WAB, I have this coordinates from KAN 2012 expedition. If you apply the elevations on your map the contour distance of 4m can't be true. It is hard to match even with 5m.
Cedar N61°45'53.20" E59°27'17.80" 647m
Mouth of creek 1: N61°45'55.66" E59°27'13.36" 621m
Mouth of creek 2 N61°45'59.40" E59°27'15.40" 618m
Р4 N61°45'53.85" E59°27'14.47" 641m
The bodies N61°45'53.93" E59°27'14.64" 636m
Triple tree N61°45'53.58" E59°27'13.75" 645m
Teddy I am very well know this KAN. He is expert not competent rather and uses much results of another's researches and estimations.
For example, here a difference in mine (and several others man) measurements of some points in expedition 2009 and KAN expedition 2012. Check was done by the independent person who now works in Detroit (He is Russian person, and well knows this theme, and well knows both of us - he is Timur or “
ZSM-5”
Please pay attention to a difference of points into red ellipses. Simultaneously with me in expedition 2009 co-ordinates of a cedar defined Alexey Koskin and the Kutsevich-Jr. It is designated on the scheme as «
Кедр (ВАБ)». KAN-point is designated as «
Кедр-2012».
Koskin there is engineer of nuclear physics and the traveller with the experience more than 15 years (including winter). Kuntsevich-Jr is the son of the President “Fund of memory Dyatlov team” and the physicist-theorist. Our measurements have coincided to within 2… 3 m or 2...6 ft. On the specified scheme this difference it is impossible distinguish.
KAN no has experience of serious travel even in the summer. If he has some times visited a place of events he used another's operating time basically. He writes at different forums and only in it its merit in develop of these events much. Therefore it is not necessary to trust all that he writes without the serious analysis of the maintenance of its information. Badly that the alternative information no has wide access. People who create this information are very occupied by another business.
The result KAN- measurements is very much differs from these definitions. It is well visible on the scheme at designation yellow lines. Simultaneously the difference in definition can be seen on a difference in a point of a mouth of the top stream. It is red ellipse at the top of the scheme. A designation «
Устье 2-го ручья 2012».
The initial basis of the scheme is taken from the image of program Google Earth.
I think that KAN simply not adjust his GPS-device before measurements by expedition preparation.
But all these measurements GPS-co-ordinates have no importance because we should consider a situation essentially or simply from the point of view of general idea. The big accuracy will disturb here because will confuse in small divergences of accuracy of measurements.
By the way, I made this map of the basis of measurement more than 100 points on GPS-co-ordinates with do height measurement in inches (1 in = 0.305 m) in difference from KAN which had his the GPS-device with height measurement in metres. My GPS-device allows to measure with big accuracy because 1 metre is equal approximately to 3 inches. But it is not professional too, therefore can be discrepancies.
I, as well as many other things, who is interested in this question (about Dyatlov team), we have not so good opinion on KAN. At it too big ambitions and too small level of independent work. It is a lot of loan at others, it is very frequent without the reference to authors. But writes in forums and extends opinion it much. Therefore it can be more appreciable in comparison with many other things.
Nevertheless its some publications should be used for advantage of studying of this case.
Here is the approximate scheme of an arrangement of the used points (are designated not all points and are not designated what take account repeatedly (of or near to already used).
That is drawing by hand before the part map is drawn again in a digital form.
It is necessary to consider still that is Northern area and there are constant presence of the necessary number of companions GPS- satellite is casual. From this it follows that accuracy there is probability function. Still it is necessary to consider that inside GPS co-ordinates is put the special error measurements at amateur and civil devices. Approximately +/- 6 m (18 ft). It is not of great importance for travellers, and for manufacturing of maps matters. Because this error collects at summation of measurements.
On the promised picture I will specify all features how I represent it to myself.
I cannot quickly finish a picture which promised because constantly it is necessary to answer questions in this forum. I ask to make a small break to ask questions. I can`t have time to make all before I will leave for some time there where there is no Internet. In addition I have more many that it is necessary to execute on primary activity.
It is necessary while it will be limited to small number of discussed questions.
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