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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up

« Last post by Ziljoe on June 24, 2025, 05:30:00 PM »

https://dyatlovpass.com/lev-ivanov

It's in this. He thinks fireballs and his description of the February event resembles a craft separating from a solid rocket booster. He calls it a star but could be anything. Even a cold fireball. https://dyatlovpass.com/lev-ivanov

This is old ground and some what sensationalism. What would you think burnt trees in a winter land Scape look like? Could trees look like they were burnt by nature's own mean, or such a thing not occur? 

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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up

« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on June 24, 2025, 05:07:10 PM »

https://dyatlovpass.com/lev-ivanov

It's in this. He thinks fireballs and his description of the February event resembles a craft separating from a solid rocket booster. He calls it a star but could be anything. Even a cold fireball. https://dyatlovpass.com/lev-ivanov

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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up

« Last post by Ziljoe on June 24, 2025, 04:26:44 PM »

I'm referring to Ivanov's description of burned treetops. I'm quite surprised you have to ask.

What was Ivanov's evidence of burnt trees?

This is why I ask. You have added explosives and burnt trees what could be the reason that Ivanov could say such a statement?

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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up

« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on June 24, 2025, 11:39:20 AM »

I'm probably muddying the waters myself. Typically I try and avoid what I call the second event because the first event is still so elusive. I'm definitely not sold on the idea of explosives. But in my gut I am sold on the idea of a mutiny. Either as a standalone event or part of another event such as a snow slab.

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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up

« Last post by RMK on June 24, 2025, 09:35:07 AM »

Or he stole explosives from Yudin who was a geologist and that's why Yudin left.

Yudin was an engineering economics major.  He wasn't really a geologist...well, maybe he was an amateur geologist.  After all, he did agree to bring back some core samples from the trip, to the university.

Anyway, to reiterate Ziljoe's point, it's really hard to believe that the hikers were carrying explosive materials with them for their whole journey.  Why would they do that?  Why carry something that's extra weight, potentially dangerous, and could get them into trouble with the law, for no apparent purpose?

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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up

« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on June 24, 2025, 08:57:59 AM »

What burning on the tops of trees do you refer to?. Why and how would a group of hikers transport explosives on train , bus , back of a lorry then a sledge , on skis , on back backs for 200km , whilst falling and sliding , carrying enough food and shelter for 2 weeks?

Then how does this explosion burn the tops of trees and not the hikers ? What is the explosive power of what they carried through domestic civilization, including schools and train stations ?

What trees were burned?

For the "Igor used explosives" idea to have any viability at all, I think we would need to assume that he found some abandoned explosives at Second Northern.

I believe Lev Ivanov, and ONLY Lev Ivanov, reported seeing scorched treetops.

Or he stole explosives from Yudin who was a geologist and that's why Yudin left.

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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up

« Last post by RMK on June 24, 2025, 08:15:06 AM »

What burning on the tops of trees do you refer to?. Why and how would a group of hikers transport explosives on train , bus , back of a lorry then a sledge , on skis , on back backs for 200km , whilst falling and sliding , carrying enough food and shelter for 2 weeks?

Then how does this explosion burn the tops of trees and not the hikers ? What is the explosive power of what they carried through domestic civilization, including schools and train stations ?

What trees were burned?

For the "Igor used explosives" idea to have any viability at all, I think we would need to assume that he found some abandoned explosives at Second Northern.

I believe Lev Ivanov, and ONLY Lev Ivanov, reported seeing scorched treetops.

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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up

« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on June 24, 2025, 08:12:13 AM »

I'm referring to Ivanov's description of burned treetops. I'm quite surprised you have to ask.

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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up

« Last post by Ziljoe on June 23, 2025, 06:27:45 PM »

I tried adding this with the original post after the final statement for effect, but it didn't want to work so I renamed it. I think you and I are basically on the same page.
 
I tend to think the injuries were caused by Igor using explosives, which geologists were known to carry. It would also explain the burning on the tops of the trees.

What burning on the tops of trees do you refer to?. Why and how would a group of hikers transport explosives on train , bus , back of a lorry then a sledge , on skis , on back backs for 200km , whilst falling and sliding , carrying enough food and shelter for 2 weeks?

Then how does this explosion burn the tops of trees and not the hikers ? What is the explosive power of what they carried through domestic civilization, including schools and train stations ?

What trees were burned?

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General Discussion / Re: Dyatlov Mutiny Cover Up

« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on June 23, 2025, 06:23:40 PM »

I tried adding this with the original post after the final statement for effect, but it didn't want to work so I renamed it. I think you and I are basically on the same page.
 
I tend to think the injuries were caused by Igor using explosives, which geologists were known to carry. It would also explain the burning on the tops of the trees.

Propaganda

Of course. Like everything.