soviet era cross country ski bindings

[tenne]

Does anyone have any information about what type of cross country ski binding would allow the foot to be free at the toes and the heel? I know nothing about soviet cross country skis. The right foot on this cropped photo is what I am referring to.

[tenne]

Not sure how many people on here have done actual cross country skiing but the way a person cross country skis is to have the toes in a binding on the front and the heel free so you can 'walk'

in this photo is appears the toes and heel are free and I've never seen a binding like that

[GlennM]

I believe the toe is attacked, but the ski pole obscures a clear view.

[Ziljoe]

There are threads that discuss boots and attachments in the forum. Looks standard to me. If I remember correctly , one of the group preferred to ski in the soft boots.

[tenne]

I believe the toe is attacked, but the ski pole obscures a clear view.

toe is not attached. it should be held tight to the ski and unable to lift up, only the heel is free and able to lift up in the bindings I use. there is space between the bottom of the toes and the ski

[tenne]

There are threads that discuss boots and attachments in the forum. Looks standard to me. If I remember correctly , one of the group preferred to ski in the soft boots.

Thank you, I will look again.

[Ziljoe]

Hi tenne, this photo shoes the articulation of the heel lifting from the toe. I have a bit of ski experience , what's is raising your question about the photo?


https://dyatlovpass.com/resources/340/gallery/Dyatlov-pass-unknown-camera-film5-10.jpg

[tenne]

Hi tenne, this photo shoes the articulation of the heel lifting from the toe. I have a bit of ski experience , what's is raising your question about the photo?


https://dyatlovpass.com/resources/340/gallery/Dyatlov-pass-unknown-camera-film5-10.jpg

yes, the heel lifts off the ski, the toe stays firmly attached. in the other photo, the toe is clearly off the ski and the heel is attached?  you can see between the boot and the ski. I have never seen bindings like that and was curious what they were.

I can't see how a person can ski with the toe free so I am interested in learning how it would work. especially as i have an issue with the ball of my feet and a non toe binding ski would make me able to ski again

[Manti]

Not sure how many people on here have done actual cross country skiing but the way a person cross country skis is to have the toes in a binding on the front and the heel free so you can 'walk'

in this photo is appears the toes and heel are free and I've never seen a binding like that

I think the photo shows just that... the toes are attached. It does look like they are not, because there's snow on top of the ski. Maybe I'm mistaken

[Ziljoe]

Hi tenne, this photo shoes the articulation of the heel lifting from the toe. I have a bit of ski experience , what's is raising your question about the photo?


https://dyatlovpass.com/resources/340/gallery/Dyatlov-pass-unknown-camera-film5-10.jpg

yes, the heel lifts off the ski, the toe stays firmly attached. in the other photo, the toe is clearly off the ski and the heel is attached?  you can see between the boot and the ski. I have never seen bindings like that and was curious what they were.

I can't see how a person can ski with the toe free so I am interested in learning how it would work. especially as i have an issue with the ball of my feet and a non toe binding ski would make me able to ski again

Tenne ,the photo you show , to my eye , displays the toe attached and the heel raised. I don't understand the problem with the ball of your foot. Cross country skiing has the toe attached with a free heel but keeps lateral movement in place. Down hill skiing means your whole foot is attached to the ski. Given your Canadian experience you would know this .

Even partial foot amputee's can ski and adapt to skiing , even an amputee trans tibial/femoral can have modifications. Tele mark skiing is a mechanical concept to the human anatomy and biomechanical.

[Ziljoe]

It looks ok to me given the human anatomy.

[Почемучка]

It looks ok to me given the human anatomy.

https://honzales.livejournal.com/277967.html

[tenne]

" I don't understand the problem with the ball of your foot."

Morton's neuroma involves a thickening of the tissue around one of the nerves leading to your toes. This can cause a sharp, burning pain in the ball of your foot. You may have stinging, burning or numbness in the affected toes.

[Ziljoe]

" I don't understand the problem with the ball of your foot."

