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The stove / Re: Why did they leave
« Last post by ahabmyth on Today at 03:33:48 PM »
The stove theory and the group having to leave the tent dosnt hold up at all. 1. It had not been assembled and was found still stowed in the corner of the tent. Why - well there's a possibility that some screws or bolts were missing (it didnt com in one piece), it would have come with a piece of asbestos tape/cloth that is used to seal each part that screwed together, if this was missing you would suffer from inhaling toxic gases. 2. I have been in a smoke filled house as a kid 8yr old. Luckily it was just smoke and not fire ,we waited outside while the fire brigade checked the affected rooms for embers it turned out to be a chair and carpet that didnt catch alight. We went back into the house after about 1hr of letting the smoke disperse, it affected 3-4 rooms. 3. If there was a fire/smoke in the tent the group wouldnt slash the tent ,they were not stupid in that sense.
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General Discussion / Re: Positions of bodies
« Last post by GlennM on Today at 11:09:08 AM »
In order to better understand the survival sequence relating to the Yuris, ascertain where the Yuris' garments ended up. Decide whether those garments were taken to preserve life or obfuscate criminal activity. Decide if placement of the remains, unburied and adjascent to a local landmark, was done for retrieval by the hikers or authorities at a later time. Does it appear likely that assasins or conspirators are involved given the obvious nauture of the findings?

I believe it would be shortsighted and abundantly selfish of the grouo to have any sub team ov the DP9 leave the tent on 1079 and take all the attendant risks in order to supply creature comforts for those who remained. If firewood was the goal, then they all go to the woods ( as Teddy supposes) make camp and try their luck.  I can only imagine the hikers abandoning the tent all together because they feared for the safety of all. Choose a reason, they all have been advanced!  What is less discussed is whether IRZ's return to the tent signals that the reason they left is no longer a concern or outweighed by circumstance.
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General Discussion / Re: Positions of bodies
« Last post by amashilu on Today at 08:17:49 AM »
I cant agree with others being responsible for all the deaths. Noise travels in this environment night or day and surely would have been noticed. Also no other evidence was found other than the nines prints. Looking at the creek after after recent snow its easy to believe the many perils that lie just beneath the surface. Being found under 13ft of snow this would qualify for the 4 being found the way they were.

Looked at from the perspective of the 2 Yuris and the Ravine4 having died elsewhere than where they were found does not necessarily mean that they were murdered by others. It could also mean that the last three (Rustem, Zina, and Igor) positioned them respectfully.
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General Discussion / Re: Positions of bodies
« Last post by ahabmyth on Today at 03:33:13 AM »
The two Yuris probably died after using not very successful bodyheat and this is why they were found in the condition and positions they were.
I cant agree with others being responsible for all the deaths. Noise travels in this environment night or day and surely would have been noticed. Also no other evidence was found other than the nines prints. Looking at the creek after after recent snow its easy to believe the many perils that lie just beneath the surface. Being found under 13ft of snow this would qualify for the 4 being found the way they were.
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General Discussion / Re: The Four
« Last post by ahabmyth on Today at 02:07:30 AM »
Yes you can clearly see that the two under the cedar tree with their fire not having enough fuel to sustain them, decided to quickly dig this den laying down branches and clothes from the dead. Who might not have been fully dead and so donated their excess clothes to the dens carpet.
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General Discussion / Re: The Four
« Last post by GlennM on July 14, 2025, 01:08:09 PM »
The pallet of branches and clothing at the corners had got to figure in to the situation.
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General Discussion / Re: How long can you live with a cracked skull?
« Last post by GlennM on July 14, 2025, 01:05:18 PM »
Is the suggestion that Rustem was beaten about the head by someone he knew? If not, then  was it not fortunate that he, Igor and Zina were able to elude more abuse? Surely, malefactors are not going to let witnesses and the victim go free. Perhaps Rustem fell hard.I do not think the slab slide was responsible for his injuries. It happened closer to the cedar.
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General Discussion / Re: Positions of bodies
« Last post by GlennM on July 14, 2025, 12:56:30 PM »
I think that soaked clothing from running water figures into the fate of the Yuris'. That in turn means they ran into trouble elsewhere, perhaps digging a tunnel is the ravine over water?
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General Discussion / Positions of bodies
« Last post by amashilu on July 14, 2025, 11:22:18 AM »
It seems probable to me that the bodies of the ravine4 and the two Yuris were moved after death and "positioned." Maybe also Igor's body.

Therefore, I am starting to divorce the two Yuris' deaths from the cedar tree. I don't know if they had anything to do with the cedar at all, aside from being positioned at its base after their deaths. Is there really evidence that one or both them climbed the tree? Fell from the tree? Cut a window of branches so they could watch the tent? How about being burnt in the little campfire that was not well-tended and only burned for 90 minutes? I am moving them away from the cedar and looking at other possibilities.

Same with the 4 in the ravine. Their injuries killed them quickly, so it's possible they died elsewhere, were brought to the ravine after death and positioned.

Hopefully, thinking like this can open up more options for what happened, instead of binding my thinking to the cedar and some kind of snow dump at the ravine.
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General Discussion / Re: How long can you live with a cracked skull?
« Last post by Axelrod on July 14, 2025, 04:07:31 AM »
Translation of article in Hebrew newspaper.
this is about the possible transfer of Rustem Slobodin or Kolya Thibault after a head injury.

(https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3408295,00.html)

Boy who was attacked at the "From Russia with Love" festival has died.
(Avi Cohen and Achiya Rabad Published: June 04, 2007, 08:30)

About two weeks ago, 17-year-old Pavel Kozlov returned to his room at the boarding school after being beaten in a fight in Yehoshua Park. The next day, he lost consciousness and was hospitalized at Rambam Hospital, where he died last night.

Pavel Kozlov, the 17-year-old boy who was attacked by youths during the "From Russia with Love" event in Ganei Yehoshua in Tel Aviv about two weeks ago, died early Monday morning at Rambam Hospital in Haifa. Kozlov's body, which had been fighting for life for the past two weeks, was transferred to the Institute of Forensic Medicine to determine the circumstances of his death.

The tragic incident that ended in Kozlov's death occurred more than two weeks ago, on Thursday, as a result of a fight during the annual "From Russia with Love" music festival. The boy involved in the fight returned to the Yemin Ord boarding school near Zichron Yaakov and refused medical treatment.

Kozlov was found in his room by friends around 11:00 a.m. the next day, suffering from seizures. Paramedic Roy Otmazgin, who arrived at the emergency room from MDA Carmel Hospital, reported that the boy was unconscious and had obvious signs of violence on his body, especially "flashlights" in his eyes.

"Examinations revealed data indicating severe head trauma," Otmazgin said. "He had hemorrhages all over his body, especially in the eye area. We realized that he was conscious last night and refused to be evacuated for medical care."

Kozlov was transferred to Rambam Hospital in Haifa on a ventilator in serious condition.

Kozlov was hospitalized in the neurosurgical intensive care unit and underwent surgery to reduce intracranial pressure. "We hoped that he would recover, since he briefly regained consciousness after the surgery," the hospital said. However, the young man soon lost consciousness again, never regained consciousness, and died from complications caused by the injury.

So far, police have arrested one person on suspicion of assault – Sergei Tenshko, a 21-year-old soldier from Haifa. It is assumed that he and Kozlov had known each other since the time when Tanashko spent several weeks living in a boarding school.

The Ministry of Education reported that the general director of the ministry had appointed an investigative committee to investigate the circumstances that led to the injury and death of the student.


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