I agree with all arguments which you here have resulted, but what you know about properties of infrasound and its feature for example to the given place?
Sounds interesting. Though I think that further research into the subject of infrasounds' influence on humans is required and experiments must be conducted, especially to determine if there are conditions for such an incident on Dyatlov Pass. Albeit, it's hard to believe anyone would conduct experiments on living organisms in our times. I don't think I ever heard of infrasounds having such a devastating effect on human psyche, to force all 9 of tourists to leave a tent in the middle of the night without vital equipment. But who knows, "there are more things in heaven and earth, than are dreamt of in your philosophy".
You correctly here have told All.
But in this section it is offtop. There is such section at a forum,
http://forum.dyatlovpass.com/index.php?topic=116.msg2389#new If we to discuss it to us it will be necessary to move there. I will shortly answer the basic points of this problem and if it is necessary to continue, let's move there.
1. I specially was engaged in this hypothesis. On the basic scientific activity I am connected with space section of ergonomics. But data on that that is necessary for our studying there a little. It was necessary to develop knowledge. At first I have received consultation of the professor the Moscow state Lomonosov university Valery Gordienko (ResearcherID: B-1410-2013
http://www.researcherid.com/rid/B-1410-2013). Then on a place of events I attentively surveyed district for detection of the places demanded for occurrence such effect.
The first part of a hypothesis consisted that останец on pass where there is a memorial plate has the form of "boots".
This picture is made when I accompanied the American writer Donnie Eicher to Dyatlov pass and advised it at a writing it books «Dead Mountain»
https://www.chroniclebooks.com/titles/dead-mountain.html .
Air stream at a flow of this rock should create whirlwinds which form such phenomenon, as "Kármán vortex street". At such sizes of a rock and its flow these whirlwinds very often contain frequencies which coincide with frequencies of a resonance of biorhythms of a brain of the person, those which oppress mentality.
1.The Second part of a hypothesis consisted that there is a series of parallel rocks,
It is a picture in half of height of lifting on mountain. The rock where there is a memorial plate is located most close to a shooting point.
Between these rocks there can be a resonance in the form of a standing wave of the same frequencies.
The sizes and conditions in both first these two parts of a hypothesis suit generation of the "necessary" frequencies. If to carry out necessary calculations.
4.However professor Gordienko considers that the capacity of a phenomenon received as a result of these processes not sufficient for this purpose that the effect would be notable enough.
Therefore it was necessary to find that that another that would be enough capacity and possessed the same properties.
5.This place can be found out on a place of events too. It was necessary to expand a little only searches in distance from that place where was tent. At first professor Gordienko at MSLU (2010) has told it, and then and Donnie Eicher has resulted opinion Dr. Al Bedard at NOAA Earth System Research Laboratory (2013), that it is necessary to pay attention on torsion whirlwinds round mountain Holatchahl which bend around mountain on the right and at the left.
It is illustration from book Donnie Eicher «Dead Mountain». It is necessary to consider only that the whirlwind will be more thin behind the mountain and to extend at removal from it to the right and to the left.
However only it is not enough these whirlwinds for reception of the necessary effect. It is necessary also the amplifier of this phenomenon. That it would be necessary to find out it only to rise on a spur of mountain which the Lozva river separates the third and fourth right inflows. When I was understood on this spur, I have seen that the mountain circus of the third inflow can be that resonator which will strengthen generation of frequencies of the necessary range.
Unfortunately at this time I did not have a wide-angle objective and the left part of the circus has not entered into a shot.
On it a photo the summer kind from mountain on sources 2 and the third right inflows the Lozva river is shown. It is possible to assume that similar process can occur in a source of the second inflow.
In these hollows there is a process similar to volume that occurs in a kitchen microwave.
Here on this scheme the principle on which arise such acustic the phenomen is shown.
Only in a kitchen microwave and in mountain circuses there will be different frequencies and physical substances. In the microwave generator there will be electromagnetic fluctuations of the microwave oven, and in a source 3 inflows will be acoustic fluctuations over low frequencies. Capacities which there it is created by means of a wind, will be very big. I have considered that through an interval to the south of mountain in a current of second will pass 60 tons of air at speed of a wind of 15 metres per second. It will be only through a profile limited between tops of two mountains: the mountain Holatchahl and a height to the north of it.
For Donnie Eicher I have not managed to explain these features, and its advisers have not paid attention to these details though they are rather essential. Probably, the reason of our misunderstanding consisted that it was necessary to communicate in different national languages, and itself Donnie is the writer and the figure of cinema, instead of the scientist or the engineer. Therefore in its book it also was not reflected.
Here that I can shortly tell in a substantiation that I consider as the reason of all events on this place in 1959.
PS. You know, what there is site on Polish which writes on a theme of this case?
http://forum.fortyck.pl/topic/1156-tragedia-na-przeleczy-diatlowa-12-luty-1959-r/
I've been there a while ago, but recently they just post random photos from hikers' cameras and articles from this site... so I just visit this site.
I prefer another Polish site, whose author seems to believe in rocket theory. It's also a great site, because author knows Russian and had used a lot of great sources from Russian sites and books, and even translated original documents, like letters of tourists. Like this article for example, implying that Krivoschenko's brother apparently had believed in possibility of failed rocket launch from Kazakhstan, that supposedly was was going to reach Novaya Zemlya. His father believed that both Yuris were suddenly blinded by something (a detonation?), that's why they couldn't maintain a fire at the cedar tree.
For me, it doesn't sound believable, but people in despair, who just lost their loved ones, are susceptible to believe in anything and prefer to look for someone to blame, instead of believing in natural causes or mistakes of their close ones.
http://diatlow.pl/jurij-kriwoniszczenko/
Yes, I have seen the information on this site. Thanks that have given on its the reference, it will be added in my collection of foreign sites. Unfortunately there all the same that is on many other things, with copying of many errors and errors. On it I have found carrying over from a site
https://www.aquiziam.com/dyatlov-pass-incident/ , and I have found my comments and explanatories still in 2008 and 2009.
I think that the reference that relatives of the lost participants of Dyatlov group spoke are not the facts as they said only that was in use in the city of Sverdlovsk, and they did not use the initial information from a place where there were all events.
Brother Krivonishchenko could tell any words, but it is not the expert in rockets, therefore its data can be only its opinion and not be that that was actually. It is necessary to notice that «the rocket reason» is very much a popular belief in the city of Ekaterinburg, but is not truth. At the desire of Vladislav Karelin (the participant of searches of Dyatlov group) I have visited to archive of USSR rocket armies for this purpose what to receive the initial information on unique rocket start-up on February, 02nd 1959. All parametres of the rocket were such that it could not reach a place of Dyatlov group under no circumstances. It has been found on a falling place this very day, and this place is removed from a place of Dyatlov of group on 1800 km and the maximum range of this rocket there were 1200 km, and it has flown by only 980 km from a start place. Which too is removed from a place of Dyatlov group, almost on 2000 km. What or other starts of rockets in the USSR that day were not. And one more feature: Rocket start was at 14.28 (2:28 PM) while with probability in 99,99 % to 8:00 AM on February, 02nd 1959 all participants of Dyatlov group have already died.
By the way, as to rocket start to island Novaya Zemlya, it here at all at what. Because this start was not from Kazakhstan (probably he meant range Baikonur) and from Transbaikal (disctrict of the Chita city). And it has been started 3 or 4 years after there were events on Dyatlov pass.
Concerning mood of relatives and still some part of those who reads forums and writes on them, you have correctly noticed that they try is artificial to find whom the one who is guilty in destruction of this group.
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