Malakhov (August 4, 2026)
Part 1 is here
https://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=2071Andrey [MALAKHOV] in a new episode of the TV show, the next day. Dyatlov Pass: Where Do Traces of the Past Lead?
(2026-VIII-4):
[–] Good evening everyone! We continue our investigation into the tragedy that has haunted the world for 67 years. New details and facts are constantly emerging in the case of the deaths of nine hikers led by Igor Dyatlov. As a reminder, in the previous program, a friend of investigator Lev Ivanov first revealed the truth that had been hidden for almost 70 years.
It turns out that the hikers' deaths were caused by testing a secret weapon. A fatal accident that remained silent for decades.
Right here in the studio, we conducted an experiment with a tent. The mystery of the strange cut has finally been solved. Many believe the tent couldn't be cut with a razor and scissors, but our experts did it easily.
New sensations lie ahead. Where did Zolotaryov's little son, Sasha, disappear to? Could he have ended up in a foster family, and by whose will? Today we're following his trail to Azerbaijan. What will we find? What clues do the archives and local residents hold?
And also, for the first time on television, new sensational details about the death of the Dyatlov group from Viktor Iosifovich, which will upend everything you knew about that terrible night.
Good evening again! I'd like to invite Semyon Zolotaryov's stepdaughter, Lyudmila Konstantinovna Komova, to our studio. She's been trying to find her missing brother, Alexander, for many years. Hello!
[KOMOVA]: My mother, may she rest in peace… I was so moved when I heard your words. It's simply terrible! She gave birth to three more children, three girls. And when I was already an adult, she told me this: "I wanted a son so much, I wanted to name him Sasha." It was her lifelong tragedy.
And you say: "The financial situation is difficult, she gave him away." Why are you saying that? Why?
[RYBAKOV]: Let me explain.
[–] But according to your mother… You were young, and you only remember the general picture. Your mother said that Zolotaryov picked him up from the nursery.
[KOMOVA]: Of course, of course!
[–] That's according to your mother.
[KOMOVA]: Of course! We went to pick him up from the kindergarten, and they told us, and his mother confirmed it. We discussed it later. His father came and picked him up without any problems. Whether he picked him up rarely or often, I can't say, but he did. Sometimes he took him, so they gave him Sasha without question.
[–] Your father, Konstantin Khromov, your mother's first marriage, right? Then there was Semyon Zolotaryov, who gave birth to Sasha. Then your mother married Ivan, and she had three more children.
Irina Kiselyova (November 25, 1958).
Stella (1960).
Elena Kolyada (July 19, 1969).
[KOMOVA]: Yes, she gave birth to three girls. I have three sisters.
[–] Zolotaryov's relatives once said where Sasha might be?
[KOMOVA]: I've never spoken to them. I don't know them, I have no idea… When we found out he took Sasha, my mother and I went. I don't remember everything, of course, so many years have passed. I remember this fence. I remember the bench we used to sit on, under this house.
Mom was crying and begging, "Give me my son back!"
A woman came out and said, "Stop coming here! We sent Sasha to an orphanage." (humbling in the studio).
[–] But if Sasha is alive, how old would he be today?
[KOMOVA]: About seventy.
[ORLOVA] (psychologist): Can you tell me, in your opinion, how Sasha disappeared? What's your theory?
[KOMOVA]: He took him – and that's it!
[ORLOVA]: So, he just went and stole him?
[KOMOVA]: Yes, he stole him.
[ORLOVA]: And no one was looking for him at the time?
[KOMOVA]: He's his father, he didn't steal him.
[ORLOVA]: But she would have gone and started looking…
[KOMOVA]: Maybe she did try to look. First of all, my mother didn't tell me everything. I was a child, you see? When I was already a grown-up girl, when I asked her about this, she said, "Don't ask me questions, I won't tell you anything!" She hardly said anything about it.
[–] Let's hear what Semyon Zolotaryov's niece says about her uncle. Attention!
Tatiana [SKULBEDA]: This is Vera Zolotaryova, his mother. This is his father. And this, look, this is Valya, Semyon's cousin. These are rural photographs.
Yulia [OREKHOVA]: They came out into some garden. The village.
