Reply #12
You can find it. Be an on line detective. The SAM base was northeast of Sverdlovsk. The train to IVDEL ran through it. The Powers incident was the first time that the Soviet Union stopped the overflight espionage of U2 plane. Always in murder, first question - WHY? If it is worth risking thermonuclear obliteration, isn't it then a sufficient reason for murder?
Why, murder? Wild Menk, drunk Manzi, rogue MGB? Really? To kill little Princes of Technology of new SSSR? To kill graduates of the premier technical college during a nuclear Cold War? Who dares? But if it is related to espionage on S300 SAM - yes, their lives are not worth that.
Read.
I still am silent about the Nine out of respect. They deserve the respect they have not been granted.
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[ the overflight espionage of U2 plane.]I do not believe in an espionage case in the genre that Rakitin. Scientific and academic circles obviously had certain relations with the Soviet army.
But to each his own job.
The 9 hikers had no responsibilities, nor any specific information about the operation and guarding of military air defense installations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-to-air_missilehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-75_Dvina ••• --->
[Why, murder?]In the case of nine suspicious and difficult to explain deaths, the first question is absolutely not WHY but: is the cause of death of criminal or natural origin?
In the case of Kolgomorova, Slobodin, Dyatlov and Doroshenko, one does not need to be very knowledgeable to understand that they were first stunned by violent blows and then then abandoned thus immobilized in the cold to deliberately provoke certain death (more or less rapid). It is an easy and economical killing process that has been widely used around Gulag camps since 1929.
Krivonischenko was tortured by fire and while he was screaming in pain the torturers had fun pushing his hand down in his throat.
Just read calmly and without prejudice and the obvious should appear to you:
https://dyatlovpass.com/deathThis is what Eduard Tumanov says - or suggests - to whom you cannot deny a certain competence on this subject.
Thus you begin to understand that the DPI is a serious failure for the KGB, which has proved to be incompetent and incapable of protecting the lives of the 9 "little Princes of Technology of the new SSSR" i.e. the "graduates of the premier technical college during a nuclear Cold War" .
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[Who dares?]It was some of the mighty chiefs of the NKVD in charge of certain camps of the Gulag linked probably to the Ivdellag. ;
Indeed the secret report of Khrushchev, of February 24, 1956, (which is very long and repetitive, but almost amusing to read), clearly implied the destruction of the NKVD (and therefore the liquidation of some officers guilty of atrocities) thanks to the efforts of the agents of the KGB (13 March 1954-6 November 1991), which was partly achieved until October 14, 1964 : "when the Presidium and the Central Committee each voted to accept Khrushchev's "voluntary" request to retire from his office...."
These officers (or already ex-officers) of the NKVD feared, with good reason (because like Josef Stalin, they had become typical psychopaths) of being judged and justly condemned to death as had been their most famous and excellent colleagues sentenced to death during the the Khrushchev Thaw period (1953-1964), for instance:
Bogdan Koboulov (1904-1953)
Lavrenti Beria(1899-1953)
Mikhaïl Ryoumine(1913-1954)
Viktor Abakoumov(1908-1954)
Vsevolod Merkoulov(1895-1954)
Amaïak Koboulov (1906-1955)
Boris Rodos(1905-1956)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Rodos« Rodos was sentenced to death on February 26, one day after the Secret Speech. »To understand the progressive depravity of some guards like their master Stalin, (which was therefore understood by Khrushchev in 1956)
see also : Drawings from the Gulag, by Danzig Baldaev(1925-2005), in English :
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/drawings-gulag-danzig-baldaev-reviewhttps://www.amazon.fr/Drawings-Gulag-Danzig-Baldaev/dp/0956356249https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2,_%D0%94%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B3_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87or
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Балдаев,_Данциг_Сергеевич
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[ I still am silent about the Nine out of respect]My conception of respect is different.
Reading and careful studies focusing on Eduard Tumanov, Per Inge Oestmoen and Aleks Kandr have led me to conclude that the most likely explanation for DPI is that this "compelling unknown force" or "overwhelming force" is none other than the surprise attack of 3 mercenary killers, (certainly former Stalinist guards specializing in the pursuit and liquidation of the rare escapees from the camps) which the 9 hikers, despite a courageous but inevitably vain defense, were unable to resist .
Reply #13
Hi Jacques-Emile
Are [you ?] saying they were murdered because of the SAM base?
Indeed Jacques-Emile probably wanted to facilitate the reading of his post by being rather brief.
But as I am slow of the brain and not very intelligent the brevity of his comment did not allow me to understand what he wanted to explain.
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