The tent again

[amashilu]

The tent is just weird. I've read so much about it, I'm on overload and can no longer make sense of anything.

First, clarification:  In the following picture, two large rectangular panels are shaded, indicating these are "openings." Where are these tent panels? The text says they are missing. Were they missing when the tent was found?

[Teddy]

They were missing when the tent was found. This is one of the many details that speak of either staging or botched investigation.

[Ziljoe]

They were missing when the tent was found. This is one of the many details that speak of either staging or botched investigation.

I don't remember reading that anywhere !?!?! Do you have a link?. I assumed they would have been used for resources at the tent location .

[amashilu]

This is amazing! Has anyone ever tried to figure out where they are, or what they might have been used for? I don't think they would "waste time" creating these large artistic rectangles for a quick exit.

[Teddy]

I don't remember reading that anywhere !?!?! Do you have a link? I assumed they would have been used for resources at the tent location.

I asked Igor Pavlov when I first encounter this conundrum. Here is our correspondence about this:

From: Teodora Hadjiyska <teddy7@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:51 AM
Subject: Question
To: ss <s777.s@mail.ru>
Igor, are the missing pieces of the tent discussed anywhere? What happened to the missing pieces of the tent?


From: ss <s777.s@mail.ru>
Date: Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: Question
To: Teodora Hadjiyska <teddy7@gmail.com>
Nobody knows for sure. There are various theories.
I believe Yarovoy most of all, who described in his book how the prosecutor (Tempalov?) personally tore apart the tent (lifted the top along with the snow to get to the things inside).
There is no information where did the pieces go.


From: Teodora Hadjiyska <teddy7@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: Question
To: ss <s777.s@mail.ru>

Yarovoy: "A thick layer of wind-compressed snow lay on top of the tent. Only in one spot did the tourists attempt to remove it—was a dark cloth with holes in it through which their belongings could be seen..."

Yarovoy implies that the hole in the snow cover of the tent was removed in one place by Dyatlov group?

This means that the snow on top of the tent was accumulated while the group was still inside, is this what he says?

Not sure if tourists are Dyatlov group or could he mean the searchers.
How is it possible no snow to have fallen over the wholes in the canvas of the tent?
This means after the tent has been staged (and covered with compacted snow by the wind), someone (perhaps 2 people) found it, cleared a spot, peed, forgot a flashlight on top of the tent (so maybe it was dark) but didn't leave any fresh footprints? The footprints allegedly left by the dead hikers (to the people that staged the tent) are too many for two people. The could have been on wide skis. But Mansi don't have flashlights. What kind of skis did Pashin and Cheglakov use?


From: ss <s777.s@mail.ru>
Date: Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 12:52 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Question
To: Teodora Hadjiyska <teddy7@gmail.com>

Not sure if tourists are Dyatlov group or could he mean the searchers.
I think Yarovoy meant searchers. Otherwise, the lack of snow in this place is difficult (or rather impossible) to explain.
 
What kind of skis did Pashin and Cheglakov use?
There is no such information.

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Remember that after Dyatlov group the tent has been ravished by searchers, prosecutors, and that is only the ones we know of from the case files. Who first found the tent is not known. Read: When was the tent found and why was it kept a secret for two days

[Teddy]

As it turns out so many times in this case the "Eureka" moments dim down and eventually drown into the chaos of exactly how the investigation went down. No one preserved the tent as a crime scene. Everybody was poking, pulling, cutting etc. What we do know is that Brusnitsyn and Sharavin dragged the tent with its contents for half a mile towards the landing site at the rock outlier. When Kuryakov revisited the case files and location came out with the statement that the Dyatlov group was actually pulling the tent from under the snow holding it by these big pieces of fabric. How did he come out with the idea no one knows.
If you want to read what the Russians say about this, here is a link: https://taina.li/forum/index.php?topic=369.1350
"I don't understand what the problem is with the missing pieces.
Let's say Tempalov tore off a piece to conveniently inspect the inside of the tent. Should he draw up a report for tearing it off and throwing it away? Add it to the case file? So he threw it away, the wind blew the piece away somewhere, and the rest of the tent still has plenty of material for forensic analysis, if needed. And judging by Korotayev's account, the investigators weren't planning any forensic analysis of the tent; they simply wanted to finish the inspection report in their office and that's it. Aunt Nyura thwarted their plans, saying the cuts were from the inside. Klinov immediately came running with his expert, and she confirmed the cuts were from the inside. And Ivanov then formally formalized everything, having Churkina have the lab forensic analysis."

[amashilu]

It would all make a very funny comedy show, if it weren't the subject of a tragedy.

[sarapuk]

It would all make a very funny comedy show, if it weren't the subject of a tragedy.

Well, it would make good theatre. Drama maybe. Or a detective show. There are many factors at play in the Dyatlov mystery. And each one could lead off in a different direction, which would be confusing. And then, of course, we also have factors coming together to add to the confusion. As an example, let's take the tent. It's a factor in its own right, but then it's added to by the location of it when found by the searchers. Add the weather factor, and we have a potential for a weather event that damages the tent and drives out the Dyatlov Group. We then have to figure out if a weather event could be severe enough to do that. And after we have explored all the factors surrounding the tent, we have to move on to the slope, and then the forest and then the ravine. Each of those factors has additions as well. No wonder this mystery drags on. 

 

[Hunter]

There is a suggestion that these two pieces could have been lost while the searchers were packing up the tent and things for transport to Ivdel.

[ilahiyol]

There is a suggestion that these two pieces could have been lost while the searchers were packing up the tent and things for transport to Ivdel.

Russians don't value such trivial items. And because they were so light, they were likely swept away by the strong winds. No one went after them. In any case, the incident was initially a lost cause. And the two pieces of cloth weren't particularly important. Yet, those two pieces of cloth could have had significant tears and cuts. Or something else.