Etymology of the family names of the victims.

[mja Mahé]

Good morning everybody.

  I think that can be very interesting to search the roots of the victims through the etymology of the family names. This give a direction often of research through the origins of the victims( their family names isn't always relative with the Russia) and also about the signification of their family names.
 For example, about Lyudmila Dubinina, I've found that his family name, Dubinina, seen by a french( firstname and lastname) is relative with the Serbia nation and the translation since this family name in serbian up to French give the word "profondeur", "depth" in english.

  These two factors, the etnic origins and the signification of the family names can give clues on the question " why them especially?".
  The real reason of this incident toward this group can be occult elsewhere and no relative directly with the Russia.




  Happy new year 2026.

  Friendly.

[Axelrod]

Doroshenko is the most common surname here, but its meaning is unclear to me.
My classmate had this surname, and then she changed it twice.

Dubinin is also a popular surname, derived from the word "cudgel." Serbian spelling is Дубињин

Dyatlov comes from the word "woodpecker."

Zolotaryov comes from the word "goldsmith," or "sewage truck" (sewage cleaner). Also a common surname.

Kolevatov is the rarest surname here. It belonged also to the director of the Moscow Circus in 1980, who was accused of corruption.

Kolmogorov comes from the village of Kholmogory, where Lomonosov was born. It was also the surname of a famous mathematician.

On the gravestone, portraits 4 and 5 are reversed. This is possible if the surname is spelled with a different "e" in the orthography.
Колѣватов (Kolyevatov). In the New Orthography, "Kolevatov" comes before Kolmogorova.

Krivonischenko is a derivative of "crooked nose."

Slobodin - "sloboda" means "settlement."

Thibeaux/Thibault-Brignolles is a French surname, first name, and city (like Don Quixote of La Mancha).

Yudin is from a Jewish biblical name, but is only found among Russians.

[Hunter]

The surname Золотарев comes from the word "золотарь", a person who cleans cesspools.
A surname derived from work with precious metals would be Златорев, from the Old Russian (Slavic) word "zlato" (злато),  meaning gold.

[mja Mahé]

Good morning.

very interesting in reality. I feel many possible tracks because every effect has a cause and here, into this affair, the cause isn't a material cause because the victims are humans carrying their karma. This word, karma, can be very revealing of their mistakes which may cause a state of fact like this affair.
Other think about lyudmila Dubinina :
"soft tissues are missing around eyes, eyebrows, nose bridge and left cheek bone is partially exposed"
"eye sockets are empty, eyeballs are missing"
"soft tissues of the upper lip are missing, teeth and and upper jaw is exposed"
"tongue is missing"

Personnaly, I call that organ harvesting relative with actual UFO case of organ harvesting on cattle like cows?

It's also possible that lyudmila Dubinina was the only victim selected and that the other are death just because they was with she???

Doroshenko is the most common surname here, but its meaning is unclear to me.
My classmate had this surname, and then she changed it twice.

Dubinin is also a popular surname, derived from the word "cudgel." Serbian spelling is Дубињин

Dyatlov comes from the word "woodpecker."

Zolotaryov comes from the word "goldsmith," or "sewage truck" (sewage cleaner). Also a common surname.

Kolevatov is the rarest surname here. It belonged also to the director of the Moscow Circus in 1980, who was accused of corruption.

Kolmogorov comes from the village of Kholmogory, where Lomonosov was born. It was also the surname of a famous mathematician.

On the gravestone, portraits 4 and 5 are reversed. This is possible if the surname is spelled with a different "e" in the orthography.
Колѣватов (Kolyevatov). In the New Orthography, "Kolevatov" comes before Kolmogorova.

Krivonischenko is a derivative of "crooked nose."

Slobodin - "sloboda" means "settlement."

Thibeaux/Thibault-Brignolles is a French surname, first name, and city (like Don Quixote of La Mancha).

Yudin is from a Jewish biblical name, but is only found among Russians.

[Missi]

Not quite sure, how we arrived at UFOs from names and their origin.

But the damages to Dubininas face is most likely due to her lying in the thawing snow for weeks. There might be damages due to bacteria and microorganisms or maybe even due to small rodents or the like. I'd go as far as accept the chance that the missing eyes might be caused by some pressure wave that was created by an explosion, as someone suggested in another thread.
Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?

[sarapuk]

Good morning everybody.

