Positions of bodies

[sarapuk]

It appears that the unknown compelling force wasnt just at the tent site but also down at the forest site. That force was present in the area for some time, the time that the group left the tent and the time of their demise.

Correct observation. This force was everywhere the tourists moved. It began to show its power when the tourists left the tent and ceased to exist when the tourists died.

I think this was the unknown force's purpose! I mean, they wanted the young people to die like this. Because they could have killed them all in the tent much earlier. Or even days before... They wanted the event to be staged this way. This way, the whole world would talk about this horrific and interesting event. This way, they would send a message to the whole world!!! YOU ARE NOT ALONE AND YOU ARE BEING SURVEYALE!!! Because the unknown force definitely planned this scene. Unfortunately, they toyed with the young people like a cat with a mouse!!! All of the young people are kind-hearted and passionate about life. And I also think they were specially chosen.

It's not possible to say if such a force toyed with them like a cat would. A force could do so, but we have no way of knowing the reason. It's difficult enough trying to establish that something possibly paranormal was the reason for the demise of the Dyatlov Group.

[sarapuk]

CONTINUE: The Coercive Force wasn't far away. It was nearby, but it was lurking, watching them from afar!!! Then, one by one, it killed them all. These killings may have started with Igor, who was 300 meters away from the Sedir. Meanwhile, Rüstem and Zina may have started running. Rüstem, a good runner, managed to escape 600 meters from the Sedir, but he too suffered a severe blow to the side of his head, fell, and died there. Zina, on the other hand, managed to run 800 meters away, but the sudden impact also knocked her to the ground and her death ensued.How long does it take for a person to walk 200-300 meters uphill, on snow-covered ground, in the cold, and in the dark? If we can answer this, we'll know how long it takes for Coercive Force to kill a person. A 200-300-meter walk takes 2-3 minutes at a normal pace. Rustem and Zina were probably running when they were running. But the snowy ground, the night, the cold, and their bare feet slowed them down. And even though they were running, they were able to escape at walking speed. So, they only got away in 2-3 minutes. Coercive Force must have killed Igor in 2-3 minutes and caught up with Rustem!!!(?)So if the Coercive Force killed Igor in 1 minute, it probably must have caught up with Rustem in 1-1.5 minutes!(?) So the Coercive Force isn't very fast!!! It has a certain speed. Because there's a pretty long distance between Igor, Rustem and Zina. And even though it was a cold, snowy night and barefoot!!! So stimate the Coercive Force's speed to be 15-20 km/h(?) But it's still an impressive speed under those circumstances.I'm so sorry that the translation isn't good. I apologize to everyone.

It appears that the unknown compelling force wasnt just at the tent site but also down at the forest site. That force was present in the area for some time, the time that the group left the tent and the time of their demise.

Yes, he might have stayed for a while. Maybe he was watching for the fireballs. Orange balls. I think the orange fireballs were djinn. The djinn might have been curious about the incident and came. I don't think the orange balls were directly related to the incident. I think an unknown compelling force was also watching the djinn. Then he must have moved away...

Well, perhaps the djinn, as you say, was the unknown compelling force!

[amashilu]

I have read many times the speculation that Zina, Igor, and possibly Rustem were the last to die, possibly as they made their way back to the tent after spending time trying to help the others. And that may well be true. But one thing that always seems odd is "Dyatlov is the only one whose cadaveric spots match the position in which he was found (on the back). All others do not match."

Does this mean that Igor ran around rearranging all the other bodies before he succumbed to hypothermia? If not, then who turned them over? Rustem and Zina look like they are lying in "dynamic" positions that seem to indicate they were crawling in the snow, but not if their bodies were turned into this crawling position after death.
[PS: I am aware of the controversy surrounding the question of these livor mortis spots.]

