The exact location of the Dyatlov group's tent

[Олег Таймень]

The exact location of the tent site photograph in 1959 has been found. Of the 200 photographs taken in the winter of 2023 and 2024, the most suitable one has been selected. Now we know the exact location



This place differs from Buyanov's place by 200 meters. This is the most gentle slope of the Kholat Syakhl spur. There can be no avalanche in this place. Buyanov chose a place for his version that does not correspond to reality. His place is actually avalanche-prone. But this place was chosen specifically for the avalanche version. I am sure that Buyanov is misleading everyone.

1. In March 2023 and in the winter of 2024, more than 200 photographs were taken of the supposed location of the Dyatlov group's tent from different points, from different angles.
2. In the 1959 photo of the searchers, a vertical line was drawn strictly in the center of the frame (red line). This line runs along the location of the removed canvas tent.
3. In the same photo of the 1959 searchers, to the right of the central line, four peaks of the most noticeable outliers on the ridge in the background were marked with blue dots (these peaks are clearly visible in all modern photographs and the 1959 photograph. No one doubts their identity..
4. Since there are no noticeable outliers to the left of the red central line, the boundaries of the depression were marked, which is visible in all modern photographs and the 1959 photograph.
5. From the very bottom of the central red line, fan lines were drawn to four points of the outlier peaks and two points of the depression boundaries. The resulting landmarks for searching for a similar angle in modern photographs.
6. Over the course of one week, all the shots from 2023 and 2024 were viewed. Modern photographs were aligned along the horizon, relative to the photograph 1959. Modern photographs were scaled relative to the 1959 photograph. The same landmarks were applied to them as to the 1959 photograph. One single photograph was found that was the most suitable.
7. Two photographs (the found photograph of 2024 and the photograph of 1959) were superimposed on each other in a photo editing program.

The result is visible using the function of changing the transparency of one of the layers (all lines clearly matched):

















Here is the photo that turned out to be the most suitable for the angle of the 1959 photo:


The photo was taken on February 2, 2024. On the right side is the snowmobile of Exp-2024. Further to the right is the half-barrel tent in which they lived.
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[Axelrod]

In the middle of the film:

....And the guys died, some on the mountain, some in the forest. Indeed, the hypothesis very convincingly proves all the damage. This version has been gained through years of suffering, and, according to Axelrod, it covers everything. He said this: «It is necessary to convey this conjecture to the people, as they say, while I am alive.» The version is certainly good, materialistic, but there is one problem in it: in the place where the tent was, and on the entire foreseeable slope, that is, above and below there, from right to left, in principle, there can be no talk of any kind of avalanche. Any specialist will confirm this.

ORIGINAL: И ребята погибли, кто на горе, кто в лесу… Действительно, гипотеза очень убедительно доказывает все повреждения. Эта версия выстрадана годами, и, по мнению Моисея Абрамовича, она всё охватывает. Он сказал так: «Надо эту догадку донести до людей, как говорится, пока я жив». Версия, безусловно хороша, материалистична, но есть в ней одна неувязка: на том месте, где стояла палатка, и на всём склоне обозримом, то есть выше-ниже там, справа-слева, ни о какой лавине там речь идти в принципе не может. Любой специалист это подтвердит.

[Ziljoe]

What is the situation behind and above the tent? I am not sure if the photos depict the exact location ? How tall were the tress in the middle of the modern photo?

[Teddy]

Oleg added in the original post explanation what he did points 1-7.

[Axelrod]

If Buyanov found an avalanche-prone place there, then you shouldn't rely on it as reliable information.
This is only necessary for his theory. The Ural Mountains within the Sverdlovsk region are generally not prone to avalanches.

In those places, a snowfall is possible - this is a 60% cliff at the source of the Auspiya River (the place that Dmitry Borisov discovered in January 2023), also a cliff in front of Otorten at the source of the Lozva River (Lake Lonely Goose) and other sources.

Avalanches begin to occur at an angle of 30 degrees. Or if a slope of 15-20 degrees is covered with slippery ice on which fresh snow has fallen. Was the slope where Dyatlov came covered with ice?

If you move 200 meters from the supposed tent site in any direction, the landscape is the same everywhere, and an avalanche will not occur there. In order to get buried there, you have to try specially for this, use shovels, dig the ground with an excavator or move snow with a bulldozer.

