Why Eichar's Storm Generated Infrasound Theory Is Imposible.
Excuse me, you could not tell, what is it such especial phenomenon as “ Eichar's Storm”?
First off I respect to all his research, time and cost he put in to write his book Dead Mountain. I posted that indicated the Yeti were involved in someway knowing what I know from direct encounters with our Canadian Sasquatch. So lets chat about natually occuring infrasound since the thread mentions it and not just the Yeti.
This very correct statement, except 3 small remarks:
1. D.Eicher itself is not the scientist in the field of acoustics, especially in acoustics over low frequencies.
2. Donnie in the book wrote much from my words and if you read its book there it is written.
3.Unfortunately Yeti meanwhile is not the fact in a science, therefore its any properties it is not known. There are many conversations on it. But it is no more than conversations because to check up there it is possible nothing. Belief questions to …, it is destiny of church. It seems to me that for this purpose what to understand that with Dyatlov group it was necessary to use only the scientific facts. Otherwise there will be many conversations, but there will be no result.
Imho it's very unlikely almost impossible if it was a natually occuring wind genereated infrasound winter storm.
I wrote recently about it very in detail. There all precisely and with reference to that place and by that is written conditions which were by calculation with the greatest probability.http://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=312.msg2571#new
Reply #19 December 19, 2018, 4:53:02 AM
Consider the topography and even if high winds hitting Boot Rock it would of affected the rescuers as well. It also would not just occur on Feb 2 1959 but often if the terrain was perfect for it. Eichar went to location Kholat Syakhl Boot Rock and eastern sloap where the tent was located in winter. Supposedly he got a call from a scientist at NOAH and a scientist there might of said it was possible? Is that conclusion from the scientist written somewhere? Okay so he's got an unproven theory.
1.Any group did not put tent on the same place for the past of 60 years. More precisely, there was one group in 1999, but the place at them was absolutely another.
2.Donnie Eicher went to Dr. Al Bedard at NOAA Earth System Research Laboratory himself. Specially for reception of the information necessary to him.
3.Than the opinion of the scientist which is written in magazine, from same opinion which is simply stated personally to the book`s author differs?
4.Than not proved theory about the known physical phenomenon, where are known all parametres, which are necessary for its presence (and they can be checked up!), differs from the theory of the unknown creature of a being which authentically nobody saw also which properties nobody knows? So also anything it is impossible to check up.
Did he return to Mt.Kholat and try to record and infrasound readings? Did he attempt to record any wind readings at all to support his conclussions before making that leap?
I think that you badly imagine to oneself (or suitable), complexity and cost of research of such problem which put before others.
I did such calculations about what is necessary the equipment, what is the time it will occupy and how many it can cost (on 2014). It turned out that supervision on a place at least in a current of 2 full winters, approximately 4 … 5 employees in the rank of PhD and professors, approximately nearby 20 persons of the other personnel, constant departures into place at least once a week for supervision over the equipment and corrections of its work is required. Many special blocks of registration (approximately 12 … 15) which stand too very expensively besides are necessary. I will not speak about all details, and I will tell only about cost. At me it turned out approximately from $2 million to $3 million. Tell me please, who will pay what for such money?
He should of returned to location in mid winter and obtained some audio evidence for the scientist at NOAH to confirm.
And how you represent it to yourselves? I think that you even there not so well know by possible winter conditions. Here for example, some supervision on my video:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FaZ2RSUdFtdQLyCZXZBn0w1L01uB22cr?usp=sharing
It is not the most bad weather.
There is no evidence to support his conclusion.
It is only because it is the writer also does not want or does not cannot give such money for this purpose, what to you it to prove?
So Imo he was over generous with "Writters Creative License" to wrap up his book and create hype to sell it.
The question consists in how this physical phenomenon is shown on a place of events. Therefore its activity as writer does not concern that problem which we here discuss.
411 From Infrasound Monitoring Network
Infrasound is produced by a variety of natural and man-made sources: exploding volcanoes, earthquakes, meteors, storms and auroras in the natural world; nuclear, mining and large chemical explosions, as well as aircraft and rocket launches in the man-made arena.
There was no record or evidence of a rocket launch or explosion, earthquack or any other such event in that region for Infrasound bombardment that night or prior. The square piece of metal found could of been there for awhile.
It is all the general theory, and they should discuss exclusively practical questions only connected with the facts which were during events and on a place of events discussed by us. The facts of earthquake and other, have been fixed at that time, in this place?
A snip of Teddy's TOPO map of the area. I'am not a scientist but from a birds eye view it indicates that there's nothing special about the terrain compare to anywhere else on the bigger map.
It is not necessary so simply to approach to challenges. On a place it is all not how on a picture. Here (on our paper and on computer) all is smooth and warmly.
If so then recording infrasound on location wouldn't be that hard to obtain. I have an app on my cell ph that does it.
Tell me pleas, in you cell ph do not have recipe as it is possible to win nuclear war (or at least to survive there)?
It is problem by 2 or 3 order (in 100 or 1000 times) it is more difficult than it can seem at first sight.
Let see any supporting evidence for wind generated infrasound at that location. Thanks
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You offer autumn ridiculous things.
1.It not map, and very primitive scheme.
2.It at all does not cover area of the mountain Holatchahl.
3.Even on topographic maps more vast scale, for example:
It to make difficult, but it is possible to find a proper place. But it demands special preparation.
On this card I have designated borders of which that scheme you offered (framework of violet colour)
And that place which us should interest (framework of red colour).
And as has designated a place where there was tent Dyatlov group.
If you well understand that question which we discuss easily will find those conditions which us can interest.