[TATYANA]: Semyon had a garden too. I was there. Apple trees on one side, pear trees on the other. He probably tended the garden; it was his hobby.
This was him at the age he was at the pass. Or maybe it was this girlfriend he had.
For some reason, he called himself Sasha. Maybe that was his pseudonym.
And when they exhumed Semyon, they took a DNA test from us to compare. They took a test from my brother. Because we're his closest relatives, it turns out. We're nephews. He's his uncle.
[OREKHOVA]: When they announced the results of the examination, they told us this man wasn't related to us. And we didn't see anything, not even the examination. Just from what they told us. If we were to trace this chain, then why the secrecy?
And there's a theory that he could have been a KGB special agent. Anything is possible. Our family knows little about him. He wasn't married. Instead of a family, he had nothing but expeditions. Then again, he had a son, but he disappeared somewhere…
[TATYANA]: I'm starting to think that maybe they did an examination, and it wasn't him. So, he survived. We want to know the truth!
[–] Let's invite her into the studio! Semyon Zolotaryov's great-niece, Yulia Orekhova, is here today. The family is confident that sooner or later they will learn the truth about their deceased relative.
[OREKHOVA]: Good evening! May I pass?
[–] Do you know Lyudmila Konstantinovna?
[OREKHOVA]: No, I haven't.
[–] Is the fate of missing Sasha discussed in your family?
[OREKHOVA]: Of course, it's always been discussed. My grandmother, Semyon's sister, always wanted to find him. We looked for him, the whole family looked, the adults. That's it. But we couldn't find him.
[–] And what's your family's theory?
[OREKHOVA]: That his mother gave him up to an orphanage. Which orphanage, we don't know. If he had been in an orphanage, his family would have taken him in. Semyon couldn't have given him up anywhere. And what was the point in giving him up anywhere? He would have given him up to his mother, he would have given him up to his aunt. Why was it necessary to give him up to an orphanage? His family would have taken him in.
[ORLOVA]: Andrey! It seems to me that this is a classic story where something happened that can't be logically explained. And there's no information. Then each family begins to project the image of the aggressor onto the other family. You say that his mother, Tatyana Burgach, is a truly terrible woman who gave up this child.
[OREKHOVA]: No, no!
[ORLOVA]: You just said that his mother gave him away.
[OREKHOVA]: No, I said that this is our family's version.
[ORLOVA]: Yes, this is your family's version.
[OREKHOVA]: Our family didn't have the goal of making him disappear…
[ORLOVA]: I didn't say that was the goal. I said that this is the process by which you project the image of the aggressor onto this family. And you say the child was kidnapped by the father.
[KOMOVA]: You see, that's their version, but I have the real memories!
[–] Well, let's see. The trail leads to Azerbaijan. Our correspondents have flown to Baku. Attention!
Viktor [NOSOV] (correspondent): For the first time in almost 70 years, we've managed to get as close as possible to Semyon Zolotaryov's missing son. New information has emerged that Semyon's wife gave their son, Sasha, to the mother of her first common-law husband.
And her former mother-in-law and husband lived in Azerbaijan. And now, straight from the plane, we're heading out to search for Sasha. Semyon Zolotaryov's wife was named Tamara Burgach, and her first husband was named Konstantin Khromov. Our only lead is Khromov's place of work. He was a correspondent for the Bakinsky Rabochy newspaper. There's probably some information about Khromov left. We'll check it all out now.
[NOSOV]: Hello! We're trying to find any information related to Konstantin Khromov. He once worked as a correspondent for your newspaper.
Perhaps there's some information preserved in the archives?
ILMAN MUSAIL: Yes, of course. Here's 1946. Here's Khromov. This is his critical material. He covered life in the republic, everyday life, the harvest. He also wrote in the feuilleton genre, and he was a master of it. A very good, skilled man. The Pushkin district is located there.
[NOSOV]: After Tamara Burgach and Konstantin Khromov separated, Khromov moved to the city of Sumgait. We're heading there now to tour the local cemetery. If we manage to find his grave, we'll learn his exact dates of birth and death. Then we can go to the archives to get complete information on Khromov. And that, in turn, will lead us to Sasha's trail…
We arrived at a cemetery where mostly Russians are buried.