With the same success, you can achieve a landslide in the summer, if you try it really hard.

Yes. In order not to freeze in the winter, you can come in the summer and dig the ground so that you are covered with earth.
In those places where an avalanche occurs in the winter, there is a rockfall in the summer.

Although avalanches occur in the winter, they usually occur close to zero degrees. Pressed tracks also occur at warm temperatures. For the weather to change dramatically in 2-3 hours, so that you can freeze as at minus 50 degrees, this is simply fantastic.

[Ziljoe]

Oleg added in the original post explanation what he did points 1-7.

The photos have changed!

[GlennM]

It appears the photographer filmed from a higher elevation than those being photographed. There appears to be a measurable slope. Too, in order to level the tent, it would be unwise, if not impossible to excavate hard frozen earth with simple hand tools. Far better is to scout out mounded snow or find a recessed hollow in the land where in either case, snow could be worked with simple tools to level the tent floor by addition or subtraction of snow.

The classic recovery photograph of the collapsed tent shows much blocky snow immediately next to the tent. It came from somewhere. Common sense tells me that it would be too much work for the hikers to gather up that snow and build a barricade with it when they pitched their tent. The snow appears dense and blocky.

An avalanche at the tent site would have been reported by rescuers. This arguement of making an issue of this is beating a dead horse, it goes nowhere. We have confirmation that the rescuers knew about snow slides when they reported on the obliteration of footprints further down the slope.

Any investigator must also take into consideration real world practicalities when identifying the tent site. By this I mean to think as Igor would. Those practicalities include (1) find ground that could be snow levelled (2)find  ground that affords a degree of protection for a cross wind pitched tent (3) locate ground that provides reasonable access to an improvised latrine (4) determine the afore mentioned latrine is not to be crossed when going to or returning from Ortoten (5) find a location which places the hikers in an advantageous position to acquire Ortoten, meaning a location where ground gained from the previous day's hike is not lost by backtracking to a camp.

(5) above implies that the criterion for a safe and secure place to pitch a tent must have been foremost on Igor's mind as they progressed toward Ortoten. It is unthinkable to believe he would randomly stop on a bare exposed slope and pitch a tent. No, he would look forward to find someplace which gives the party some relief from a katabatic wind and blowing snow. What he and others did not know, nor could predict is the intensity and duration of deteriorating conditions on 1079.

Therefore, when we want to say, " this is the place", we must also be certain Igor would have said it too.

[time2fly]

Oleg, thank you for your interesting analysis.

However, did you consider that your photos were taken at a different focal length as the original ones from the search group?

There is probably no information available about the focal length of the searcher cameras, so to me it would make sense to also apply your markers in a horizontal way, to rule out any focal distortion.

[GlennM]

If the last camp site and the actual location of the tent were in different, then why? It seems the biggest secret would be to hide uranium prospecting. Anyone with half an interest would assume Russians were looking for nuclear material during the cold war. The USA U2 spy plane would film any area thought to be of military interest. The worst kept secrets are military ones. Covering up accidental or intentional deaths of the hikers does not hide the elephant in the room. If anything, it calls attention to the whole business of prospecting. There is no reason to assume the tent was pitched anywhere but on the slope of 1079 on the last night. The unknown compelling force was the weather and the subsequent failure of the tent itself. If an issue is made over Zolo and Lyuda's injuries perhaps it was related to blasting when everyone was at or near the cedar waiting out the weather.

[Ziljoe]

Interesting thought's. However we work the model of people testing for uranium or anything else for that matter, we know and the authorities should have known, there's random Mansi living and hunting in and around Dyatlov pass. I can't apprehend that there would be random explosions being conducted for uranium/gold or any other minerals without informing the local Mansi . I don't think for one second that such activities would occur without basic communication.

[GlennM]

The Mansi connection is a valid one. If geologists are going to move in, blast and drive away the Mansi's winter food sources, there would be some tall explaining expected. Mansi could put a premature end to that business if there is no cooperation.

The reservations you bring up are another good reason to believe the tent was pitched where it was eventually found and nowhere else. If the location can be attained with certainty, the questions about slope, depressions in the landscape, and the finding of physical evidence might clear up some of the mystery,  but after this long and so many others scavenging the slope, I have doubts.