Clothes

[ahabmyth]

Has anyone noticed in this pic that IGOR is not wearing any gloves ???.

Now I just need to remember how I managed to post the pic.  

[GlennM]

Is it Igor? Is it the Ortoten hike? There are fingered gloves as well as mitts. My opinion is that the only person not wearing gloves pressed the shutter button, put on gloves, turned around and joined the hike.

[OLD JEDI 72]

It's really hard telling who that is but the vibe I get is that it is Rustem because of the hat. I also don't see bare hands, just light colored gloves by the proportions.

[ahabmyth]

I always "ass"umed this was Igor carrying the tent. Must be thin gloves/mitts.
I also surmised that it was Dub behind Igor because of the lighter clothes but could be wrong as her feet are covered.

[GlennM]

Ahabmyth, I am supposing this is just fact finding for you, which is OK. It must be taken for granted that the marching order and load carrying duties were flexible.  If, on the other hand, your interest in this aspect of the hike is leading to some particular insight, I hope you meet with success. A novel thought process might open a new door.

[ahabmyth]

GlennM, yes there is some fact finding as it will be a lot quicker having your guys feedback as some of you have been here for years.
Just to embellish some of your statements, I think there wasnt a flexible arrangement for heavy duties as I have read that Dubinina had been shot in the foot and that the group had lightened her load by sharing some of it. So if Zina escaped the tent weight as well, then there wasnt entire flexibility.
Just stating facts as they could have bearing for others theories.
Regarding the clothing worn by the two who stepped out of the tent first (we think ). Obviously they would have been warmer and it would have been a case of following someone to the loo like ladies do or they had a quick smoke or something else.
What has me baffled (besides everything) is the state of undress of the others. On nights like this wouldnt they just keep all their gear on to keep warm as there was not supposed to be having Igors famous stove to keep warm. Does one think that the clothes worn on exit were an assortment whether the footprints attest to this or not, and that maybe all mixed clothing was done at the Cedar "area". I have heard mention of the "chinese" torches but think i saw somewhere 2 off miners lamps,could have been a simple mix up in the dark. But again the Search party were supposed to have found the tent quite neat and orderly. I'm soooooooooooo confused.
I am thinking of going back to my original idea of arguments and Igor cracking it, and just slashing the tent as some sort of weird fateful experiment for their unsuccessful level 3 achievement.

[OLD JEDI 72]

GlennM, yes there is some fact finding as it will be a lot quicker having your guys feedback as some of you have been here for years.
Just to embellish some of your statements, I think there wasnt a flexible arrangement for heavy duties as I have read that Dubinina had been shot in the foot and that the group had lightened her load by sharing some of it. So if Zina escaped the tent weight as well, then there wasnt entire flexibility.
Just stating facts as they could have bearing for others theories.
Regarding the clothing worn by the two who stepped out of the tent first (we think ). Obviously they would have been warmer and it would have been a case of following someone to the loo like ladies do or they had a quick smoke or something else.
What has me baffled (besides everything) is the state of undress of the others. On nights like this wouldnt they just keep all their gear on to keep warm as there was not supposed to be having Igors famous stove to keep warm. Does one think that the clothes worn on exit were an assortment whether the footprints attest to this or not, and that maybe all mixed clothing was done at the Cedar "area". I have heard mention of the "chinese" torches but think i saw somewhere 2 off miners lamps,could have been a simple mix up in the dark. But again the Search party were supposed to have found the tent quite neat and orderly. I'm soooooooooooo confused.
I am thinking of going back to my original idea of arguments and Igor cracking it, and just slashing the tent as some sort of weird fateful experiment for their unsuccessful level 3 achievement.

From what I understand it wasn't that cold at first. They described the air as warm and loud like from a jet engine. When studying the temperatures that day and night there was a MASSIVE temperature inversion that night that probably caught them off guard. It might even have happened after they left the tent, hence why they were so underdressed in some cases.