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February 01, 2026, 03:52:01 PM
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Ziljoe


I don't think it's amazing.
It is amazing, isn't it?

QUOTE from GOOGLE AI:
The Ural Mountains region in Russia is considered an area with an anomalously high frequency of bolide (fireball) sightings and meteorite falls, often associated with its distinct tectonic features. While small bolides occur globally on a daily basis, the Ural region has a notable history of significant, observable events.

Key facts regarding bolides in the Ural Mountains:

Anomalous Frequency: Research indicates that the Urals and the nearby Yenisei-Tunguska-Baikal region are considered "anomalously" active, with a high frequency of bolide appearances, some accompanied by meteorite falls.

The 2013 Chelyabinsk Event: On February 15, 2013, a roughly 17-20 meter meteor exploded over the southern Ural Mountains near Chelyabinsk, releasing energy equivalent to roughly 500 kilotons of TNT. This was the largest reported airburst since the 1908 Tunguska event.
Other Recorded Events: In addition to the 2013 explosion, other meteors have fallen in the region, such as the Kunashak meteorite in 1949.


The question must be asked as to why the Urals is potentially a higher frequency of bolide if it is at all?

We can have a higher frequency of bolide in other parts of the globe but one large one in a large land mass. We have to observe the data and understand it it . For example , from the data you put forward , is it the number of bolide observations, visual, or recorded by technical machines or size of potential meteorite .

This make a huge difference. Later studies over a longer time given this image .


The red represents the size of the mass , not the frequency of metors , take away the 2013 event and everything globally is a random event of the penatration of random rocks from space?.
 
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February 02, 2026, 08:22:08 AM
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Missi


Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize it's about the energy, not the frequency. Would have made for a nice anomaly though...
 

February 02, 2026, 08:48:22 AM
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amashilu

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NASA's explanation of the bolide map:

The map above indicates the locations where small asteroids crashed into Earth’s atmosphere between 1994 and 2013. Each of these 556 events resulted in a very bright meteor—also known as a bolide or fireball. On the map, orange dots represent daytime impacts and blue represents nighttime. The size of each dot is proportional to the radiated energy of the fireball, measured in billions of Joules (GigaJoules).

The map includes asteroids/meteors ranging from about 1 meter (3 feet) to almost 20 meters (65 feet); it does not include objects smaller than a meter. Nearly all of them disintegrated in the atmosphere and were harmless to life on the surface. The notable exception was the February 2013 Chelyabinsk event over central Russia. That impact released the energy equivalent of 440,000 to 500,000 tons of TNT, and it was the largest meteor to hit Earth in this period.
 

February 16, 2026, 11:10:43 AM
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Well if I'm desperately looking for evidence then I'm not alone. The whole point of this forum and other forums and sites is to try and figure out what happened and that requires us to search for evidence.
You are right, we all want to know what happened at DP in February 1959. But I do not think we can find any extra evidence besides those pieces found in 1959. Lev Ivanov and his colleagues had been working hard for a few months, and we have to leverage on what was found those days. Of course, sooner or later new evidence will come, but it will not be due to our efforts. There is a chance that old USSR secret archives will be made public, and then we will get to know true cause of the incident. Before it happens, we are to make a best guess, IMHO.

Another topic is what could be called "evidence". In theory, evidence should be provided by case files. The question is: what is status of the known case files? If we go deeper into this topic, it will become clear that the case files is unofficial document, which has the same level of credibility as recollections of Mr.Sharavin, Mr.Sogrin, Mr.Okishev, provided many years after. The case files were fabricated by Ivanov at request from the Moscow big boss - Leonid Urakov. The case files' only purpose was to provide a due folder for the investigation's closing statement, and having that statement on hand to finish the investigation and stop any further attempts to understand what happened with the hikers. The case files has no number, which means this documets has been concealed from official registration, which is mandatory. Inside, it has a lot of violations of USSR's Code of Criminal Procedure, but all these violations "were overlooked" by Ivanov's supervisors. Yes, the case files contain a lot of genuine documents, but alltogether they give no clue what was the cause of DPI. The case files offer very shaky evidence!

  You say ;  ''Of course, sooner or later new evidence will come, but it will not be due to our efforts.'' But history shows that persistent enquiry sometimes gets results, precisely because it is persistent. We see it today in many of the scandals that are circulating the World. Persistence has forced authorities to reveal what they would not have revealed unless pressure of sorts was put upon them. 



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March 06, 2026, 01:46:37 AM
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It may be quite interesting to compare how two main Soviet cosmodromes were being built and made operational in 1950-60s.

History of Tyuratam (Baikonur cosmodrome):
12.01.1955  Arrival at the Tyuratam railway station of the first unit of military builders to prepare the deployment sites, construction, and installation infrastructure. The construction of the settlement begins.
12.02.1955  Order of the Council of Ministers of the USSR on creation of a test site for intercontinental ballistic missiles.
20.07.1955  Construction of the first launch pad begins.
15.05.1957  The first R-7 rocket is launched from the cosmodrome.

12.01.1955 - 15.05.1957 => less than 1.5 years.

History of Angara (Plesetsk cosmodrome):
11.01.1957   Order of the USSR government on creation of the military facility Angara.
15.03.1957  Construction of the facility began 180 kilometers south of Arkhangelsk, in close proximity to the railway station of Plesetskaya of the Northern Railway.
Between 1957 and 1963, nine launch complexes were built at the Angara facility, including 15 launch pads for four types of missiles: R-7/R-7A, R-16, R-16U, and R-9A.
22.10.1963  The first launch. R-16U ballistic missile was launched from a silo.

15.03.1957 - 22.10.1963 => more than 6.5 years.

With the introduction of the 2nd (Plesetsk) cosmodrome the Soviet government seemed to be very tolerant.  grin1  They kept waiting till the very last launch pad was built and only after that started launches.