes, yes, I completely agree with you.
[–]: Let's go back to our film roll that you provided and show the entire chronology of the developed photos.
So, the first photo shows Nikolai Thibeaux-Brignolle and Semyon Zolotaryov. The second photo: Semyon Zolotaryov in Thibeaux-Brignolle's beret, and Zinaida Kolmogorova. We see that they swapped clothes, as we discussed.
Third photo: Nikolai Thibeaux-Brignolle in Zolotaryov's hat. In the fourth photo: Krivonischenko taking a picture of the forest.
We analyzed this photo in the last program and tried to figure out what was in it—an unidentified object, A stratospheric balloon, or is it a human figure peering out from behind a snowdrift?
And the fifth frame shows a forest and mountains. It looks like a person is emerging from the forest. And the sixth frame is a photograph of the forest. We see ski tracks in the snow, and also in the distance, a figure resembling a human figure. Let's look at the comments we received. So, photographic examination. Attention!
Alexey [INAURI] (forensic expert): We were provided with unique photographs for examination, quite rare ones. These are photographs from Georgy Krivonischenko's developed film. These frames were taken on January 29, 1959—as we understand, just a few days before the well-known events at Dyatlov Pass.
As part of the examination, we first established the absence of signs of editing in the provided photograph.
The photograph is truly original and unique.
We have established a number of interesting circumstances. In particular, a certain object was discovered. It is of interest His figure, which resembles a human silhouette in a bent position. To estimate the size of this object, we used the size of a tree, which is approximately in the same plane as this object, as a basis. The average height of a tree is 12-15 meters. And based on the proportions, we can compare them and say that the dimensions of this object are approximately 1.2-1.5 meters. This is despite the fact that this silhouette is in a bent position. This suggests that it could be a human silhouette.
There is also an object of particular interest near this object. We tried to determine what it could be. Is it some kind of foreign object or a shadow? But after conducting an examination, we can say that it is not a shadow emanating from an object, but some kind of object. Of course, more information is needed to objectively establish the order of those events.
[–] What do you think it could be?
[ASKINADZI]: I think so. I'll take this information to the grave with me.
[–] What do you think?
[MATVEYEV]: This story with this ufologist and this stratospheric balloon, it started with a false premise. Because Degtyarev came forward and said that U-2 aircraft weren't flying then, so the Americans sent a stratospheric balloon. I'm reporting to you that the Americans acquired U-2 aircraft in 1955. And since 1957, they've been successfully exploring the vast expanses of our country at an altitude of 20 kilometers. So, a false premise had already been made, and on that basis, this came about.
[KOSKIN]: Did you see the route of the pilot Powers, whom we shot down?
[MATVEYEV]: I held his file in my hands.
[KOSKIN] (laughs): Yes, wonderful! If we continue, Francis Powers was flying to the Dyatlov Pass. That's all. Period.
[MATVEYEV]: Francis Powers was flying to the Kola Peninsula, to our submarine bases, via Sverdlovsk.
[KOSKIN] He approached Sverdlovsk from the south. If he had gone up…
[MATVEYEV]: He was flying from Pakistan.
[KOSKIN]: I'm not a supporter, but I heard that version.
[MATVEYEV]: It was a standard mission for them, because they knew that our nuclear facilities were located in the Sverdlovsk and Chelyabinsk regions.
[ARKHIPOV]: Colleagues! Continuing with similar versions of KGB involvement, I can say that the Ivdel city archives show that in 1959, Ivdel had a single representative of the regional KGB directorate.
[MATVEYEV]: Correct! In 1960, Shelepin liquidated it, along with 3,500 other district and city offices across the country. He became Chairman of the KGB in December 1958, and he liquidated all unnecessary offices.
[–] Why?
[MATVEYEV]: To optimize work. The first thing he did was liquidate the department in the 4th Directorate, which dealt with ideological counterintelligence, to protect the constitutional order. He's liquidating counterintelligence departments at universities, including UPI. He'll then liquidate the entire KGB department.
[–] That's where we ended up as a result of the Dyatlov Pass photos. Well, friends, we're following the events. If you're suddenly ready to speak up and tell us about what you know, 66 years later, write or call us… You can see the phone number and address.
That's all for today! Take care of yourself and your loved ones!
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