New Suspect In Case

[fungoorstitch]

There actually is someone in the case who had motive to commit this assault - if that's what it was. The belligerent drunkard from the train who accused them of stealing his flask. Zina refers to the incident in her diary. She doesn't deny the crime, which probably means they did do it. What if the guy gathered some friends and went after them? It's a stretcher, but still above Yeti on the list.

[GlennM]

And above LGM too

[Ziljoe]

I think it's logistically to difficult and would leave a trail of evidence. The injuries are consistent with a fight to survive against the conditions they found themselves . The autopsies explain the cause of deaths by cold and hypothermia and then compression to the ravine 4 .

[Hunter]

Actually, some investigators of the tragedy tried to make this drunk a suspect. But one against nine—you've seen enough action movies.

[GlennM]

The drunk way not have used a straw, but supposing he shadowed and attacked the hikers is certainly reaching for one.

[Hunter]

1 пьяный против 6 парней и мужчин? Вряд ли. Ему бы надавали по шее.

ENGLISH TRANSLATION:
1 drunk against 6 guys and men? Hardly. He would have been given a neck.

[GlennM]

Perrhaps more to the point is that the hike had elements of self discipline baked into the excursion. Aside from the actual rigors of the hike, there was supposedly a swearing off of cigarettes and alcohol for the duration. Both are exceedingly tempting to the user. I would not put it past Rustem to sneak the drunks drink, but that is where it ends  As we all know, alcohol is a depressant and while the burn and the flushed skin give the illusion of warmth, the reality is the opposite. My point is that purloined alcohol is not enough to do anything more than cause friction. More mention was given to sharing a tangerine than to any alcohol related incidents or accidents on the way to Ortoten.

[Hunter]

It's impossible to secretly drink or smoke on a hike. Plus, cigarettes could have been used to "build bridges"—to facilitate communication with locals and other tourists. It's unlikely that the alcoholic on the train had a bottle stolen; more likely, he was trying to profit at the tourists' expense.

[James2006]

My personal theory is that the Dyatlov Pass group may have intentionally planned to investigate or approach something they already knew about, possibly related to a secret military or nuclear experiment taking place in the area.

If they encountered something unexpected, such as a military test, toxic gases, or another dangerous event, it could explain why they suddenly left their tent. I also think it’s possible that some of the severe injuries may have resulted from falling into the ravine after fleeing.

I also have questions about Yuri Yudin, the only member who turned back before the incident. The explanation that he left because of back pain or sciatica mainly comes from his own account. Since he wasn’t there when the tragedy happened, we can’t independently verify that this was the real reason. Because of that, I think it’s reasonable to question whether he chose not to continue for another reason, especially if the group had a specific objective beyond a normal hiking expedition.

Finally, I can’t completely rule out another possibility: that Yuri Yudin himself may have been involved in some way. I have no direct evidence for this, and I’m not claiming it as fact, but I think it is another possibility worth considering until all the unanswered questions surrounding the case are fully explained.

This is only my personal hypothesis, not a conclusion. I’m interested in hearing evidence or arguments that support or challenge these ideas

[Hunter]

There are various theories surrounding Yudin's departure. Officially, it's health issues. Other theories include:
1. Yudin was recruited as an extra to secure permission for the expedition. The plan was for him to leave the group at the final "return" point and go home. There are two possibilities: he never rejoins the group (option 1), or he rejoins at the final point, the group's diary is erased, and on paper, Yudin completed the expedition (option 2).
2. Yudin found a cache of gold belonging to "black prospectors" in the 2nd Northern Pass and retrieved it. Then, citing health reasons, he left the group.
3. Yudin was supposed to arrive "on the mainland" and signal that the group had begun its mission...

[SURI]

@James2006
To some extent, I agree with you regarding a certain specific objective of the group, the fall into the ravine, and the suspicious role of Yuri Yudin. In my view, Yudin was a part of it. A kind of intermediate link, the second to last point. And Ivanov undoubtedly knew this.

[GlennM]

If you knew Yuden's quality of life toward the end, you may change your thoughts of the man. Yuden actually mourned the Stallinist years believing he had it better then.

[James2006]

@James2006
To some extent, I agree with you regarding a certain specific objective of the group, the fall into the ravine, and the suspicious role of Yuri Yudin. In my view, Yudin was a part of it. A kind of intermediate link, the second to last point. And Ivanov undoubtedly knew this.

That’s an interesting perspective. What led you to conclude that Yudin was an intermediate link? And why are you certain Ivanov knew? I’d like to understand the evidence behind your view.

[SURI]

That's how I perceive it from Ivanov's letters. He knew all the circumstances of the case and said a lot between the lines there. Either you have the intuition to recognize it, or you don't. It is not enough to just read a manipulated case file that lacks a number and is unsigned in many places. Then you get a completely distorted picture.

It is the same with the diaries, which do not reflect the true reality. They were manipulated.

Quite simply, certain forces were at play in the DPI case, influencing everything – both on the Pass and away from it.

[SURI]

And by the way, another interesting read is these letters. Once again, reading between the lines.

https://dyatlovpass.com/zinaida-kolmogorova?flp=1#mainmenua