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Please do not quote each and every previous post. Quote parts or just reply. Otherwise topics become endless without reason.
The Reply button is under the post, not on top. It is square and says Reply. Seriously, I am thinking you may have not noticed it.
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General Discussion / Re: I can't even think of setting up a labaz here
« Last post by Ziljoe on May 07, 2026, 05:44:29 PM »

To say you can't imagine something is not really a big deal. The weather was bad. How bad we don't know because we weren't there. But they would know that the weather can be bad at that time of year in that area.

Sarapuk, 
Can you clarify what specific point you’re making in relation to the diary entry or the Feb 1 conditions? 
We all know the weather can be bad — I’m just trying to see how your comment connects. 
Unless you’re suggesting the aliens’ satnav hadn’t been updated.?

I would have thought that what I said was self-explanatory. The reference is obviously to weather conditions. And everyone knows that the weather can be very bad in that area at that time of year. The Dyatlov Group knew that.

So you agree it was the weather that killed them? It's taken a while for to say it.
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General Discussion / Re: I can't even think of setting up a labaz here
« Last post by sarapuk on May 07, 2026, 05:04:02 PM »

To say you can't imagine something is not really a big deal. The weather was bad. How bad we don't know because we weren't there. But they would know that the weather can be bad at that time of year in that area.

Sarapuk, 
Can you clarify what specific point you’re making in relation to the diary entry or the Feb 1 conditions? 
We all know the weather can be bad — I’m just trying to see how your comment connects. 
Unless you’re suggesting the aliens’ satnav hadn’t been updated.?

I would have thought that what I said was self-explanatory. The reference is obviously to weather conditions. And everyone knows that the weather can be very bad in that area at that time of year. The Dyatlov Group knew that.

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I’m genuinely curious how many people here are willing to look at the psychology behind the theories, not just the theories themselves.

Psychology behind the theories 🤔. Not sure how that can help! And besides, if there is a theory that may indicate a human aggressor, then psychology is going to be a factor in the aggression anyway.

“Psychology helps because most Dyatlov debates aren’t about new evidence — they’re about how people interpret the same evidence differently. That’s exactly why the same file produces murder theories, avalanche theories, rocket theories, and everything in between. Understanding why interpretations diverge is part of understanding the case itself.

But please do me a favour, add a theory or something. Use your cattle mutilation thread to argue your case. You only brought a random YouTube video of the same old UFO stories. I look forward to your evidence.
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I am sure that many people/investigators are interested in this Dyatlov Case for some spiritual reward. And many are just interested out of curiosity. And many out of some sort of thrill. And many may be hoping for some kind of recognition and maybe a physical reward of some kind.

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Psychology behind the theories 🤔. Not sure how that can help! And besides, if there is a theory that may indicate a human aggressor, then psychology is going to be a factor in the aggression anyway.


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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by amashilu on May 07, 2026, 04:40:50 AM »
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Additionally, I want to point that all speculations that when the hikers approached the ravine after leaving the tent, the ravine was full of snow, and they started to dig a cave, are groundless. The position of the flooring they made in the ravine indicates that there was little snow there, which allowed them to use the ravine as a natural shelter -- a trench, like many others where Semeyon used to hide himself during the War.

Yes, it has long been a point of confusion how they managed to "dig" the den without tools, so this makes sense.

Also, I appreciate your looking to Semyon's war experience to explain some of the evidence; I have wondered many times why this is so ignored.
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Looking at the traumas of the Ravine-4 hikers, we cannot avoid concept of high-pressure blast wave, brought to the spotlight by Boris Vozrozhdenniy. What is important, regarding fractures of the ribs observed for Luda and Semeyon, as well as skull crack observed for Thibo, Vozrozhdenniy offers mechanism of indirect impact from the blast. It was not the wave itself that crushed the bones. The wave threw the hikers on the stones in the creek, and the bones were crushed by the stones. The wave acted as a moving door of a giant press, while the stones acted as another, immobile door.

It's also important that the blast was not of a classic type, which is explosion of a bomb or a shell. For the classic blast we have abrupt and strong airfront, which can tear arms and legs, eardrums, etc. Russians offer the following illustration of a classic blast:



The blast, we can imagine for DPI, was of another type - volumetric explosion. A huge volume of gas burnt high in the air. This type of blast is illustrated by different picture:



Wave's strike from that 2nd type of a blast is not that strong, but I believe it's strong enough to damage eyes, so they do not keep long in place.

Additionally, I want to point that all speculations that when the hikers approached the ravine after leaving the tent, the ravine was full of snow, and they started to dig a cave, are groundless. The position of the flooring they made in the ravine indicates that there was little snow there, which allowed them to use the ravine as a natural shelter -- a trench, like many others where Semeyon used to hide himself during the War.
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General Discussion / Re: 100 questions to Askinadzi
« Last post by SURI on May 06, 2026, 11:00:05 PM »
I already wrote about this in another thread. Not one group went into the mountains, but two. The infiltrated group had its own language, its own diaries and photographs. Don't forget that Ivanov saw all the photos of the deceased tourists. He had plenty of evidence.
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General Discussion / Re: 100 questions to Askinadzi
« Last post by Ziljoe on May 06, 2026, 10:19:37 PM »
You still don't realize that Ivanov had irrefutable evidence of the crime - diaries and photographs. Not even AI can change that.

I find AI gives context to eras, culture and language. It does not give an answer, it can speed read a lot of documents that I can't but makes mistakes.

Unfortunately I do not know what irrefutable evidence Ivanov had. AI is not trying to change anything so don't panic. You keep mentioning the diaries and photos but give no evidence. You have to put your theory out for it to be scrutinized. I'm more than happy to read and engage.
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