Morton's neuroma involves a thickening of the tissue around one of the nerves leading to your toes. This can cause a sharp, burning pain in the ball of your foot. You may have stinging, burning or numbness in the affected toes.

Well get your foot cut off, then you will be able to ski and have a better functioning life for fitness. You can't tellmark ski from your heel.

Do you still think the toe is not attached to the ski in the first post from your photo? Or is this now a personal health advice forum?

[Почемучка]

Well get your foot cut off, then you will be able to ski and have a better functioning life for fitness. You can't tellmark ski from your heel.

Do you still think the toe is not attached to the ski in the first post from your photo? Or is this now a personal health advice forum?

Сэр Ziljoe, браво...Будем дружить домами разведками?
Sir Ziljoe, bravo... Shall we be friends with houses intelligence agencies?

[Ziljoe]

" I don't understand the problem with the ball of your foot."

Morton's neuroma involves a thickening of the tissue around one of the nerves leading to your toes. This can cause a sharp, burning pain in the ball of your foot. You may have stinging, burning or numbness in the affected toes.

Yeah, it says this in Google word for word?.

You don't  state ,"I may " or "my foot".....

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mortons-neuroma/symptoms-causes/syc-20351935

I think the above link   is where you copied and pasted from.

[tenne]

I got exactly what I wanted from this thread so thank you

[Ziljoe]

I got exactly what I wanted from this thread so thank you

Come back tenne, what were we supposed to see in your first post/photo?

I feel I've been teased for a climax and I have not had satisfaction. You leave me frustrated.....

[Ziljoe]

Well get your foot cut off, then you will be able to ski and have a better functioning life for fitness. You can't tellmark ski from your heel.

Do you still think the toe is not attached to the ski in the first post from your photo? Or is this now a personal health advice forum?

Сэр Ziljoe, браво...Будем дружить домами разведками?
Sir Ziljoe, bravo... Shall we be friends with houses intelligence agencies?

Yes, I love" ice age".

[Почемучка]

Yes, I love" ice age".

И он как раз в тему к Перевалу Дятлова. Лед, снег. Видели этот фильм?
Один из первых фильмов на той местности
And he is just in the subject of the Dyatlov Pass. Ice, snow. Have you seen this movie?
One of the first films in the area

[Ziljoe]

Yes, I love" ice age".

И он как раз в тему к Перевалу Дятлова. Лед, снег. Видели этот фильм?
Один из первых фильмов на той местности
And he is just in the subject of the Dyatlov Pass. Ice, snow. Have you seen this movie?
One of the first films in the area

No,not yet. I'm still reading your link. :0) something to get my teeth into.

[GlennM]

Addressing how is more productive than addressing why. Congrats.

[Олег Таймень]

Does anyone have any information about what type of cross country ski binding would allow the foot to be free at the toes and the heel? I know nothing about soviet cross country skis. The right foot on this cropped photo is what I am referring to.

Применялись крепления образца РККА ( рабоче-крестьянской красной армии ). Их делали ещё до войны по немецкой технологии. Такие крепления применяли и группы туристов и поисковики. Вот я нашёл в 2021 году обломки лыж с такими креплениями в трёх метрах от четвёрки тел в ручье, под камнями, на глубине 10-15 сантиметров. https://www.kp.ru/daily/28310/4451745/
Mountings of the Red Army model (Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army) were used. They were made before the war using German technology. Such mounts were used by groups of tourists and search engines. In 2021, I found fragments of skis with such bindings three meters from four bodies in a stream, under stones, at a depth of 10-15 centimeters. https://www.kp.ru/daily/28310/4451745/

[Олег Таймень]

Применялись крепления образца РККА ( рабоче-крестьянской красной армии ). Их делали ещё до войны по немецкой технологии. Такие крепления применяли и группы туристов и поисковики. Вот я нашёл в 2021 году обломки лыж с такими креплениями в трёх метрах от четвёрки тел в ручье, под камнями, на глубине 10-15 сантиметров. https://www.kp.ru/daily/28310/4451745/
Mountings of the Red Army model (Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army) were used. They were made before the war using German technology. Such mounts were used by groups of tourists and search engines. In 2021, I found fragments of skis with such bindings three meters from four bodies in a stream, under stones, at a depth of 10-15 centimeters. https://www.kp.ru/daily/28310/4451745/

Металлические крепления из толстого металла очень сильно деформированы. Для подобной деформации требуется очень сильное воздействие, которое можно сравнить только с автоаварией или ударной взрывной волной.
Thick metal fastenings are very strongly deformed. For such a deformation, a very strong impact is required, which can only be compared with a car accident or a shock blast wave.

