What the Prisoners Said

[amashilu]

https://dyatlovpass.com/syunikaev-2021

This post offers no new evidence, just something that I think about and want to share.

What were you told happened to the hikers?
We were told that the group went on a hike and died. But they were killed!
Did you decide that yourself?
No. The prisoners told us.
How did they know?
The prisoners knew all the news - and what was happening in the Far East, and in Irkutsk. And here, right under their nose, a tragedy happened. We, the convoy, lived with the convicts. And, of course, we discussed this case. So the convicts said - this is murder, but you are looking in the wrong place.
So if the prisoners told you about the death of the hikers, then it turns out that one of the prisoners killed them?
Although most of them were imprisoned for murder, but no, it was not the convicts who killed the hikers.


I recognize this behavior of the prisoners.

I worked in a prison for 20 years. When a new employee is hired, such as myself, they have to complete a six-week full-time training of how to work within the prison system. One of the things that is hammered into us and repeated over and over again is that the prisoners have nothing to do but watch us and listen to us all day and all night. They watch and they listen. They know everything about everyone. We were told repeatedly that because they watch and listen, they are always the first to know everything, so we were trained in how to be very careful and never talk within their hearing distance. Of course, after a few years, everybody breaks this rule and talks more openly.

After my six weeks were up and I began actually working in the system, I was almost immediately shocked when faced with this very thing. As Syunikaev said, "the prisoners knew all the news." They really do — prison news, local news, regional news, national news, and world news.  They knew, as Syunikaev says, "what was happening in the Far East, and in Irkutsk. And here, right under their nose, a tragedy happened. We, the convoy, lived with the convicts. And of course we discussed this case. So the convicts said - this is murder, but you are looking in the wrong place ... "
So having had long personal experience with prisoners knowing everything that happens, from right outside their door to the world stage, when I read about these prisoners saying the hikers were murdered but the searchers were looking in the wrong place, I find it hard to discount what they said. They told this to their friends. Syunikaev lived with them and they talked and were friends. I don't believe the prisoners were lying about this. They knew something.

If there were only a prisoner from that time alive today, they would be able to share what they knew.

Just something to think about.

[Marc]

I respect the evidence and the original conclusion of the investigation, because these were people who lived at the time and did their job. And what other conclusion could I have drawn if I had looked at the evidence as it is? Probably the same - "unknown compelling force".
But when you look at the evidence in a so-called big picture (unprofessionally), I have always had the feeling that this could very well be a case of murder.

 If it was a murder, we often think that it was only known by the killers, but often the locals know a lot more than you would expect and think. It may even have been an open secret in the area - incredible, but for some reason people are not very good at keeping secrets, even if you are involved.
It is understandable that people are happy to talk about what happened among themselves, but do not want to talk publicly and to investigators. Yes, people speculate, like us, and not everything can be taken as truth...but you never know.

[Ziljoe]

Thanks for sharing that amashilu

It is powerful and interesting how communication networks work. When I was looking into the Mansi signs on the trees , it gave a link to another researcher who has done good work on the tree signs but it progresses to one of the Mansi searchers who was convinced for murder, this is also mentioned on our Dyatlov pass website but it seems if his murder charge was pre or post the DPI. However, it is reported that this Mansi person ended up working as a prison person or in some military background ( that's a broad spectrum) but there does seem to be evidence for it. I'm not sure what it all means, but this Mansi individual seemed to be educated in writing etc where most of the Mansi were not. According to the researcher, his Mansi family name is in one of the photos  by the Dyatlov case files.

I will share the  link when I have a chance, it's in Russian and I can't say agree or disagree with it but there's good work in it . Basically it concludes that I he tree sign with the 1958 written was a fake by Ivanovo.


https://dyatlovpass.com/whois#letter19
Sheshkin Konstantin Efimovich (Шешкин Константин Ефимович) - born in 1932, Tyumen region - in 1959 а Mansi hunter; lived in Pelym yurts, Burmantovskiy rural council. Presumably in mid-February, while hunting, he saw traces of skis on the Lozva (above Auspiya) and Auspiya rivers leading to the Ural ridge while hunting with the Anyamovs from Suevat Paul. (Testimony). In the 60s he lived in the settlement of Lyamya-Paul. Brother of the famous Mansi artist Pyotr Efimovich Sheshkin (1930-1981). He was sentenced to 7 years for murder (in the taiga three people attacked him, so while trying to protect himself he accidentally killed one). Apparently, he was serving his term in Ivdellag and after release he remained to live in Pelym. Later, at least until the mid-80s, he served as a sergeant in the Ministry of Internal Affairs troops in Burmantovo. He died in 2010.