• Personally I don't think the military would harm them in any way, they had no reason to.
• But if they did, they would also cover it up properly and not leave bodies lying around to be found.
Yes Manti, with Askenadzi I can say :
- I thought a lot about this and came to the conclusion that no spontaneous force could kill the nine healthy and fit guys. They could not just freeze in those conditions. Well, again, these inexplicable injuries. Don't ask me,
I don't know who or why were they murdered. But this seems to me the only explanation of their death.
But unlike Askenadzi I can say : You may ask me
because I have put together mostly historical arguments to also be able to tell :
- I thought a lot about this and came to the conclusion that it is completely absurd to assume that it was the KGB - or any other official structure organized by the Kremlin
- who murdered the 9 hikers.
Obviously, the murderers were (or were paid by) enemies of the USSR or of the Krushchev's regime. (the Thaw).
But it is necessary to have understood the difference between Stalin and Khrushchev, between the NKVD and the KGB, and to have at least looked at the secret report of February 24, 1956.
Only, all this is long and tedious to write in details. But you may ask me ....
............ trained killers on a mission ...................
the students would have no chance with their fists in close combat against professional killers.
Yes ! The students would have no chance with their fists in close combat against trained killers.
But the real question is to know who were these trained killers or by whom were they paid.
If the students had observed something there in the Urals they were not supposed to know about
It would rather be illegal activities like gold trafficking or criminal agreements for fraudulent misappropriation of materials
In any case nothing that could explain the intervention of the KGB to kill the hikers.
what was a potential threat to state security
60 years after the DPI we are sure that nothing existed, neither in the Auspiya valley, nor on the slope of Kholat Syakhl which could have been a potential threat to state security .
Strategic issues affecting state security : Atomic bombs A and H, elaboration of strategic materials, Plutonium, Titanium for submarines, chemical weapons, biological weapons, missiles and aircraft, automatics, radar, electronics, manufacturing process of titanium metallurgy for submarines.....
require large installations with a lot of delicate or complicated equipment and a lot of skilled personnel.
Except in exceptional cases, even if he or she had held in his hand a thick report bearing on each page the red TOP SECRET stamp, a friend, family member or spouse would not have understood anything about the symbols and formulas representing the phase changes of Plutonium 239.
I have already provided some arguments to support the impossibility that the hickers could have represented a threat to the security of the state.
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Sensitive information is never left freely in the wild but is guarded by men armed with guns in tightly guarded locations.
Those responsible for keeping the secret know at all times who is entrusted with sensitive documents or samples, that must be locked in a secure vault when not in use. In the USSR sensitive information was guarded in certain areas of the secret cities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_city
For France, I can give you my personal experience on the treatment of secrecy for the first French H-bomb, Canopus, on August 24, 1968.
But I am afraid that this takes us away from the "WHO" and "WHY" issues of the DPI massacre.
I worked at the Limeil CEA - DAM center from 1966 to 1971
CEA = Commission for Atomic Energy.
French Atomic Energy Commission has now become "French Alternative Energies and Atomic Energy Commission
DAM = Military applications division.
DAM builds the nuclear weapons of the French military
Limeil was essentially devoted to Theoretical Research on Nuclear Charges and to the Development of Theoretical and Experimental Means necessary for their study (lasers and computers).
Using lasers, the center studied laser-matter interactions, including inertial confinement fusion, of great military interest. In 1996 the government announced the permanent closure of the Centre de Limeil,
but the buildings remained and the trees grew.
On Google Earth, I just checked that the Limeil center remains blurred despite the declassification.
Position = 48° 44' 28" N and 2° 29' 10" E
On January 27, 1966, the President of the Republic (General de Gaulle) had visited the center of Limeil and had reprimanded the director Pierre Billaud.Stop worrying about the A-bomb (fission: Uranium 235 or Plutonium 239). Now I need the H-bomb (fusion: Lithium 6 deuteride) since the USA, the USSR and the UK have already had it for a long time.
(Of course these are not the exact words).
The director Pierre Billaud (left) wears his identification badge but not General de Gaulle (President of the French Republic and head of the army).
But the H-bomb is more complicated than the A-bomb !
The Wikipedia article gives a good insight into the subject (all information is correct but declassified).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon
The Limeil center (commune of Limeil-Brévannes) where I worked from October 1966 to 1971. You can guess the fence that surrounds the different buildings.
The filtering of the entries was done at the guard post on the left corner.
The photo found by chance on the internet dates from 1966.
My building is in the foreground and slightly to the right.
My office was on the second floor, the second window from the left of the building, above the first-floor window with an orange curtain.
Here is what I saw from my window, the photo is from 2009 and the trees have grown !
Excuse me for these memories of youth from 56 years ago ...
There were there Confidential Defense, Secret Defense and Top Secret reports and it is to make understand that it does not look like the Auspiya valley