December 10, 2019, 02:36:05 PM
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Author Topic: Resistance goup maybe?  (Read 2352 times)

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March 28, 2019, 01:27:17 PM
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sarapuk

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I don't think it was escapees from a gulag. For one thing, trying to escape during winter was known to cause almost certain death for those who didn't have a nearby support network.

I just read an essay by an anthropologist about attitudes toward the gulags in the area, and she stated that the Mansi were used as bounty hunters of escapees. But she said that, from what she could tell, it happened far less often than it was threatened. The administrators of the gulags would tell prisoners that if they escaped the Mansi or Khanty would catch them. Like telling children the boogy man would get them.

Still, many of the "settlers" living in the area had been former inmates of gulags who remained there after the institutions were closed and they were freed. I think the loggers fall into this category--hence the comments in the diary about their roughness. There were also people in internal exile--many Jewish people, some ethnic Germans like the forestry guy--to keep them from away from the European part of Russia to prevent them from defecting. So a lot of area residents would have been exposed to the barbaric conditions in the gulags and to the forms of violence practiced there. That is one of the things that makes it hard to determine who the attackers may have been: many different groups would have the same "tool kit" because of Stalin's practice of mass incarceration, where political dissidents would be thrown in with common criminals and psychopaths.

We dont know if they were attacked by anyone. The Murder Theory is one of many.
DB

March 29, 2019, 04:11:13 AM
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Didn't knew that khanti and mansy people revolted and fought against soviet collectivization. Sure, it's more than 25 years before the Dyatlov incident, but it's still interesting to know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazym_rebellion
http://www.hrono.ru/sobyt/1931sssr.html

March 29, 2019, 01:38:30 PM
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sarapuk

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Didn't knew that khanti and mansy people revolted and fought against soviet collectivization. Sure, it's more than 25 years before the Dyatlov incident, but it's still interesting to know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazym_rebellion
http://www.hrono.ru/sobyt/1931sssr.html

Yes good information.  Similar to what happens to many tribal people around the World from time to time. Think American Indians. A lot can happen in 25 years though. They can be killing one another one year and then making peace the next year.
DB