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Author Topic: The exhumation is not Semyon Zolotarev  (Read 20217 times)

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May 12, 2024, 04:44:09 AM
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WinterLeia


Ziljoe, good to read your reply. Do you get the sense that Zolo's exhumation moves the needle on this mystery? Assuming the remains are his, I suppose nothing but bone was found. No embedded rocks, no rocket, nor bomb shards, no lead and no suspiciously high levels of radiation on hands or anywhere else. I have a distinct feeling this thread reinforces those who advocate for conspiracy, seeking proof from those bones.

If I read the forensic report on DyatlovPass.com correctly, he was dead before any healing could commence. And that points to post mortem crushing injuries.

I try to keep an open mind. It would be great if there were obvious discrepancies, like a completely different description from the autopsy of the teeth for example. Such facts would guide us all in a similar direction, but alas, we have nothing conclusive.

I do look at the photos and try to find anything that would contradict the statements, autopsy and reports etc but ultimately everything seems to be as said. For example, Zina has a comb in her pocket with two broken teeth, this is reported and we can see it in a photo. Slobodin is reported to have had two insoles under his jumper, in his thawed photo by the window, we can see a raised area under the jumper that is most likely the insoles. For me, It's this accuracy that makes it difficult to believe that there's any cover up and by that , I mean with regards to those doing the searching and autopsies , dental observations, skull fractures, missing eyes/tongue etc , it's all reported to be seen and known by the public when it could have been hidden. The details are there and they seem to match up in the most part, including the diary entries , chronological order of events. We just don't have an answer for why the hikers would leave their tent poorly equipped, all we have is nature to blame but I fully understand the approach that it may have been outsiders , but again, there's nothing conclusive.

I'm not expert enough to understand the autopsy  and I'm not sure about when healing starts or stops. Could the cause of the rib fractures be at the actual time of death? If so , could that also reflect the same results of there being no healing?.

My point being, if it was a tree that crushed them or the collapse of a snow cave in the ravine, this would or could have been instant death? .
There are some cases where that has happened. I know that two of the victims of the 1980 eruption of Mount Saint Helens were killed by a falling tree. But I don’t know if that’s a good comparison. They suffered head injuries, not broken ribs. Also, the force with which the tree hit them might have played a part. I know the winds on Dyatlov pass are strong and very deadly. But I highly doubt they compare to the blast from a stratovolcano that mows trees down like they were blades of grass. In all the other cases I found, the victims either lingered for awhile. Or it couldn’t be determined because they were trapped and rescuers had to spend valuable time getting to them.

It’s kind of hard to tell, though, with natural disasters if the person died instantly, just because of the pandemonium that ensues in its wake. It would probably be in the autopsy report, if they did an autopsy. But I highly doubt those are accessible to the general public.

Personally, though, I don’t see any reason to question the medical examiner, who was very clear about the fact that they did not die of exposure and probably lingered for a time afterwards. I’m not the medical expert. He is. And the only reason he would lie about something like that is if there was a cover-up, which is fine if you think outsiders were involved, but not very conducive to someone being killed by a quirk of nature. No one is going to charge an avalanche or a tree with murder.
 
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May 12, 2024, 05:58:35 AM
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GlennM


This is Zolotaryov's rib cage. At the exhumation he is even missing a whole floating rib. But then again the second rib on our right doesn't belong there, it is a piece of a larger rib.
In any case there is no such thing as "no piece is missing so this is not Zolotaryov".



Those teeth, how white they are.
I still marvel that these bones were exhumed, laid on a tarp and arranged in a graveyard. What a very liberal way ofmdoing things.
We don't have to say everything that comes into our head.