These are old burials, and that's why there are so many graves here that are completely unmarked. No monument, no cross, nothing at all.
A man with the last name Zolotaryov is buried here. Yes, the name doesn't add up. The man's name here is Nikolai Vasilyevich, but his name could have been changed by Tamara Burgach. Incidentally, the dates of birth and death could also have been changed. The photograph does indeed bear a certain resemblance to Semyon Zolotaryov. Perhaps this is the missing son, Sasha. We continue driving. This is the largest cemetery in Sumgait. We've been wandering around here for hours now, and I don't see anyone with the last name Khromov, Burgach, or Zolotaryov.
We've been told that elderly Russians sometimes come to this unmarked grave, and the cemetery worker is sure he heard the name Khromov and a southern accent in their conversation. This again leads us to the south of Azerbaijan, specifically the town of Pushkino and the village of Arkhangelovka. We're heading there…
[–] Lyudmila, how did your family move from Azerbaijan to Stavropol Krai?
[KOMOVA]: Our grandfather was dispossessed, and then these kulaks were deported, some to Siberia, some to the south. My grandmother already told me about this. And so they traveled by cart to Azerbaijan, to the Pushkin district, to the village of Arkhangelovka. She says: "We arrived, and there were swamps there, swarming with snakes." My grandfather was from a wealthy family; they bred Arabian horses. But they took everything from him, leaving him with one horse and one cow. So they traveled there by cart.
How did we end up in Pyatigorsk? My grandfather's brother, Uncle Kolya, worked as a taxi driver. And when he arrived there, I was probably already five years old. And he said to his brother, my grandfather:
"What's your Tamara doing here? Let me take her to Pyatigorsk!"
And so he took us, Mom and me. We ended up in Pyatigorsk.
[–] And this grave our correspondent found, it says Nikolai. It's a fresh inscription from 1987. In any case, since 1987, it's been better preserved than the other graves. Do you have any idea who this could be?
[KOMOVA]: No, I have no idea.
[–] But one of the main questions left by the most enigmatic participant in the expedition, Semyon Zolotaryov, is: Why did he go to the pass with everyone else? Viktor Iosifovich, our expert, who was spewing out sensational news every 10 minutes yesterday, tells his version.
[VICTOR]: I climbed to the very top of Dyatlov Pass. There are rocks there. And I went left and climbed above the bunker on the other side. It's a weapons storage bunker, and there was also sarin. There's an underground bunker there.
[XENIA]: And you were there?
[VICTOR]: I just got there, but I didn't go inside because Zolotaryov poisoned himself there.
[XENIA]: So, Zolotaryov poisoned himself there between February 1st and 2nd?
[VICTOR]: Yes. Yes. He was there during the day on February 1st, 1959. He was skiing. It was a 20-meter descent on a rope, but he went on skis. He knew about this bunker and swallowed this poison. He got there and vomited all night. And even before the explosion, he was jumping out and burping…
[XENIA]: Where did you get such compelling evidence that Zolotaryov had been to the bunker before?
[VICTOR]: Well, a KGB colonel from the Sverdlovsk region knows everything!
[XENIA]: So how did it happen?
[VICTOR]: It wasn't February 23rd, when they went looking for them there. It was right at the moment when it all happened. And when they reported everything that had happened to him, he interrogated everyone for details and knew everything.
[XENIA]: And yet, the Dyatlov group, when were they poisoned and died? The date of their death, shall we say?
[VICTOR]: The night of February 1st to 2nd. They didn't notice the helicopter with that special forces unit. The squad arrived, and it was just getting a little dark, and the helicopter landed near the destroyed bridge on the Auspiya.
They landed on the platform, there was a clear area there. It was a delivery to Chistop. And to the left on that side was the road to the pass, it ran entirely through swamps, it was difficult there… They immediately lowered their equipment, radios, batteries, all their belongings. They lowered it with ropes, cables, to the other side, then descended themselves.
[XENIA]: So, this special forces group arrived, and they were from the direction of the Auspiya?
[VICTOR]: Yes!