  I think that can be very interesting to search the roots of the victims through the etymology of the family names. This give a direction often of research through the origins of the victims( their family names isn't always relative with the Russia) and also about the signification of their family names.
 For example, about Lyudmila Dubinina, I've found that his family name, Dubinina, seen by a french( firstname and lastname) is relative with the Serbia nation and the translation since this family name in serbian up to French give the word "profondeur", "depth" in english.

  These two factors, the etnic origins and the signification of the family names can give clues on the question " why them especially?".
  The real reason of this incident toward this group can be occult elsewhere and no relative directly with the Russia.




  Happy new year 2026.

  Friendly.

Well done I don't recall the subject of Etymology being brought up before. Its very interesting and no reason why it should not be considered. Anything new that may help in some way is welcome. The injuries to Dubinina were extraordinary. I went into some detail some time ago on the internal injuries relating to the missing tongue and also the hyoid bone.

[sarapuk]

Good morning.

very interesting in reality. I feel many possible tracks because every effect has a cause and here, into this affair, the cause isn't a material cause because the victims are humans carrying their karma. This word, karma, can be very revealing of their mistakes which may cause a state of fact like this affair.
Other think about lyudmila Dubinina :
"soft tissues are missing around eyes, eyebrows, nose bridge and left cheek bone is partially exposed"
"eye sockets are empty, eyeballs are missing"
"soft tissues of the upper lip are missing, teeth and and upper jaw is exposed"
"tongue is missing"

Personnaly, I call that organ harvesting relative with actual UFO case of organ harvesting on cattle like cows?

It's also possible that lyudmila Dubinina was the only victim selected and that the other are death just because they was with she???

Doroshenko is the most common surname here, but its meaning is unclear to me.
My classmate had this surname, and then she changed it twice.

Dubinin is also a popular surname, derived from the word "cudgel." Serbian spelling is Дубињин

Dyatlov comes from the word "woodpecker."

Zolotaryov comes from the word "goldsmith," or "sewage truck" (sewage cleaner). Also a common surname.

Kolevatov is the rarest surname here. It belonged also to the director of the Moscow Circus in 1980, who was accused of corruption.

Kolmogorov comes from the village of Kholmogory, where Lomonosov was born. It was also the surname of a famous mathematician.

On the gravestone, portraits 4 and 5 are reversed. This is possible if the surname is spelled with a different "e" in the orthography.
Колѣватов (Kolyevatov). In the New Orthography, "Kolevatov" comes before Kolmogorova.

Krivonischenko is a derivative of "crooked nose."

Slobodin - "sloboda" means "settlement."

Thibeaux/Thibault-Brignolles is a French surname, first name, and city (like Don Quixote of La Mancha).

Yudin is from a Jewish biblical name, but is only found among Russians.

There are significant similarities between Dubinina's injuries and cattle and animal mutilations. But scarce attention has been focused on that matter in this Forum. Unfortunately many researchers and others are sceptical and definitely not open minded about such matters. Despite the glaring similarities and taking into account other factors like lights in the sky and radiation, etc.   

[sarapuk]

Not quite sure, how we arrived at UFOs from names and their origin.

But the damages to Dubininas face is most likely due to her lying in the thawing snow for weeks. There might be damages due to bacteria and microorganisms or maybe even due to small rodents or the like. I'd go as far as accept the chance that the missing eyes might be caused by some pressure wave that was created by an explosion, as someone suggested in another thread.
Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?

Thats the usual cop out. To say that the injuries were due to being in water, or and due to little animals or micro life forms. But they were significant injuries highly unlikely to have been caused by water or little creatures that prey on dead matter.

[Missi]

Not quite sure, how we arrived at UFOs from names and their origin.

But the damages to Dubininas face is most likely due to her lying in the thawing snow for weeks. There might be damages due to bacteria and microorganisms or maybe even due to small rodents or the like. I'd go as far as accept the chance that the missing eyes might be caused by some pressure wave that was created by an explosion, as someone suggested in another thread.
Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?

Thats the usual cop out. To say that the injuries were due to being in water, or and due to little animals or micro life forms. But they were significant injuries highly unlikely to have been caused by water or little creatures that prey on dead matter.

What indicators are there pointing to her injuries being UNLIKELY to be caused by water or terrestrial life forms?

