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General Discussion / Re: Book "1079"

« Last post by GlennM on June 28, 2025, 02:30:02 PM »

The den and labaz (cache) have all been identified with confidence. I suggest you go to DyatlovPass.com and look at Teddy's latest post. She has re-arranged case photos in a way that makes sense for her. There is no particular connection between the fallen tree and the den or cache. As I understand it, the fallen tree is somewhere close to the cedar tree. The advantage of the fallen tree, other than inflicting all the wounds in one fell swoop, is
On the other hand, there is a very large logistical problem surrounding moving a fallen pine tree to get stuff out. This is for the hikers as well as the conspirators. I would imaging tent contents and the skis would all suffer from an impact . If the tent were set up in the woods, I would expect to find the on site remains of an outdoor cooking fire as well as a functional tent stove with ashes. Moreover, if the stove was used ( as I think it would ), the tent would likely catch fire.There are burns on several of the hikers, but no burns on the tent.

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General Discussion / Re: Vodka

« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on June 28, 2025, 09:30:17 AM »

Yes, AI. ChatGpt. I was just being goofy. A mystery bottle of booze would explain a lot.

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General Discussion / Re: Book "1079"

« Last post by ahabmyth on June 28, 2025, 09:06:27 AM »

Only hours left.

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General Discussion / Re: Book "1079"

« Last post by GlennM on June 28, 2025, 06:59:12 AM »

The top picture did not post, or I can not reference it.

Consider this, if an old canvas stitched together tent is getting blown apart in a fierce wind, the occupants might weigh the benefit of staying ve leaving. On the one hand, staying keeps them near their supplies, even if the essentials like skis can only be gotten to if the tent gets taken down. They have access to the stove, but not fuel. They have blankets and the canvas side of the tent for protection. They have each other.

On the other hand, remaining at the tent does not improve their circumstances. If they need heat, they must find wood. If they were impacted with a snow slide, it could happen again. If they all leave together, they may survive together. Ski boots have less benefit without skis. If the crisis develops in the dark (evidenced by flashlight on slope) and if wind driven snow obscures vision, the distance to the tree line may be under estimated. Once the decision to go down slope is agreed on, there is no good reason to turn around at any point and try to go back. That would not change the situation  for the better.The scouring effect of snow on the slope and buildup in the ravine attests to the conditions.

Their situation could be reduced to the choice of staying in a deteriorating tent gradually and eventually freezing, or trying their luck in the shelter of trees and a warming fire. When you are young, you are immortal and death is something for old people. Nature is indifferent to human opinion.

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General Discussion / Re: Book "1079"

« Last post by ahabmyth on June 28, 2025, 06:06:59 AM »

 I fixed the tent (found 6 tins of condensed milk underneath and it still tasted good). I counted 11 slash marks so whoever did this wasnt in that much of a rush to get outI wonder if it was Igor saying to himself maybe they will give them a new tent this time.

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General Discussion / Re: Book "1079"

« Last post by GlennM on June 27, 2025, 09:53:17 PM »

Ahabmyth, I enjoyed the humor and appreciate your assessment of the whole tree and tent conundrum. I would expect that once the occupants left the tent, there would also be the reaching back in for necessities until the situation got corrected and the tent got back into service. There is no evidence of this happening, unless Teddy's condensed milk tin qualiifies. I have my doubts.

Ultimately, the 1079 book is an other conspiracy theory/ coverup story. I feel that the premise for obfuscating the forest site and misdirecting rescuers to the slope of 1079 was a pointless exercise, fooling no one and accomplishing less. I favor a natural cause on 1079, a slab slide perhaps accelerated by a catabatic wind got them out of the tent. The wind itself may have ripped the tent over time. I think it more likely than a tree fall.

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General Discussion / Re: Book "1079"

« Last post by ahabmyth on June 27, 2025, 09:24:56 PM »

Thanks for that GlennM ,I am going to find it hard to find all my numbered questions in the case files.
 
I have already solved Jack the Ripper case .

Trees fell on all these 6 women and it just happened that the same guy was in the area and tried to help. He was a tree removalist that used to do artwork on tree stumps and was incredibly smart with a chainsaw.

 Anyhow back to the tree theory which IMHO was impossible.
"If" the two trees that the tent was anchored to were roughly the same size and I heard somewhere they were 15+ mtrs tall , the tent being 4mtrs long, the (now known fallen tree ) if it indeed was rotten and fell on the tent it wouldnt have fallen in a straight line as branches would force the tree to one side and perhaps hit nobody. Only people who were 2-3 mtrs away from the tent would be injured or crushed. And like you say there were no pine needles (which are hard to find on cedars) on the tent. And by the way if they rolled the tree off the injured they would find the rotten tree was dry enough for fuel.

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General Discussion / Re: Clothes

« Last post by GlennM on June 27, 2025, 08:47:44 PM »

Is it Igor? Is it the Ortoten hike? There are fingered gloves as well as mitts. My opinion is that the only person not wearing gloves pressed the shutter button, put on gloves, turned around and joined the hike.

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General Discussion / Re: Book "1079"

« Last post by GlennM on June 27, 2025, 08:40:49 PM »

Ahabmyth, congratulations on making a brief summary of the 1079 theory. Every one of your numbered questions has been addresses in the forum at sometime or another. The important difference is that in Teddy's 1079 theory, the unknown compelling force is the treefall. Alternately, on the slope where the tent was discovered,  the unknown compelling force is unidentified and an open question.

One would expect that a fallen tree would leave evidence upon the tent, and those injured inside would leave evidence upon the tent inside.There is nothing in the case files to suggest a tree fell on the tent, nor blood stains within the tent. The tent was kept for a long time before being discarded. In all that time, no one pursued that line of inquiry and looked form supporting evidence.

There is also a question about crushed material items not being found.

In either situation, slope or woods, there are actions you would expect reasonable people to do. In each case, there is nothing we can point to that says, " because of this one partical truth, be it a person, place or thing, the tragedy had to have happened this certain way". This is why sometimes we take the grand view and other times we pick nits. Do not dispair, the Jack the Ripper mystery is older.

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General Discussion / Re: Book "1079"

« Last post by ahabmyth on June 27, 2025, 07:59:17 PM »

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