[XENIA]: But Dyatlov's group was there too, near the Auspiya River. There are photos. It feels like someone is watching them from the forest. What do you think?
[VICTOR]: No, no one was watching them. It happened suddenly. There were a lot of photos. But the fact that someone's watching is all nonsense!
[XENIA]: Besides the Mansi, I know there are shamans living in the mountains. If a whole special forces unit flew in there, hasn't anyone seen them?
[VICTOR]: It's a long way to get there from Ushma, and if the Mansi go hunting, they arrive there by 10:00. And they left at 7:30.
[XENIA]: In 2029, in our time, they'll make this information public. What are you talking about?
[VICTOR]: They might make public how those tourists died. But no one will tell you a word about the secret weapon. I'm the only one left alive. I only told you the information that fate bestowed upon me.
[–] Okay, let's do a short commercial now! Immediately after this, we will continue the search for Semyon Zolotaryov's missing son. What have we been able to find in the archives and cemeteries of Azerbaijan? And Viktor Iosifovich with new revelations. What really happened to the Dyatlov group?
[–] Good evening again everyone! We continue to unravel the mysteries of the Dyatlov Pass hikers' deaths. We previously discovered that Semyon Zolotaryov, the day before his death, descended into a secret bunker near Dyatlov Pass, where he was severely poisoned. Ahead are new revelations from a man who remained silent for decades. What really happened to the Dyatlov group?
The daughter of Lev Ivanov, the investigator who led the investigation into the group's death, is with us today. Alexandra Lvovna! Did your father ever complain about his health after he was there on the investigation?
[IVANOVA]: No, my dad never complained about his health, but he was haunted his whole life by the thought that he hadn't finished, that he hadn't investigated this case. I think he thought about it all the time. But in Soviet times, you couldn't say that. Absolutely impossible! It was only in the 1990s, when this craze for UFOs and all these unexplained phenomena began.
He wrote an article in 1990, in the newspaper "Leninsky Put," an article called "The Mystery of the Fireballs" that ran in two issues. And in that article, he apologized. Although this article is only read in Kostanay and Kazakhstan, but still, it's the media. He apologized there for not being able to follow through. And why? Because he couldn't. He was ordered to drop the case. That means there was something there. And I, for my part, want to apologize to you too. After all, this case hasn't been investigated. It's unknown what it was. Now this story has come to light.
[ARKHIPOV]: Lev Nikitich did everything he could in 1959 and later. In 1990, he could have refused to give an interview to journalist Bogomolov. But he also appeared on "Ecology of the Unknown," a program on central television, in 1991 and spoke about radiation and other issues.
He publicly apologized. This suggests that your father was a man of great civic courage.
[–] Our correspondent went to the cemetery where the dead hikers are buried and measured the radiation levels at the graves. Attention!
[KOSKIN]: According to one theory, Dyatlov's group witnessed some kind of man-made disaster with the release of radioactive substances. The tourists' internal organs were tested for radiation, and they showed some excess of background radiation, and in 1959 they were classified.
Let's try checking the radiation level with a regular household dosimeter at Georgy Krivonischenko's grave. Here, it showed 18 microroentgens per hour. That's still within background levels. It's not dangerous. For comparison, let's place it on the ground in another place. Well, let's say, here. Here we measured 6 microroentgens per hour.
The radiation levels are small, but there are differences. Let's also look at Zolotaryov's grave. The grave was opened, and that's why the soil was mixed.
Well, 12 microroentgens. That's generally higher than background levels, and a little lower than at Krivonischenko's grave.
We are now at the Mikhailovskoye Cemetery, where the bulk of the Dyatlov group is buried.
Let's try the same experiment here. Here's Nikolai Thibeaux-Brignolle's grave. We'll try measuring the radiation level at this grave. Let's see what we get. 15 microroentgens per hour. But let's look nearby. Not at the grave, just on the ground.
Let's just move away a bit, and then we can move to any spot. This is within the background radiation level in Yekaterinburg, 6-7 microroentgens per hour. But at the grave, we recorded twice that level. It's difficult to draw conclusions here, but some thoughts are in order.
[–] Right now, we'll continue our search for Sasha Zolotaryov in Azerbaijan. Let's see!
