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February 02, 2026, 01:15:50 AM
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This is my presentation that is playing today at the 67 anniversary conference in Yekaterinburg. It is about the weather.
The polar vortex collapse was first recorded in January 1959. Read the article →



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February 02, 2026, 06:03:17 AM
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Great investigation done regarding temperatures and weather conditions at DP in February 1959!

The main statement is also fine -- weather conditions were not the major factor, which influenced the hikers' group dying. Winter weather provided unfavorable background for the incident, just that.

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It's useless to state that the footprints on the slope were made by booted people. All the search party members saw the footprints and concluded that the hikers went downhill half booted or even barefoot. And the tent was set at the slope, not in the forest.
 

February 02, 2026, 08:12:23 AM
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Special note:
It's useless to state that the footprints on the slope were made by booted people. All the search party members saw the footprints and concluded that the hikers went downhill half booted or even barefoot. And the tent was set at the slope, not in the forest.

Where do you get your information? Only Chernyshev Aleksey Alekseevich said that who is in cahoots with Sulman. No one else. Sources please.

Vladimir Askinadzi:
"The footprints were left by those who pitched the tent on the slope during the staging. No one even considered whether these tracks would remain. The idea that the footprints, deformed by wind and precipitation, could be identified as "barefoot" and other details that Chernyshev "noticed" is a myth. There's no proof whatsoever that the tracks belonged to the Dyatlov group. This is unfounded."
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February 02, 2026, 09:27:20 AM
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Special note:
It's useless to state that the footprints on the slope were made by booted people. All the search party members saw the footprints and concluded that the hikers went downhill half booted or even barefoot. And the tent was set at the slope, not in the forest.

Where do you get your information? Only Chernyshev Aleksey Alekseevich said that who is in cahoots with Sulman. No one else. Sources please.

Vladimir Askinadzi:
"The footprints were left by those who pitched the tent on the slope during the staging. No one even considered whether these tracks would remain. The idea that the footprints, deformed by wind and precipitation, could be identified as "barefoot" and other details that Chernyshev "noticed" is a myth. There's no proof whatsoever that the tracks belonged to the Dyatlov group. This is unfounded."
I get my information from your web site. Thanks for the excellent resource, by the way.  thanky1

For example, in V. L. Lebedev witness testimony on the page 315 in the case files we can see:
"These footprints go side by side at all time and divide into 2 trails only far below (approximately 800 meters) on the stone ridges. It seems that in some places prints of bare feet are visible. Most of the tracks are made with feet in socks."
https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-313-315


There are other similar statements by the members of the search party. With all respect, Vladimir Askinadzi was the last from UPI to arrive to the Pass. He can describe the Ravine-4 corpses, which he found, but very little beyond that. Nowdays, he is pushed very hard to support staging, and it seems he is fine to say what he is expected to.
 

February 02, 2026, 09:32:26 AM
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This makes two. Who else?
They are not experts. I ma not arguing with you, this is never going to fly in court.
The expert said these tracks are not left by bare feet. Look at them. You can see the bottom of a shoe with heel.
 

February 02, 2026, 09:39:08 AM
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This makes two. Who else?
Please open your site by this link:
https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-136-198?rbid=17743
and read the following on page 160:

"It was possible to find traces of 8-9 people from the tent about 1 km down the slope, further the traces were lost. One person was wearing boots, the rest in socks and barefoot.
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Do you need more? Or is that enough?  kewl1
 

February 02, 2026, 09:41:24 AM
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And who is the person with the boots?
 

February 02, 2026, 09:47:44 AM
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And who is the person with the boots?
This is a hard question. I have two candidates, and I am not sure that it is the only selection. First - Luda Dubinina, as starting in boots, she probably wanted to replace them later with pieces of her pullover. Second - Yura Krivonischenko, who probably had to put off the boots, as his left leg was burnt, and he needed to access his wound.
 

February 02, 2026, 01:18:49 PM
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I will explain in the interview what I think about the footprints.
 

February 03, 2026, 05:08:16 AM
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I have just seen the intervew, which was great. However, I am sad to say that again the same mistake has been made. It's not correct to insist that the people, who ran from the tent downhill, were booted. Here is what Sergey Sogrin reported about the footprints in the case files on page 334:



Much later he published a book, where he provided maximum details he had remembered:





So, we have one more clear evidence that most of the hikers were barefoot and they ran, or walked out rapidly from the tent's spot. Talking about booted people, who went down slowly, is not correct.

The expert said these tracks are not left by bare feet.
I am afraid that this "expert" needs to be recommended better glasses.  grin1
 

February 03, 2026, 08:28:32 AM
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I stand by what I said. It is called confirmation bias. Google it.
 

February 03, 2026, 05:15:54 PM
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I think we all suffer from confirmation bias. Terribly difficult to eradicate.

About the tracks/footprints. I don't think the experiment with walking on sand compares to walking on snow although I believe he's trying to give the example of the curve on the inner foot which is not observed in the 3 photos of the foot prints.

I think the use of the word "bare foot" means without a shoe or boot . The witnesses at the scene report bare foot or toes in some of the footprints or through thin socks. 2.5 of the hikers had footwear, some had three pairs of socks on and some only one . Everything is consistent with first reports in the statements on day two of the investigation.