[Missi]

Well done I don't recall the subject of Etymology being brought up before. Its very interesting and no reason why it should not be considered. Anything new that may help in some way is welcome. The injuries to Dubinina were extraordinary. I went into some detail some time ago on the internal injuries relating to the missing tongue and also the hyoid bone.

Though I really do enjoy the idea of researching the etymology of the names of the victims and other people involved (and indeed I did research into it about two weeks ago or something), I don't see the contribution to the case. If there was a connection, this would indicate one of two things.
Either names would predetermine your future or some crazy dude had looked especially for people with fitting names to orchestrate their demise. And as crazy as it sounds, I find the second option more believable...

[Ziljoe]

Not quite sure, how we arrived at UFOs from names and their origin.

But the damages to Dubininas face is most likely due to her lying in the thawing snow for weeks. There might be damages due to bacteria and microorganisms or maybe even due to small rodents or the like. I'd go as far as accept the chance that the missing eyes might be caused by some pressure wave that was created by an explosion, as someone suggested in another thread.
Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?

Thats the usual cop out. To say that the injuries were due to being in water, or and due to little animals or micro life forms. But they were significant injuries highly unlikely to have been caused by water or little creatures that prey on dead matter.

What indicators are there pointing to her injuries being UNLIKELY to be caused by water or terrestrial life forms?

sarapuk,

In all of the speculation about anything connected to the DPI, the missing eyes and tongue are the easiest to explain. All of the ravine 4 had missing skin around their scalp, eyes , hairline etc. it would be complete madness to expect other wise. Eyeballs shrink rapidly after 24 hours of death plus they probably went through several processes of thawing and freezing in water as the season continued.

The orifices are precisely the areas of where flesh starts to decay. As much is said about the alleged cattle mutilations. It's certainly not a cop out, it's a rational and logical as we can be .

[GlennM]

Call me Ishmael 

[sarapuk]

Not quite sure, how we arrived at UFOs from names and their origin.

But the damages to Dubininas face is most likely due to her lying in the thawing snow for weeks. There might be damages due to bacteria and microorganisms or maybe even due to small rodents or the like. I'd go as far as accept the chance that the missing eyes might be caused by some pressure wave that was created by an explosion, as someone suggested in another thread.
Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?

Thats the usual cop out. To say that the injuries were due to being in water, or and due to little animals or micro life forms. But they were significant injuries highly unlikely to have been caused by water or little creatures that prey on dead matter.

What indicators are there pointing to her injuries being UNLIKELY to be caused by water or terrestrial life forms?

One big indicator that is mostly overlooked. The hyoid bone. I have done a fair bit of research on that aspect of the injuries. And its in some of my posts from ages ago on this Forum.

[mja Mahé]

Not quite sure, how we arrived at UFOs from names and their origin.

But the damages to Dubininas face is most likely due to her lying in the thawing snow for weeks. There might be damages due to bacteria and microorganisms or maybe even due to small rodents or the like. I'd go as far as accept the chance that the missing eyes might be caused by some pressure wave that was created by an explosion, as someone suggested in another thread.
Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?

Good morning Missi.

"Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?".............For to make a clone using the genetic of Dubinina! I consider that here, into this forum and towards this affair, some of members haven't had to do of problems mentioned UFO's because they haven't have personal encounters with UFO or with supposed extraterrestrial entities . For this reason I consider also that they don't understand the possibility that Dyatlov Pass incident can be an ufologic affair. This is not a blame towards them but an real experience ufologic open the mind at the possible seriousness of this situation. The possible visitors from the space aren't perhaps especially cool entities!!!

Friendly.

[sarapuk]

Not quite sure, how we arrived at UFOs from names and their origin.

But the damages to Dubininas face is most likely due to her lying in the thawing snow for weeks. There might be damages due to bacteria and microorganisms or maybe even due to small rodents or the like. I'd go as far as accept the chance that the missing eyes might be caused by some pressure wave that was created by an explosion, as someone suggested in another thread.
Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?

Good morning Missi.

"Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?".............For to make a clone using the genetic of Dubinina! I consider that here, into this forum and towards this affair, some of members haven't had to do of problems mentioned UFO's because they haven't have personal encounters with UFO or with supposed extraterrestrial entities . For this reason I consider also that they don't understand the possibility that Dyatlov Pass incident can be an ufologic affair. This is not a blame towards them but an real experience ufologic open the mind at the possible seriousness of this situation. The possible visitors from the space aren't perhaps especially cool entities!!!