[ilahiyol]

CONTINUE: The Coercive Force wasn't far away. It was nearby, but it was lurking, watching them from afar!!! Then, one by one, it killed them all. These killings may have started with Igor, who was 300 meters away from the Sedir. Meanwhile, Rüstem and Zina may have started running. Rüstem, a good runner, managed to escape 600 meters from the Sedir, but he too suffered a severe blow to the side of his head, fell, and died there. Zina, on the other hand, managed to run 800 meters away, but the sudden impact also knocked her to the ground and her death ensued.How long does it take for a person to walk 200-300 meters uphill, on snow-covered ground, in the cold, and in the dark? If we can answer this, we'll know how long it takes for Coercive Force to kill a person. A 200-300-meter walk takes 2-3 minutes at a normal pace. Rustem and Zina were probably running when they were running. But the snowy ground, the night, the cold, and their bare feet slowed them down. And even though they were running, they were able to escape at walking speed. So, they only got away in 2-3 minutes. Coercive Force must have killed Igor in 2-3 minutes and caught up with Rustem!!!(?)So if the Coercive Force killed Igor in 1 minute, it probably must have caught up with Rustem in 1-1.5 minutes!(?) So the Coercive Force isn't very fast!!! It has a certain speed. Because there's a pretty long distance between Igor, Rustem and Zina. And even though it was a cold, snowy night and barefoot!!! So stimate the Coercive Force's speed to be 15-20 km/h(?) But it's still an impressive speed under those circumstances.I'm so sorry that the translation isn't good. I apologize to everyone.

It appears that the unknown compelling force wasnt just at the tent site but also down at the forest site. That force was present in the area for some time, the time that the group left the tent and the time of their demise.

Yes, he might have stayed for a while. Maybe he was watching for the fireballs. Orange balls. I think the orange fireballs were djinn. The djinn might have been curious about the incident and came. I don't think the orange balls were directly related to the incident. I think an unknown compelling force was also watching the djinn. Then he must have moved away...

Well, perhaps the djinn, as you say, was the unknown compelling force!

I don't think it's a jinn. Because jinn don't make long-term plans like this. They attack immediately and directly! There's a very ingenious plan involved in this incident! And secondly, jinn are invisible to humans! Yet, there were peepholes in the tent. So, it can't be a jinn. But the unknown force definitely has jinn-like abilities. It doesn't leave tracks in the snow and can disguise itself like a jinn. And it's strong and fast like a jinn!!! I think the orange balls are jinn, but they didn't attack the young people, but they came to the scene from far away out of curiosity.

[Senior Maldonado]

But one thing that always seems odd is "Dyatlov is the only one whose cadaveric spots match the position in which he was found (on the back). All others do not match.

Krivonischenko should be the second one. Candaveric spots mismatch of the position of most of the bodies makes to think that the corpses were moved. And we immediatly come to the concept of outsiders, who re-arranged the scene. I do not think that was the case. Nobody was there, when the group perished. Yes, outsiders came a bit later, on about February 4-5, but they did not touch the bodies.  Candaveric spots? They can be ignored for simplicity, I guess. Blood stops to flow, when it is frozen.

[amashilu]

Yes, outsiders came a bit later, on about February 4-5, but they did not touch the bodies. 

Senior Maldonado, who came on February 4-5?

[Senior Maldonado]

Senior Maldonado, who came on February 4-5?

With great level of confidence we can say that empty tent of the Dyatlov's group was discovered earlier than February 26th.

In the case files Ivanov writes that the hikers died on February 1st, late in the eveining. I am not sure if he knew exactly, but I tend to believe this timing. The hikers started to put up the tent at about 5pm on February 1st, and by midnight all were dead. Officially, the tent was found on February 26th by Mikhail Sharavin and Boris Slobtsov. First bodies were found on February 27th. However, in the case files we can see Mr.Popov's interrogation document dated February 6th. Already that time somebody started to clarify who were those hikers, who entered that part of Ural mountains. This suggests to think that the empty tent was discovered unofficially by February 6th, and the authorities were alarmed that a group of hikers unexpectedly penetrated sensitive area.

In my view, military search party arrived to the slope on February 4-5 to evacuate "flying object" and discovered outsiders' presense at the spot -- empty tent.

