Died Some Time After Feb. 1

[MDGross]

Just brainstorming with myself. What proof is there that the hikers died the night of Feb. 1? The last group diary entry is on Jan. 31. Is that the only indication? Or the 6-8 hour old food in their stomachs? The bodies were frozen for weeks. No way to pinpoint a time or even day of death. The autopsy reports state Feb. 1 as the day of death for all nine, but that seems like an educated guess. Wonder if they died some days after Feb. 1? That would certainly point to involvement by the KGB. Some explanations theorize they died before Feb. 1. But no need to alter photos or forge diary pages if they died after Feb. 1. Perhaps the group was apprehended on the night of Feb. 1 then questioned and tortured for several days. They were given something to eat some hours before being hauled back to the mountain. Why not let them build a fire and dig a snow den? It creates a more realistic scene and aids in the coverup. Since the hikers had set up the tent, no need to mess with that.

No doubt far-fetched, but not impossible.

[lucid-nonsense]

Just brainstorming with myself. What proof is there that the hikers died the night of Feb. 1? The last group diary entry is on Jan. 31. Is that the only indication? Or the 6-8 hour old food in their stomachs? The bodies were frozen for weeks. No way to pinpoint a time or even day of death. The autopsy reports state Feb. 1 as the day of death for all nine, but that seems like an educated guess. Wonder if they died some days after Feb. 1? That would certainly point to involvement by the KGB. Some explanations theorize they died before Feb. 1. But no need to alter photos or forge diary pages if they died after Feb. 1. Perhaps the group was apprehended on the night of Feb. 1 then questioned and tortured for several days. They were given something to eat some hours before being hauled back to the mountain. Why not let them build a fire and dig a snow den? It creates a more realistic scene and aids in the coverup. Since the hikers had set up the tent, no need to mess with that.

No doubt far-fetched, but not impossible.

Why cover it up at all, tho? Just say they're gone and it's best not to ask too many questions.

[MDGross]

Agree with you about who's going to ask questions if the group simply vanished. But it was such a gut-wrenching tragedy that maybe the KGB chose not to be implicated. Far fetched I grant you.

[sarapuk]

Just brainstorming with myself. What proof is there that the hikers died the night of Feb. 1? The last group diary entry is on Jan. 31. Is that the only indication? Or the 6-8 hour old food in their stomachs? The bodies were frozen for weeks. No way to pinpoint a time or even day of death. The autopsy reports state Feb. 1 as the day of death for all nine, but that seems like an educated guess. Wonder if they died some days after Feb. 1? That would certainly point to involvement by the KGB. Some explanations theorize they died before Feb. 1. But no need to alter photos or forge diary pages if they died after Feb. 1. Perhaps the group was apprehended on the night of Feb. 1 then questioned and tortured for several days. They were given something to eat some hours before being hauled back to the mountain. Why not let them build a fire and dig a snow den? It creates a more realistic scene and aids in the coverup. Since the hikers had set up the tent, no need to mess with that.

No doubt far-fetched, but not impossible.

How can you state that just because its possible that they died days after 1st Feb that that would certainly point to involvement by the  KGB   !   ?  Thats a very bold statement. There is absolutely nothing anywhere that suggests such a scenario. No evidence. Nothing.

[MDGross]

I'm making no bold statements, Sarapuk. As I said in my first post, I'm just brainstorming ideas. I said in my second post the it was a far-fetched theory. However, I could say that there's no certain evidence that they died on Feb. 1. No eyewitnesses, no way to pinpoint a specific night of death. These folks could have died days or even a week later. Who can say with certainty how many days these frozen bodies laid in the snow? My hope is that people with additional ideas will contribute to this conversation. I admit mine was just a clumsy start.

[Tim]

All theories are important, whether you think they might be clumbsey.
Think of it this way .If the KGB new where they were, so would the Soviet Government and would never launch a rocket at their own people.
They Soviets have better ways to get people to talk. They would have arrested all ten for sedition and made a show trial out of them before they had a chance to leave on their expedition.
The group of hikers have all their expectations documented from year to year registered at the school with whom the Soviets were aware of.
The only thing that would give that theory a second look is  that if
 Igor brought his short wave radio with him.
Lastly the Soviet Government would of been aware of any geniuses in the group and would of snatched then up for the Communist cause.

[MDGross]

Thanks Tim. It isn't my intention to make any bold statements. My hope is that a few posters will brainstorm along with me. I've been posting for a few months and do not have the depth of knowledge that others have. Thanks to Teddy, most of what I've learned is from this web site. But in this tragic case with so many open ends, everything should be questioned.

[sarapuk]

Any suggestion that the KGB were involved will be a bold suggestion for sure.  Because we have absolutely no proof or anything resembling proof that any such organisation was involved.  We could come up with all sorts of ways that the Dyatlov Group met their demise. What is for sure is that since the collapse of the USSR more and more information comes to light.

[neni_cesty_zpet]

I dont believe that CIA/KGB was involved...in the middle of the cold night in remote area?  Under the open sky?  I don't believe that.

[Naufragia]

"What proof is there that the hikers died the night of Feb. 1? The last group diary entry is on Jan. 31. Is that the only indication? Or the 6-8 hour old food in their stomachs? The bodies were frozen for weeks. No way to pinpoint a time or even day of death. The autopsy reports state Feb. 1 as the day of death for all nine, but that seems like an educated guess. Wonder if they died some days after Feb. 1?"

1 February 1959 (or early 2 February) as the date of whatever happened at the tent is a well founded deduction, and so 1 February as the proposed date of death of the hikers naturally follows. However, the bodies were found 3+ weeks and then 3 months later, frozen and decaying. That would seem to leave some leeway of at least a few days after 1 February for a date of death. I don't know if forensics these days could be any more accurate, in the circumstances?

[sarapuk]

"What proof is there that the hikers died the night of Feb. 1? The last group diary entry is on Jan. 31. Is that the only indication? Or the 6-8 hour old food in their stomachs? The bodies were frozen for weeks. No way to pinpoint a time or even day of death. The autopsy reports state Feb. 1 as the day of death for all nine, but that seems like an educated guess. Wonder if they died some days after Feb. 1?"

1 February 1959 (or early 2 February) as the date of whatever happened at the tent is a well founded deduction, and so 1 February as the proposed date of death of the hikers naturally follows. However, the bodies were found 3+ weeks and then 3 months later, frozen and decaying. That would seem to leave some leeway of at least a few days after 1 February for a date of death. I don't know if forensics these days could be any more accurate, in the circumstances?

There is some information that gives clues as to times of death. Look up the Autopsy Reports etc.