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General Discussion / Re: I'm as curious as everyone else.
« Last post by Teddy on September 08, 2026, 10:42:38 PM »
Teddy, he could be a Russian-speaking American. For example, either an immigrant or a second-generation American with an excellent command of Russian.

When registering there is a choice of English and Russian for the navigation of the forum. I can see from her profile setup that she did not choose Russian.
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General Discussion / Re: I'm as curious as everyone else
« Last post by GlennM on September 08, 2026, 03:08:32 PM »
nMy advice is to be wary of social media on the topic. Currently, assassination, UFO's and conspiracies are all the rage. It is an indication of relaxation of restrictions of expression in certain countries.

The heart of the matter has to do with leaving the tent on 1079. For me, that goes back to an aborted attempt the day before to cross the high ridge to Mt.Ortoten, the hiker's goal.  This attempt is a consequence of the team leader Igor Dyatlov hearing and ignoring the warning of the area forester Rempel, who advised against making a winter attempt on Ortoten.

Igor was not going to abandon the hike. There was too much to lose in terms of certification and prestige to not make the attempt.

The group made a difficult hike up one river tributary, the Auspya valley and crossed over to the next valley, the Lovza, keeping to the high ground on the bare ridge above in order to not have to plow through deep snow and bushwhack through thin forest a mile below.  Here is where opinions diverge. I contend that bad weather and a wind driven snow slide  laid the tent down on top of them and they had to cut their way out and head to the forest below  (a mile downhill) to wait for better conditions to repair the tent and continue. In my estimation, the Russian Winter and a faulty snow cave sealed their fate. Others in the Forum, YouTube and in printed material have vastly different takes on it.

Some members in the forum love a mystery. Others want to publish and profit from it.  My friendly advice is to remember, all behavior is motivated. What seems reasonable in a warm room today may not be so obvious on a cold, dark and snowy night six decades ago. You will soon learn that the "how" of things is easier to decipher that the "why" of things. This is the reason the mystery persists. Welcome to the forum.
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General Discussion / Re: I'm as curious as everyone else.
« Last post by amashilu on September 08, 2026, 11:27:00 AM »
Teddy, he could be a Russian-speaking American. For example, either an immigrant or a second-generation American with an excellent command of Russian.

Hunter,
If you look at the very bottom of Kayer3's message, below the horizontal line, s/he writes this:
 
"I first heard about the Dyatlov Pass Incident when I was about 8 years old when my dad came across it and told me about the case. I became obsessed with the case after that. My dream is to visit Dyatlov Pass one day."

S/he writes very well in English.
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General Discussion / Re: I'm as curious as everyone else.
« Last post by Hunter on September 08, 2026, 10:18:43 AM »
Teddy, he could be a Russian-speaking American. For example, either an immigrant or a second-generation American with an excellent command of Russian.

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General Discussion / Re: I'm as curious as everyone else.
« Last post by Teddy on September 08, 2026, 12:21:31 AM »
Несмотря на все свидетельства, обнаруженные за прошедшие десятилетия, по-прежнему остается один вопрос: что же на самом деле произошло на перевале Дятлова?

Why are you writing in Russian? Aren't you American? Or do you think if you ask in Russian you will get better answers?
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General Discussion / Re: I'm as curious as everyone else.
« Last post by SURI on September 07, 2026, 11:17:09 PM »
Убийство и несчастный случай.

ENGLISH TRANSLATION:
Murder and accident.
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General Discussion / I'm as curious as everyone else
« Last post by Kayers3 on September 07, 2026, 09:16:23 PM »
Несмотря на все свидетельства, обнаруженные за прошедшие десятилетия, по-прежнему остается один вопрос: что же на самом деле произошло на перевале Дятлова?

Kayers3,
The official language of this forum is English. Please write in English in future posts. Thank you.
Amashilu
Moderator

ENGLISH TRANSLATION:
Despite all the evidence discovered over the past decades, there is still one question: what really happened at the Dyatlov Pass?
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Ziljoe, you scored many hits on that response. I too know that memory does not run like video tape. Instead we have snippets of memories, thoughts and feelings. We take cues from our environment, conversation and imagination to make a cohesive narrative.  This type of approach is being used by someone here recently who says in effect, take these bits of factoids and hearsay, then read between the lines, stitch them together and all will be revealed. The construct may be logical, but logic and objective truth are not the same.