[NOSOV]: Several independent sources have already confirmed that Tamara Burgach and Konstantin Khromov were from southern Azerbaijan. The trail leads to the city of Bilasuvar. In the Soviet Union, it was called Pushkino. We arrived at the cemetery. Everything here is overgrown with thorns.
They're very sharp and can cut right through a T-shirt to the skin.
We went through all the graves with Christian crosses. Unfortunately, we didn't come across anyone with the last name Burgach or Khromov. And there are a lot of abandoned graves, illegible. So now we'll go to the Bilasuvar archive.
[–] The collective farm kept a book about individual farms where the father and mother were listed.
[NOSOV]: Did you find it?
[–] Burgach Konstantin Stepanovich.
[NOSOV]: It's him. Hooray!
[–] Burgach Maria. Burgach Konstantin Stepanovich.
[NOSOV]: These are Tamara Burgach's parents. We found them. For some reason, Tamara Burgach isn't listed here.
We just found this piece of paper in the file. And it says: Tamara Burgach. And yet, the case isn't for Tamara Burgach. There was just a piece of paper lying in this document, not attached in any way.
[–] Wow!
[NOSOV]: And this piece of paper was just lying here.
[–] Tamara Burgach! Right here, from here, he found it.
[NOSOV]: Could it be that Tamara Burgach's file was removed from here?
[–] I've been working here for 35 years. No one has ever asked for this file.
[NOSOV]: Tamara Burgach, born in 1924. And here's 1924. That's her. We just found Tamara Burgach.
Tamara Konstantinovna Burgach, born in 1924. Moldovan.
Lyudmila Konstantinovna, daughter, born in 1948, Russian.
[–] Look! Tamara is Moldovan, and Lyudmila's father was Russian.
[NOSOV]: Father – Konstantin Khromov. That's why she's Russian.
[–] Yes, yes, yes.
[NOSOV]: Why are husband, wife, and children listed everywhere, but here it's only the woman and her child? Where's the husband?
[–] Pushkino, Azerbaijan, Arkhangelovka.
[NOSOV]: So, we've found out exactly where the Burgach family lived. It's the village of Arkhangelovka, now Bakbanlar. And we're heading there now.
[–] Right here. This is where the Burgach house was.
[NOSOV]: So, the Burgach children, including Tamara, lived right here. And Tamara went to this school.
[–] A girl was walking there and fell into the water. Someone saved her.
[NOSOV]: And this girl turned out to be Burgach's granddaughter?
[–] Burgach's granddaughter, that's for sure.
[NOSOV]: It's logical to assume that this is Tamara's daughter. Therefore, this is Lyudmila Komova.
We went to see one of the local residents. He's almost 80 years old. He knows everyone here.
Have you heard anything about Konstantin Khromov and Tamara Burgach? They were supposed to have lived here for some time.
[–] Yes, I heard from older Russians, and our children heard. They lived here, they lived. They had a daughter, or she had a son too. That's what they say.
[NOSOV]: So, people saw them with their daughter and son.
Konstantin Khromov and Tamara Burgach had only one child. And that daughter. If the locals also saw them with their son, it's possible that this is Semyon Zolotaryov's missing son.
[KOMOVA]: My father never lived there in Azerbaijan. My mother lived with him in Baku for some time. They didn't live in Arkhangelovka, in the village. She lived with him in Baku. She even told me about mutual friends. One of them, I remember, was Masulyan, a photographer for Komsomolskaya Pravda.
[–] Viktor Nosov is in our studio today. Do you think that if Zolotaryov's relatives had accompanied you to Azerbaijan, we could have gotten any more results?
[NOSOV]: 100%. Because we contacted the administrations of several cities, we contacted the Baku Multifunctional Center. They didn't give us full information because they specifically needed relatives. So, if Lyudmila agrees to go to Azerbaijan with us, then everything will work out, and we'll uncover new information.
[–] Well, I understand that both Oleg Rybakov and the Foundation are probably ready to get involved. No, if that's what you're interested in.
[RYBAKOV]: Yes, I'm interested, because it all started with my hunch, my theory, let's call it that. I spent a long time studying the biographies of the Khromovs and Zolotaryovs and came to the conclusion that Sasha could have been taken to the Khromov family.
