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General Discussion / Re: The exhumation is not Semyon Zolotarev

« Last post by Teddy on Today at 11:29:02 AM »

Alexey Rakitin is a pen-name of a group of people who started with science fiction like "Cossacks in Space"
They wrote that Zolotaryov had golden teeth which he obviously doesn't.

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General Discussion / Re: The exhumation is not Semyon Zolotarev

« Last post by Arjan on Today at 11:14:55 AM »

50 % or less of the answer to the question: 'Can we know the approximate height of the skeleton and the exact height of Zolo?'

The autopsy report of the body who had been investigated under the name of 'Aleksander Alekseevich Zolotaryov', states:

'Findings after the removal of the clothes: the body is male of satisfactory nutrition and proper constitution with a length of 172 cm'

After studying this case for more than 5 years, reading most material available, and following discussions on facebook groups and Dyatlovpass.com,

I am not fully convinced that it has been Semyon who had been investigated by the coroner.

If the description about Semyon in the work or the journalist collective Aleksej Rakitin is correct, than Semyon has very probably been a person with disguises.

Next to this during several stages of the Great War, it had been not hard for soldiers to shift identity by taken identity papers of companions (e.g. who had died).
Source: Schlechter, Brandon M., The Stuff of Soldiers - A History of the Red Army in World War II through Objects.

Last remarks from my side:

1. the dead body on the table of the coroner under the name of Semyon may have been a local guide: this local guide had known the source in the ravine. He had guided Lyudmila and Thibo to this source for fetching water.
Hint: the tattoos on his arm

2. the person Semyon as described by Aleksej Rakitin had easily been able to survive the night for 7 group members, by staying in the tent together with Zina and Rustem. The next morning he may have returned in the track made by the group before: in this manner, no trace of his return had been visible in the snow, except for a very well trained local person

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General Discussion / Re: The radioactive trace on the Dyatlov Pass

« Last post by Axelrod on Today at 09:12:50 AM »

It was Nature, not Man made radioactive substances that precipitated the tragedy.

With the same success we can say - my wife did not cheat on me!

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General Discussion / Re: The exhumation is not Semyon Zolotarev

« Last post by Ziljoe on Today at 09:08:17 AM »

Plus the autopsy report matches the filings/ crowns on upper and lower jaw with the exhumed skull.

On the right side of the upper jaw there are two dental crowns and a tooth of white metal; on the lower jaw there are four dental crowns of white metal

This is photographed on the exhumed skull.

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General Discussion / Re: The exhumation is not Semyon Zolotarev

« Last post by Ziljoe on Today at 07:45:17 AM »

The teeth in the lower jaw match the postmortem photo with the exhumed skull ?.

They have a very distinct pattern. I would say it's the same person.

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General Discussion / Re: The exhumation is not Semyon Zolotarev

« Last post by Teddy on Today at 07:43:51 AM »

Can we know the approximate height of the skeleton and the exact height of Zolo?

Have you seen Semyon Zolotaryov's height recorded anywhere?
https://dyatlovpass.com/semyon-zolotaryov

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General Discussion / Re: The radioactive trace on the Dyatlov Pass

« Last post by GlennM on Today at 07:17:02 AM »

" Soap bubble", a clever use of the language. I like it. A geiger counter was at hand. Why not use it, if for no other reason than to pass a few idle moments, or appear to be thorough? Then again, by using the detector on human remains, it is natural for someone in authority to question why. That, in and of itself, produces answers and poses a question which is going to make things worse for all concerned. Even now, six decades later, the soap bubble has not popped. It was Nature, not Man made radioactive substances that precipitated the tragedy.

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General Discussion / Re: The exhumation is not Semyon Zolotarev

« Last post by GlennM on Today at 07:01:48 AM »

Can we know the approximate height of the skeleton and the exact height of Zolo?

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General Discussion / Re: Where the Ravine 4 lay

« Last post by GlennM on Today at 06:57:40 AM »

The explanations all have merit and any could be the actual truth. On the other hand, if assassins were going to chuck the remains into a ditch, they would never rest in these postures. The way the ravine 4 lay shows what those living people did at the last minute of their lives.

What about paradoxical warmth? I would think all would assume a fetal position with bent elbows and knees. Instead, the three men are laying in a posture that looks relativelg unstressed, if not protective. If Lyuda took a tumble, I would think she would be facing the other way, if that is the direction they were travelling. As is, prayer makes as much sense as anything. Alternately, she could have been trying to get back with her friends, but unable to do so. Too, I find nothing indicative of any shedding garments, as one might expect in extreme hypothermia.

In terms of mind set, I am going to make a case for loyalty and lucidity over self preservation. Consider this: on the slope 3, Igor looks to have been assisted before the end. The Cedar 2 were obviously cared for. The Ravine 4 also evidence of conscious behavior  of solidarity and cooperation. I find it heroic.

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General Discussion / Re: The exhumation is not Semyon Zolotarev

« Last post by Teddy on Today at 06:08:35 AM »

There were no dental records but the skull superimposition was made at the time of exhumation by an forensic expert Sergey Nikitin.
https://dyatlovpass.com/zolotaryov-exhumation-2