[sarapuk]

CONTINUE: The Coercive Force wasn't far away. It was nearby, but it was lurking, watching them from afar!!! Then, one by one, it killed them all. These killings may have started with Igor, who was 300 meters away from the Sedir. Meanwhile, Rüstem and Zina may have started running. Rüstem, a good runner, managed to escape 600 meters from the Sedir, but he too suffered a severe blow to the side of his head, fell, and died there. Zina, on the other hand, managed to run 800 meters away, but the sudden impact also knocked her to the ground and her death ensued.How long does it take for a person to walk 200-300 meters uphill, on snow-covered ground, in the cold, and in the dark? If we can answer this, we'll know how long it takes for Coercive Force to kill a person. A 200-300-meter walk takes 2-3 minutes at a normal pace. Rustem and Zina were probably running when they were running. But the snowy ground, the night, the cold, and their bare feet slowed them down. And even though they were running, they were able to escape at walking speed. So, they only got away in 2-3 minutes. Coercive Force must have killed Igor in 2-3 minutes and caught up with Rustem!!!(?)So if the Coercive Force killed Igor in 1 minute, it probably must have caught up with Rustem in 1-1.5 minutes!(?) So the Coercive Force isn't very fast!!! It has a certain speed. Because there's a pretty long distance between Igor, Rustem and Zina. And even though it was a cold, snowy night and barefoot!!! So stimate the Coercive Force's speed to be 15-20 km/h(?) But it's still an impressive speed under those circumstances.I'm so sorry that the translation isn't good. I apologize to everyone.

It appears that the unknown compelling force wasnt just at the tent site but also down at the forest site. That force was present in the area for some time, the time that the group left the tent and the time of their demise.

Yes, he might have stayed for a while. Maybe he was watching for the fireballs. Orange balls. I think the orange fireballs were djinn. The djinn might have been curious about the incident and came. I don't think the orange balls were directly related to the incident. I think an unknown compelling force was also watching the djinn. Then he must have moved away...

Well, perhaps the djinn, as you say, was the unknown compelling force!

I don't think it's a jinn. Because jinn don't make long-term plans like this. They attack immediately and directly! There's a very ingenious plan involved in this incident! And secondly, jinn are invisible to humans! Yet, there were peepholes in the tent. So, it can't be a jinn. But the unknown force definitely has jinn-like abilities. It doesn't leave tracks in the snow and can disguise itself like a jinn. And it's strong and fast like a jinn!!! I think the orange balls are jinn, but they didn't attack the young people, but they came to the scene from far away out of curiosity.

Obviously, it's difficult to say because we are dealing with an unknown force. Probably best described as paranormal. Jiin comes under the paranormal umbrella. So do Aliens in general.

[sarapuk]

But one thing that always seems odd is "Dyatlov is the only one whose cadaveric spots match the position in which he was found (on the back). All others do not match.

Krivonischenko should be the second one. Candaveric spots mismatch of the position of most of the bodies makes to think that the corpses were moved. And we immediatly come to the concept of outsiders, who re-arranged the scene. I do not think that was the case. Nobody was there, when the group perished. Yes, outsiders came a bit later, on about February 4-5, but they did not touch the bodies.  Candaveric spots? They can be ignored for simplicity, I guess. Blood stops to flow, when it is frozen.

The unusual circumstances of the event play a part in the medical prognosis. So we have to be extra careful with trying to arrive at any conclusions where those Cadaveric spots are concerned.

[sarapuk]

Senior Maldonado, who came on February 4-5?

With great level of confidence we can say that empty tent of the Dyatlov's group was discovered earlier than February 26th.

In the case files Ivanov writes that the hikers died on February 1st, late in the eveining. I am not sure if he knew exactly, but I tend to believe this timing. The hikers started to put up the tent at about 5pm on February 1st, and by midnight all were dead. Officially, the tent was found on February 26th by Mikhail Sharavin and Boris Slobtsov. First bodies were found on February 27th. However, in the case files we can see Mr.Popov's interrogation document dated February 6th. Already that time somebody started to clarify who were those hikers, who entered that part of Ural mountains. This suggests to think that the empty tent was discovered unofficially by February 6th, and the authorities were alarmed that a group of hikers unexpectedly penetrated sensitive area.

In my view, military search party arrived to the slope on February 4-5 to evacuate "flying object" and discovered outsiders' presense at the spot -- empty tent.

This is your level of confidence, not everyone's. No proof whatsoever that the tent was discovered earlier than February 26th.