[KOMOVA]: Who could have taken him?
[RYBAKOV]: We can't determine that now.
[ORLOVA]: And did you have contact with your father after that?
[KOMOVA]: No.
[ORLOVA]: If there was no contact even with his own child, then how likely is it that they would take another man's child there?
[KOMOVA]: When he came, he saw that I was born. They lived in Baku, as my mother told me. Why she left there, I don't know. She cut off all ties with him.
[ORLOVA]: So, she couldn't give him the child.
[KOMOVA]: No way.
[ORLOVA]: It's strange – to give the child to your ex-husband when he doesn't communicate.
[KOMOVA]: No, no way. I suspect something happened that caused my mother to leave, and he was trying to contact her all the time. On the back of his photograph, where he's wearing a hat, it says, "With love, Lyudochka, 1949."
I was born in 1948. In 1949, he gave me the photo as a keepsake. They talked, but I don't know what happened.
[NOSOV]: Can you tell us more about where they lived? We had that information in Baku, too, but several sources confirmed that they were in Bilasuvar, too. First, Khromov worked for the newspaper "Red Cotton Grower." That newspaper is based in Bilasuvar.
Second, you're even listed in the archival records. We found information about you there… And your father, Konstantin Khromov – he should be somewhere in the archives, too.
[KOMOVA]: Do you understand how they met? He's a correspondent; he came to this village. My mother worked there as a secretary for a local organization, and they met there. That's where it all started.
Maybe he was there for a while on business. Maybe he had some kind of long-term assignment. Maybe he lived there with her for a while. But she went with him to Baku, that's for sure.
[NOSOV]: We need to go together. With your help, we'll find it!
[–] Let's get back to Viktor Iosifovich. The main answer to the question: what happened to the group that night, has been tormenting everyone for 67 years. And here's a recent interview he gave exclusively to our program.
[VICTOR]: The capsule exploded in the Wild Goose Valley. It was a planned test. The task was to collect air, water, and soil samples. But the soldiers, when they were going to collect samples, as they were climbing the mountain, saw a light 100 meters away. They approached the light and saw a tent.
The tent was cut open. There was no one there. During the explosion, oxygen levels dropped by 79%, and carbon dioxide levels rose to 24%, almost doubling, which is what caused them to start cutting through the tent and jumping out. They couldn't breathe.
And in this situation, only Zolotaryov could figure out that this was a weapons test. He ran into the tent and offered everyone distilled water to drink. He started giving everyone water and stuffing cotton wool into their mouths, assuming that water is also partially oxygen.
And because they did this with water, they jumped out, slightly extending their lives, but they didn't get far.
They ran from the tent a distance of 16 to 39 meters. They had no strength left. They could speak and wave their arms. But their brains were paralyzed by the carbon dioxide. They couldn't stand up or run. And then snow began to fall on them. They lay there.
When the soldiers approached Zolotaryov, Zolotaryov came to, grabbed his machine gun, and tore off his gas mask. He had enough strength for this. When they approached Dubinina, she weakly begged, "Save me, help me!"
Next, they took a rope, 36 meters of it, and hung it between each person, like in a line. They cut the wire into 40-cm pieces. The wire used to be triangular in cross-section. And with these 40-cm pieces, they tied everyone to the rope. Two of the tourists had their skin pulled off their arms. A triangular-section wire did it. When they were walking on a rope, their skin was completely worn off.
And when they got down, 10-15 meters from the cedar, the soldiers laid them all down and approached the fire. And they were wondering what to do next? And they started covering their tracks. They made a platform with handles, like a stretcher. They laid Dyatlov and Kolmogorova down, laid them face down on this platform, and tied them with pants and belts so they wouldn't fall.
And when they laid Dyatlov and Kolmogorova out in the snow, they later returned, picked up Doroshenko and Krivonischenko 15 meters from the cedar, and also carried them from that spot to the cedar.