Only 4 hikers were found on day 2, so no one knew what everyone was wearing but the reports seem to match with what was observed by those at the scene and what was eventually recovered . The only other way they could have predicted that I guess ,is by counting the remaining footwear in the tent ?.

For those wearing three socks , I would suspect the inner arch wouldn't show, or their toes for that matter, plus I suspect that some snow would start to stick to the bottom of the socks giving a different print. The pictures we have don't really show much.

The whole footprint thing, just socks.... tongue2
 

February 04, 2026, 01:54:11 AM
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About the tracks/footprints. I don't think the experiment with walking on sand compares to walking on snow


I never referred to walking in sand. Stas Evdokimov was walking in snow on February 2024 and Oleg Taymen was documented it.
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February 04, 2026, 02:00:37 AM
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About the tracks/footprints. I don't think the experiment with walking on sand compares to walking on snow


I never referred to walking in sand. Stas Evdokimov was walking in snow on February 2025 and Oleg Taymen was documented it.

Ahhh... I went onto the foot print page and the expert had foot prints in sand . I think that was updated since I last looked.

I missed the stas Evdokimov work,Do you have a link?.
 

February 04, 2026, 02:16:29 AM
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February 04, 2026, 02:41:34 AM
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I would suspect the inner arch wouldn't show, or their toes for that matter

It does show. Refer to the video. Oleg says that it does show because of the thermal in-print.
 

February 04, 2026, 03:15:31 AM
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@Senior Maldonado
You read Russian. Here is what Sogrin says in his interview April 24, 1959. No mention of "toes".
https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-330-339-ru#334

For those who don't:
https://dyatlovpass.com/case-files-330-339#334

In his testimony he doesn't describe only what he saw but what he thinks happen. This is so embedded in his memory that much later with the book in 2019 and recollections his tendency to seek, interpret, favor, and recall information that confirms or supports his pre-existing beliefs, while ignoring or downplaying contradictory evidence, made him unapproachable. His answer to any questions is I know what I saw and you can't tell me otherwise.
In his book he says that this is his account of what the documents show. There are no photos showing "toes". No one in 1959 mention any "toes". And now you, Senior Maldonado, are citing his book as a document. This is what I called in my interview the snake bit its tail.
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February 04, 2026, 04:02:49 AM
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Teddy, I fully understand that you believe the modern expert, who says that the people on the slope were booted. I guess he is very confident in what he says. But there is one thing -- he has never seen the original prints. Despite his confidence, it's very hard to deny the evident - the footprints belonged to the hikers, and they included half-booted prints (Slobodin) and barefeet prints (in socks).

You think that Mr.Sogrin cannot be regarded as a trusted source? You are not ready to accept what he has written in his books? OK. But how can you deny the final Ivanov's statement in the case files (page 386), where he says that the hikers were literally barefeet? Are you going to deny the case files as a whole then?

Nevertheless, to deny the case files is not a bad idea.  thumb1 They do not reflect the DPI investigation process, as it was run in 1959. Criminal cases investigation law does not allow free access of everybody to cases' files. The fact, that we can easily see the case files, clearly indicates that this document is a kind of fake. It is a giveaway to the public, who wants to be entertained.
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February 04, 2026, 04:09:51 AM
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But how can you deny the final Ivanov's statement in the case files (page 386), where he says that the hikes were literally barefeet? Are you going to deny the case files as a whole then?

The hikers were barefeet. These are not their tracks.

I am out of this polemic.
 

February 04, 2026, 04:17:39 AM
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The hikers were barefeet. These are not their tracks.

I am out of this polemic.
This is wise of you. I hope that there will be no statement that ivanov and his investigators team were a group of unprofessional fools, not able to realise that the footprints were made by booted strangers and not the barefeet hikers.
 

February 04, 2026, 04:27:08 AM
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There are no photos showing "toes". No one in 1959 mention any "toes". .

Sorry teddy, this is more about me correcting my own memory as to what's been written or what I thought I read. It's just that I knew it had been mentioned at least once.


Sheet 91

Traces disappeared on the stone ridges, and below the stones they appeared again, and then were lost. The tracks were very well distinguished. In some footprints could be seen that the person was walking barefoot or in cotton sock, because the toes were imprinted.
 

February 04, 2026, 06:44:31 AM
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Chernishyov is legit, this is why I am saying he is in cahoots with whoever knew whose prints were those.

But I am not going to argue with anyone.

You can do whatever you want with the information.

I only stop by the forum to help you find something, and being trashed in the process.

@Senior Maldonado
Thank you for making me unwelcome in my own forum.

Afterthought: But it's fine, we all want the same thing.
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February 04, 2026, 07:59:06 AM
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@Senior Maldonado
Thank you for making me unwelcome in my own forum.
It was never meant. My deepest apologies if I sounded rude and unfriendly. I just wanted to say that there were multiple pieces of evidence that the footprints were made by the Dyatlov group and they matched what was found on the feet of the guys and girls.

Your forum is great! Way to go!!
 
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February 04, 2026, 08:27:47 AM
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and they matched what was found on the feet of the guys and girls.

They do not.

Senior Maldonado, open a new topic and say what you want. I am not going to read what you write there.
We are at the impassable situation here, neither of us can budge the other party, so it is a waste of time.
Open another topic please.