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Author Topic: Where were the footprints in relation to Zina, Rustem and Igor's bodies?  (Read 15178 times)

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February 05, 2019, 12:59:59 AM
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Here is a screenshot from a Youtube map animation video of the terrain and body locations:



Is there any information where the footsteps were found in relation to the three found in between cedar tree and the tent? I only ever see how far the bodies were from the cedar tree, not the trail of footprints.
If they were trying to return to the tent, it would make sense to follow the footprints back, particularly if a flashlight was left to light the way.

If one or more of them collapsed on the way down, then again it makes sense for them to be near the footprints. Unless they were separated, or didn't go down at the same time.


 

February 05, 2019, 02:10:58 AM
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Nigel Evans


Al three were buried under the snow, ditto their footprints?
 

February 05, 2019, 02:42:15 AM
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Al three were buried under the snow, ditto their footprints?

I meant the set of 8 or 9 footprints leading from near the tent down the slope.
 

February 05, 2019, 03:45:30 AM
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Al three were buried under the snow, ditto their footprints?

I meant the set of 8 or 9 footprints leading from near the tent down the slope.
No they stopped (from memory about 500m) from the tent.


 

February 05, 2019, 03:59:58 AM
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No they stopped (from memory about 500m) from the tent.

Oh right. Zina didn't make it that far. But if they were backtracking the footsteps that night to the tent, they should be in a line with the visible footsteps, unless the group veered off? I've never seen a visual of their path downhill. Didn't they pick the steps in the forest leading to the cedar tree?
 

February 05, 2019, 04:21:06 AM
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No they stopped (from memory about 500m) from the tent.

Oh right. Zina didn't make it that far. But if they were backtracking the footsteps that night to the tent, they should be in a line with the visible footsteps, unless the group veered off? I've never seen a visual of their path downhill. Didn't they pick the steps in the forest leading to the cedar tree?
You're assuming that they would retrace their downhill path exactly which is a big assumption. They would be walking into the wind and might prefer a different route (to the flashlight). Also it's my theory that the close grouping of their bodies suggests they had been weakened and were struggling with the incline.
 

February 05, 2019, 06:11:49 AM
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Here is a screenshot from a Youtube map animation video of the terrain and body locations:



Is there any information where the footsteps were found in relation to the three found in between cedar tree and the tent? I only ever see how far the bodies were from the cedar tree, not the trail of footprints.
If they were trying to return to the tent, it would make sense to follow the footprints back, particularly if a flashlight was left to light the way.

If one or more of them collapsed on the way down, then again it makes sense for them to be near the footprints. Unless they were separated, or didn't go down at the same time.




here is my opinion:
Mountain relief was uneven and climatic condition different on the different part of slope. As they walked down from the tent, their footprints could be deeper into the HARDENED snow and stay so preserved. When the trio aimed from the cedar back to the tent, the snow and relief could be different (POWDERY) because they did not go back the same way as they went down and the footprints will not remain in the snow.

And why did not they return to the tent the same way? Because they did not see the previous tracks in the darkness and went to the tent only intuitively upward to hill. As far as I know, the flashlight lay in the snow and far away from the cedar, and the light was not visible from cedar.
 

February 07, 2019, 04:34:00 PM
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No they stopped (from memory about 500m) from the tent.

Oh right. Zina didn't make it that far. But if they were backtracking the footsteps that night to the tent, they should be in a line with the visible footsteps, unless the group veered off? I've never seen a visual of their path downhill. Didn't they pick the steps in the forest leading to the cedar tree?

Problem is we dont have any visible footprints going over the 500 or so metres that has been mentioned.  Footprints started about 20 metres from the Tent and continued for about 500 metres. We have a few photos that really dont say much.  Many of the original footprints were destroyed by the search teams when they were walking around in the area not knowing that it was a potential crime scene.
DB
 

February 04, 2025, 11:02:31 PM
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SURI


If Slobodin was found outside the line of the two on the slope, then it would be understandable why they didn't find him at the same time as the other two.
 