And regarding the four men, they decided to make them decompose faster. Elements of this weapon always remain on coats and clothes. But that was so it would all wash off their clothes in the stream. They laid four people on this platform, walked 70 or 75 meters to the right, carried them to a hillock, and from there, swinging them with their hands, threw them over the cliff there. Into the stream. That's how four people ended up there. And the fact that they were covered in snow, with rocks and boulders at that… Rocks don't fall from the sky. So they somehow shoveled these rocks in.
But it turned out quite differently. To cover their tracks, they ordered a helicopter and an air turbine, which cleared snow from the airfield. They brought the turbine and 10-15 kg of salt to sprinkle all the tracks with. The salt melts, and the tracks turn into water.
Where they killed them, they covered the tracks with salt everywhere. To simulate the tourists wearing their own shoes, they did so on their knees, then on all fours, and then walked along the same path again, wearing the victims' shoes, so it would be clear they were the ones walking there!
[–] Oleg! What do you think of this confession?
Oleg [MATVEYEV] (historian of the secret services): My answer will be brief. It's impossible to comment on this professionally.
Nikolay [LUZAN] (historian of the secret services): Can I add something else? I agree with Oleg. Let's start with the fact that if you carefully analyze all his statements, they contradict each other.
Moreover, he provides details that are absent in reality. I speak as someone who has participated in similar events. Everything is different there. Only the initial part of it can be perceived as argumentation.
Furthermore, there were specialists here who gave their assessment, who studied the documents in depth first and foremost. Again, all this is from who knows who. Some KGB colonel told him about some agents.
This colonel would have been immediately stripped of his epaulettes and sent packing if he said anything… Let's say they're now saying Ivan is an agent. What agent? What are you talking about? I'll repeat again, this is information that constitutes a state secret.
[–] Just a second!
[LUZAN]: Oleg Nikolayevich! Oleg Konstantinovich, you can trust him. He was one of the best-informed people back when he served.
[ARKHIPOV]: It must be said that no traces of outsiders were found.
[LUZAN]: Our entire argument built around these conspiracy theories goes like this: I heard, I know for sure, it seems to me… One grandmother told me, I heard from one grandfather.
[ARKHIPOV]: And yet, the names of the victims are precisely named.
Evgeny [ANTROPOV] (actor playing Kolevatov): What can I say? We all know there is such a thing as the human factor. You know many documentaries where this human factor allowed someone to go against their conscience.
And sometimes there were even circumstances that we'll look at, and I'll understand why he did it. It was difficult, it was a crime. But I understand why he did it. It's the human factor!
[–] We'll have another short commercial now. Immediately after: Who was punished for the hikers' deaths? How many people were sentenced to death? Why did Viktor Iosifovich decide to tell us the truth? All this in a few minutes.
[–] Good evening again! We continue to investigate the mystery of the hikers' deaths at Dyatlov Pass. Today, a new sensational interview with Viktor Iosifovich, who remained silent for 67 years, but today tells the truth about the death of the Dyatlov group. We'll find out his real name right now.
[ANTROPOV]: We're waiting for it!
[–] First, there will be a few more details. And then, in the finale, his real name will be revealed. Attention!
[VICTOR]: A special forces unit. It was based in Yekaterinburg; there was an entire regiment there. In fact, when the weapons testing was going on…
This special forces unit, first of all, was erudite. They were trained in everything: chemistry, and atomic testing.
They knew everything, including how to conduct analysis, because there were eight of them, all with higher educations.
They confirmed their higher education through these tests. They were sent there specifically to collect water, soil, and air samples.
[XENIA]: You said that these soldiers in the special forces unit cut the soldiers' foot wraps. Do you even know their length?
[VICTOR]: A radio, a submarine battery, and a diesel generator based on an IZH-49 diesel engine, a two-cylinder one.
[XENIA]: Was the battery from a submarine?
[VICTOR]: The battery was from a submarine; it was used through a converter to produce alternating current at 113-114 volts.
[XENIA]: Where did you get such knowledge, Viktor Iosifovich? You know so much!
[VICTOR]: Life has taught me that!
[XENIA]: And tell me, there were eight soldiers there. We haven't paid much attention to them yet. What sentences did they receive?
[VICTOR]: One of them got six years in prison, another eight years, and the third twelve years. Five were sentenced to death. People blame the KGB, but the KGB had nothing to do with it. On the contrary, they investigated what happened and punished everyone responsible for the lack of clear information, which allowed this terrible incident to occur.
