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General Discussion / Re: Solved yet again - tent cut from inside.

« Last post by SURI on June 23, 2025, 04:19:08 AM »

I believe Zolotaryov's camera during the incident, but I also believe Krivonischenko's last photo. And if I put all these things together, a picture emerges of the whole event that is completely different from just an avalanche.

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General Discussion / Re: Solved yet again - tent cut from inside.

« Last post by SURI on June 23, 2025, 02:14:15 AM »

Some believe it's a camera, others think it's just a case. For example, Valentin Yakimenko has no doubts that Zolotaryov had a camera and was taking pictures with it on that fateful night. I agree with his opinion about the camera.

If Zolotaryov had only a case without a camera, it would have been mentioned even during the autopsy, because it would have remained on his body like a compass or like two watches at Tibo's.

But since the case was not recorded at all during the autopsy, even though it is visible in the photo, it is more than likely that the case also contained a camera, which of course was immediately confiscated and thus did not make it to the morgue, because they were eager to know what it contained.

Also, partially damaged negatives indicate that the camera was in the water with the bodies.

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General Discussion / Re: Solved yet again - tent cut from inside.

« Last post by Ziljoe on June 22, 2025, 02:15:41 PM »

https://dyatlovpass.com/camera-zolotaryov

Thank Suri.

I have read this article but it's just speculation as far as I understand, from a lone author . I don't think there any statements about zolotaryov being found with a camera . ( Obviously this doesn't mean he wasn't) .

I only ask because I know of the rumour that he had a camera, but I think it's just speculation because of the photo which looks like a camera case.

The figure has evidently been removed from the ravine and there were many people who witnessed the bodies being taken out of the ravine but I don't think anyone reported this , not so insignificant evidence. ?

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General Discussion / Re: Solved yet again - tent cut from inside.

« Last post by SURI on June 22, 2025, 09:12:38 AM »

https://dyatlovpass.com/camera-zolotaryov

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General Discussion / Re: Solved yet again - tent cut from inside.

« Last post by Ziljoe on June 22, 2025, 03:45:17 AM »

That's right, they didn't expect to be away from the tent for long. They found this out only on the slope.

And if I go even further, Zolotaryov could not have been among the first to be injured if he was taking photos in the forest and actually the whole way. He knew exactly what he needed the camera for. And the argument that he didn't have a camera, but only a case, is nonsense. Even the partially damaged negatives suggest something else, that the camera was in the water with the bodies and did not make it to the morgue just because they were eager to know what it contained.

Thank Suri, could you post the link to where zolotaryov had a camera around his neck in the case files?

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General Discussion / Re: Solved yet again - tent cut from inside.

« Last post by SURI on June 22, 2025, 12:13:21 AM »

That's right, they didn't expect to be away from the tent for long. They found this out only on the slope.

And if I go even further, Zolotaryov could not have been among the first to be injured if he was taking photos in the forest and actually the whole way. He knew exactly what he needed the camera for. And the argument that he didn't have a camera, but only a case, is nonsense. Even the partially damaged negatives suggest something else, that the camera was in the water with the bodies and did not make it to the morgue just because they were eager to know what it contained.

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General Discussion / Re: Solved yet again - tent cut from inside.

« Last post by GlennM on June 21, 2025, 12:42:15 PM »

I support the idea that a sudden snow slide,was motivation for the leaving of the tent. I account for the different levels of undress as signifying that the group did not expect to be away from the tent for long. This means they would return when it was reasonable that there would be no further calamity.. i can support the arguement that in the dark there was slip fall injuries over icy rocks. If that was the case,  then it would be logical and practical to move the injured downhill and to the shelter of a tree or ravine. It would be much harder to go back uphill if carrying injured and facing a headnwind. I would opt for the ravine first because the windbreak would be more immediate. Then, foraging for wood could commence. It would not be particularly disloyal to have a fire at the cedar while those in the ravine had none. If warming up helped dry wet clothes and warmed numbed hands, why not?

I think that Igor's attempt to regain the tent for supplies was logical and heroic, but they all died miserably in the cold, as their coprses attest.

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General Discussion / Re: Igor Did It

« Last post by Ziljoe on June 21, 2025, 05:09:26 AM »

What's very obvious OJ 72?

I really wish Ziljob would realize it. The Communist Ideal must be protected. Zolo didn't do anything but get the girls talking. How is Zolo a quitter when he has lived more? Zolo is a flawed human and he is the one that tried. The ones with less clothes "DIDNT GET THE WORK DONE." Dont expect to warm up by the fire with my pauper tent..

What am I to realise? I'm not sure what you mean by the communist ideal being protected . What is it being protected from ?

Tourists or hiking in the west has been a historical part of education and sports all over the world, long before Dyatlov pass. Accidents happened before and after 1959 under many ideologies.The weather , bad luck and/or bad planning seem to be the dominating factor.

I struggle with any reasoning that any individual or combination of a split in the group dynamics would cause the group in its entirety to all leave the tent and it's resources for some some sort of lesson for the communist ideal . Especially with the rather odd combination of footwear found on the hikers.

I'm not sure what you mean by referring to Zolo , are you replying to Eurocentric?

For context , I think it's good to read about other hikes in the area. The reports follow a similar standard, they write reports about their comrades efforts in responsibility, leadership during the hike, like a school report , good points and bad points . This is normal and done in the west too.

I can't rule out some internal competitiveness or friction , but I can't see it to the point of everyone leaving the tent , they would know the danger of this.

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General Discussion / Re: Solved yet again - tent cut from inside.

« Last post by ahabmyth on June 21, 2025, 02:34:17 AM »

As I pointed out the injury could have been muscular. The case for a crutch being found dosnt really stand up as it could have been discarded or broken up for firewood. I will be looking for injuries that could have been sustained by the hikers from the post mortem to try and find anything that could sustain this hypothesis.

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General Discussion / Re: An Argument For (Pro) A Fight

« Last post by OLD JEDI 72 on June 20, 2025, 08:09:00 PM »

Somebody nicked some booze on the train. I bet it was Igor.