[Почемучка]

Металлические крепления из толстого металла очень сильно деформированы. Для подобной деформации требуется очень сильное воздействие, которое можно сравнить только с автоаварией или ударной взрывной волной.
Thick metal fastenings are very strongly deformed. For such a deformation, a very strong impact is required, which can only be compared with a car accident or a shock blast wave.

И какая взрывная волна и транспортная модель гоняла по ручью поисковиков?
Все лыжи туристов группы Дятлова пересчитаны на десять рядов. Куда забирались из-под палатки: известно.
Вам славы мадемуазель Варфоломеевская ночь  - захотелось?

And what kind of blast wave and transport model drove the search engines along the stream?
All skis of tourists of the Dyatlov group are recalculated into ten rows. Where they climbed from under the tent: it is known.
Do you want glory Mademoiselle Bartholomew's Night?

[Олег Таймень]

И какая взрывная волна и транспортная модель гоняла по ручью поисковиков?

Да я не против. Поисковики обломали две лыжины выше и ниже креплений. А сами крепления расплющили молотком и закопали рядом с четвёркой тел. Кто это сделал, выясняю.

[Manti]

И он как раз в тему к Перевалу Дятлова. Лед, снег. Видели этот фильм?
Один из первых фильмов на той местности
And he is just in the subject of the Dyatlov Pass. Ice, snow. Have you seen this movie?
One of the first films in the area

This is art 

[Олег Таймень]

Все лыжи туристов группы Дятлова пересчитаны на десять рядов.

Правильно посчитали количество запасных лыж у группы ?

[Manti]

Применялись крепления образца РККА ( рабоче-крестьянской красной армии ). Их делали ещё до войны по немецкой технологии. Такие крепления применяли и группы туристов и поисковики. Вот я нашёл в 2021 году обломки лыж с такими креплениями в трёх метрах от четвёрки тел в ручье, под камнями, на глубине 10-15 сантиметров. https://www.kp.ru/daily/28310/4451745/
Mountings of the Red Army model (Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army) were used. They were made before the war using German technology. Such mounts were used by groups of tourists and search engines. In 2021, I found fragments of skis with such bindings three meters from four bodies in a stream, under stones, at a depth of 10-15 centimeters. https://www.kp.ru/daily/28310/4451745/

Металлические крепления из толстого металла очень сильно деформированы. Для подобной деформации требуется очень сильное воздействие, которое можно сравнить только с автоаварией или ударной взрывной волной.
Thick metal fastenings are very strongly deformed. For such a deformation, a very strong impact is required, which can only be compared with a car accident or a shock blast wave.

This is probably the single most important finding about the Dyatlov Pass Incident I've ever come across. Whose could these ski bindings be? Someone from the search party? There's no record that anyone suffered a skiing accident during the search. From the Dyatlov group themselves? Were the skis under their tent staged then? Or is this from one of their spare skis? Or someone else happened to have an accident in that exact same spot?

Avalanches can bend metal like that but I have a hard time imagining an avalanche in the ravine area... it's full of trees that would stop the snow. Or maybe there were less trees in '59? Other than that, a bomb? There in the forest in the middle of nowhere? Maybe a forgotten mine from the World Wars and one of them skied on it? But would they go skiing after setting up the tent and starting to have dinner?


So many questions. But please share your interpretation if you have any.

[GlennM]

I see something resembling narrow leather straps. I see something in black that looks like a modern nylon molded strap rectangle. I see a couple of wood pieces. I see many objects which I can not begin to identify. Would leather last 60 years? I really wish I knew what this material was supposed to be at one time.