[XENIA]: You said that the general's son was there, who was then taken to Omsk and hidden.
[VICTOR]: Yes, he was one of the five people sentenced to death.
One of them was saved by a high-ranking military commander at the time. He sent him to Omsk under a false name. The general, who saved his son, was retired. This general wasn't punished, but the man who gave the radio command that no witnesses should be left alive was punished.
[XENIA]: Tell me, this general's surviving son… what's his real last name?
[VICTOR]: No, they didn't tell me his last name, they just told me.
[XENIA]: And I don't even understand what kind of general he was?
[VICTOR]: They told me he was a high-ranking military commander. Who he was, I can't know.
[XENIA]: There was a very high-ranking commander there. We discussed him back then. I'll tell you now. Was it General Lelyushenko?
[VICTOR]: I can't tell you his last name.
[XENIA]: You can't know? Or can't you tell me?
[VICTOR]: They said he was a colonel general. He was the deputy commander of a helicopter regiment. And the lieutenant general was a regiment commander in Sverdlovsk.
[XENIA]: It's just that Dmitry Lelyushenko was also a general, and he personally visited there many times later. Why did he go there?
[VICTOR]: Something was bothering him…
[–] Oleg Nikolayevich, you've been collecting information about Lelyushenko for many years. Don't you think Viktor Iosifovich is somehow connected to him?
[ARKHIPOV]: We need to work, to check. As for Dmitry Danilovich, he took part in the search; he was in Ivdel. I have several sources of information, including local historians. We even know where he stayed.
He was in close contact with the third secretary of the Ivdel city party committee, Alexander Dmitrievich Gubin. And Gubin emphasized that Lelyushenko was very depressed. He was surrounded by his adjutants.
Eduard Stepanovich Khodorchenko also told me that there were many high-ranking military officials there. That's true.
I can say that Andrei Pavlovich Kirilenko himself, the First Secretary of the Regional Party Committee, came to Ivdel twice during the search. That is, very influential people were there. In particular, General Lelyushenko, commander of the Ural Military District in 1959.
[–] Let's answer the main question. Why did Viktor Iosifovich, who had been silent for so many years, decide to speak up only now? Attention!
[XENIA]: When we first started talking, you introduced yourself as Ivan Andreevich. Why?
[VICTOR]: I didn't want to give my last name right away, so that people wouldn't tell me, so that I wouldn't get any calls from friends, or anyone else. And if a TV channel is interested, they'll come, they'll find out, they'll meet me personally, and they'll know who I am.
[XENIA]: As I understand it, you have a different patronymic.
[VICTOR]: I'm Viktor Sidorovich. My father was Sidor.
[XENIA]: Do I understand correctly that you interacted very closely with KGB officers?
[VICTOR]: I interacted with the commanders. There were different services and military units there. I talked to them, conversed. When I was a son of the regiment, I was 12 years old. I only became a son of the regiment because my brother was serving in Tbilisi. Military unit 35690, not far from Avlabari Square. And he took me into the regiment and arranged with the regiment commander to put me on the payroll as a son of the regiment. This is what happened to me.
[XENIA]: Why were you attracted to our TV program?
[VICTOR]: I like the way your show is presented, the way the editors edited it. And I've come to the conclusion that this is the best channel. And the best is Andrey Nikolayevich Malakhov. That's why I decided to put a white dot in this black spot.
[–] And what do you say? Is Sasha alive? What does your heart tell you?
VALERY: My heart tells me he's been dead for two years.
[–] So, we're a little late.
[OREKHOVA]: Andrey! We're in a tug-of-war right now… Is Semyon to blame, or is Sasha's mother to blame? The most important thing is that we'd like to find Sasha now, as he is, alive or not.
[–] Let's look for him!
[OREKHOVA]: WE will achieve the goal of finding Sasha.
[–] So, the search for Alexander Zolotaryov continues. Thank you so much, Viktor Sidorovich, for such an interesting and captivating story. If you know anything and you, too, have kept silent for 67 years, call the editorial office! That's all for today. Take care of yourself and your loved ones. Goodbye! |
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