Today at 12:04:38 AM
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Then it would also undermine the hypothesis that they were returning to the tent. It would rather indicate an escape from the intersection point. Slobodin to the side (he was caught and stopped), Zina up (she was caught and stopped) and the two Yuris down to the cedar, where they were also eventually caught. Slobodin and Zina have a body position as if they are running away from someone. And that someone couldn't be alone.
 

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Ziljoe


Dyatlov was spotted visually, mostly covered by snow, then Zina was found by the search dog. Slobidin was buried slightly deeper . There are only 30 people at this point, it is day one of the search , a HQ has to be prepared, the Yuri's were found , Zina and Dyatlov too. 4 of the bodies were transported to boot rock and the tent was looked at and search plan was made.  This is a lot of work and information .By 4 o'clock on the 1st  the weather is turning and the students are disheartened to find that their friends have died.


Radio 1/III 59

Today, despite the sharp deterioration in the weather, the search continued. We passed about 1,000 meters of the zone 30 meters wide of the most probable part of the stop of the victims. The search yielded nothing, the snow is 1-2 meters deep and more. Today the wind reaches 30 meters, there is no visibility, so in such weather the search cannot be continued. *

The entire detachment of 30 people feels fine, everyone works together and in an organized manner. However, if the bad weather lasts 3-4 days and if you give permission taking into account the bad weather for 3-4 days, we can leave with the entire detachment in 2 days on our own to 2nd Severny or to Lozva, where we can be picked up by helicopter.

* As for the advisability of further search, it can be said that searches in this area even in good weather may not yield anything. If the weather were good, it would be possible to check 1-2 more areas.

Scan 20

I answer:

1) We can continue the search, but half of the group needs to be replaced by fresher forces. We need to remove Slobtsov's group and the Mansi.

2) Sappers will be more useful with probes, not with mine detectors, since people under the snow do not have metal and metal things. Probes are needed 2.5 meters, about 20 pieces.

3) According to today's order, the weather is expected to deteriorate on March 2. If not, we will be only too happy, since a strong snowstorm is raging behind our tent, and the weather is getting worse with each passing hour. I also inform you that on the way back from the search at 4 o'clock in the afternoon we took the food sent by helicopter and lowered it down. Next time, please send newspapers. M-v.


We can see the tent then I think the first x is the torch below the tent . The two X's next to the blue squiggle I think are the chum and the platform in the trees, possibly a Mansi labaz behind the chum.

The 3 fir trees to the top left in the red hash zone can be seen in some of the search photos. The middle x in the line is Slobidin. I would suspect he wasn't found quickly because of the weather in part and they were working systematically in the red zone, also I believe they were probing around the ceder in the first days too as a priority in case there was survivers in the forest somewhere.

I don't think there would be foot prints anywhere near the three on the slope, going up or down as it's obvious that the snow level they were walking / crawling on is at least 40-60 cm deeper than the day/ night of the incident.





The body positions represent the last moments of movement for survival, probably against the elements. They are consistent with many other cases of hypothermia that look unusual.
 

Today at 03:09:52 AM
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My view of the event is similar to the "Zolotaryov meltdown" thread, except that he wasn't alone in this and it was planned. And that's based on the combat leaflet, if you read between the lines. The scene and the leaflet are completely consistent.
 

Today at 03:23:42 AM
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Ziljoe


My view of the event is similar to the "Zolotaryov meltdown" thread, except that he wasn't alone in this and it was planned. And that's based on the combat leaflet, if you read between the lines. The scene and the leaflet are completely consistent.

It sounds interesting, who do you think was helping Zolotaryov and what perhaps was the motive? Do you think it was a spy mission, hate, jealousy or something thing else. I haven't made a link with the combat leaflet and the scene yet unfortunately.