Friendly.

Interestingly put. Well, for sure, whoever or whatever caused those horrible injuries and deaths may not be what we would consider a very nice being. But that's what we think. Humans kill cattle, etc., to feed. And sometimes humans kill for sport. And sometimes, because they are not very nice. That could apply to all beings, known and unknown. Humans experiment on living animals and kill animals to experiment on them.

[ilahiyol]

Not quite sure, how we arrived at UFOs from names and their origin.

But the damages to Dubininas face is most likely due to her lying in the thawing snow for weeks. There might be damages due to bacteria and microorganisms or maybe even due to small rodents or the like. I'd go as far as accept the chance that the missing eyes might be caused by some pressure wave that was created by an explosion, as someone suggested in another thread.
Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?

Good morning Missi.

"Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?".............For to make a clone using the genetic of Dubinina! I consider that here, into this forum and towards this affair, some of members haven't had to do of problems mentioned UFO's because they haven't have personal encounters with UFO or with supposed extraterrestrial entities . For this reason I consider also that they don't understand the possibility that Dyatlov Pass incident can be an ufologic affair. This is not a blame towards them but an real experience ufologic open the mind at the possible seriousness of this situation. The possible visitors from the space aren't perhaps especially cool entities!!!

Friendly.

Interestingly put. Well, for sure, whoever or whatever caused those horrible injuries and deaths may not be what we would consider a very nice being. But that's what we think. Humans kill cattle, etc., to feed. And sometimes humans kill for sport. And sometimes, because they are not very nice. That could apply to all beings, known and unknown. Humans experiment on living animals and kill animals to experiment on them.

I can't imagine such a powerful, intelligent, and compelling force being evil! It must have been a good being. But why did it kill the young people? Maybe they needed to die! Death was better for them. Then why are there injuries? Maybe the compelling force got angry about something! And that's why it caused the injuries. If this force were evil, it would have attacked all the young people the same way, gouging out their eyes and tongues and breaking their ribs. It easily killed the young people in the outside environment, but struggled to kill them in the snow cave!!!!! And that's why it got angry, gouged out their eyes and tongues, and broke their ribs. Because it was also trapped in the confined space, and that must have angered it!!!!! So from this, we can figure out what kind of being the compelling force is. Yes, it resembles a human, but is it human? I don't know!

[sarapuk]

Not quite sure, how we arrived at UFOs from names and their origin.

But the damages to Dubininas face is most likely due to her lying in the thawing snow for weeks. There might be damages due to bacteria and microorganisms or maybe even due to small rodents or the like. I'd go as far as accept the chance that the missing eyes might be caused by some pressure wave that was created by an explosion, as someone suggested in another thread.
Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?

Good morning Missi.

"Why for the love of all gods should an UFO take Dubinina and cut out her eyes and tongue?".............For to make a clone using the genetic of Dubinina! I consider that here, into this forum and towards this affair, some of members haven't had to do of problems mentioned UFO's because they haven't have personal encounters with UFO or with supposed extraterrestrial entities . For this reason I consider also that they don't understand the possibility that Dyatlov Pass incident can be an ufologic affair. This is not a blame towards them but an real experience ufologic open the mind at the possible seriousness of this situation. The possible visitors from the space aren't perhaps especially cool entities!!!

Friendly.

Interestingly put. Well, for sure, whoever or whatever caused those horrible injuries and deaths may not be what we would consider a very nice being. But that's what we think. Humans kill cattle, etc., to feed. And sometimes humans kill for sport. And sometimes, because they are not very nice. That could apply to all beings, known and unknown. Humans experiment on living animals and kill animals to experiment on them.

I can't imagine such a powerful, intelligent, and compelling force being evil! It must have been a good being. But why did it kill the young people? Maybe they needed to die! Death was better for them. Then why are there injuries? Maybe the compelling force got angry about something! And that's why it caused the injuries. If this force were evil, it would have attacked all the young people the same way, gouging out their eyes and tongues and breaking their ribs. It easily killed the young people in the outside environment, but struggled to kill them in the snow cave!!!!! And that's why it got angry, gouged out their eyes and tongues, and broke their ribs. Because it was also trapped in the confined space, and that must have angered it!!!!! So from this, we can figure out what kind of being the compelling force is. Yes, it resembles a human, but is it human? I don't know!

I should have added that there are probably good aliens and bad aliens. An also accidents etc.