I notice in the forensic reports that much of the damage reported to the hikers is upper torso, particularly head and face, which are of course most exposed to the elements. What we do not read are abdominal injuries, thigh, shin, ankle and foot fractures. As you note pelvic girdles are intact. Your analysis pretty decisively allows for natural conditions to bring about evidence for a tragic but natural occurrence affecting the upper torso.

The Yuris are something to ponder. You would think if anyone was going to get a skull fracture, it would be someone(s) climbing up an icy tree for wood or to get a better look at something.
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The reason I keep returning to the injuries is because they’re the one part of the record that doesn’t depend on memories, interviews, case‑file inconsistencies, or speculation. They’re physical facts. And the pattern across the four ravine hikers is internally consistent no matter what theory someone prefers.

- Dubinina — bilateral inward rib fractures, flail chest, massive internal bleeding, lung flooding. 
- Zolotaryov — unilateral rib fractures, internal bleeding, same mechanism but smaller load. 
- Thibeaux‑Brignolle — skull compression fracture, partial lung flooding, no rib fractures. 
- Kolevatov — no chest trauma, no skull trauma, but trapped and dying from cold and compromised breathing.

This is not a random pattern. 
It’s not chaotic. 
It’s not inconsistent. 
It’s not “mysterious.” 

It’s exactly what you’d expect from a localised vertical load — a roof failure where different people receive different loads depending on their position under the slab.

The injuries don’t care about conspiracy theories. 
They don’t care about case‑file typing. 
They don’t care about witness contradictions. 
They don’t care about who handled the cameras. 

They’re the anchor.

And the anchor points to a mechanical event, not a political one.

I shall get round to explaining the ravine environment in time with hopefully a terrain model to help with visualisation.
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One thing that gets missed in every Dyatlov conspiracy theory is the sheer amount of unrestricted access random students, hikers, locals, and volunteers had to everything at the pass. If the KGB were involved, none of that would have been allowed. Cameras, diaries, film rolls, notes, pockets, backpacks — all of it would have been seized immediately. Instead, everything passed from pillar to post.

This is where the gorilla experiment comes in. 
The experiment is real, peer‑reviewed, and replicated hundreds of times. It shows that people can miss huge, obvious events when their attention is elsewhere. Human memory is unreliable even under ideal conditions — never mind freezing temperatures, stress, fatigue, and multiple search teams arriving on different days. So of course the case file contains contradictions. That’s normal. It’s exactly what you’d expect. The students and searchers were not trained investigators , they had various duties to carry out , and the main duty was to find the hikers alive , not memorize they layout of everything they saw , and their attention then turned to finding the dead, the logistics of transporting them , building their own camp etc.

What conspiracy theorists miss is that normal human inconsistency is not evidence of manipulation. It’s evidence of human cognition. Witnesses misremember colours in robberies. People fail to notice a gorilla walking through a basketball court. Searchers in 1959 misremember who saw what, when, and in what order. That’s not a cover‑up — that’s psychology.

And this is the key point: 
If the KGB were involved, the site would have been locked down tighter than a drum. Civilians would never have handled the cameras, never developed the films, never sorted the diaries, never opened the tent, never moved the bodies, never passed items around, never guessed who owned what. Yet Yudin had to go through the equipment and literally guess which items belonged to which hiker. That alone tells you the investigation was not under state‑secret control.

The search effort was chaotic, open, and civilian‑driven. 
That is the opposite of a KGB operation.

If anything was altered, the more likely source is post‑release editorialising by journalists decades later — not KGB officers rewriting rib fractures or lung findings. The physical injuries themselves are not state secrets. There is no reason for a KGB officer to alter medical trauma patterns. The injuries are the most stable part of the record, and they still need a physical explanation.

So when people say the autopsies are “fake,” they create an endless loop. 
If the autopsies are fake, then no theory can rely on them — not collapse, not blast wave, not fall, not fight. Yet the same people selectively use those autopsies when they support their preferred theory and dismiss them when they don’t. That contradiction is unavoidable.

The simplest, most grounded interpretation is this:

>The case file is exactly what you’d expect from a rural winter investigation in 1959 — messy, inconsistent, human, and transparent. Not controlled, not polished, not sealed, not rewritten. Just normal people doing their best in difficult conditions.

And because the physical injuries are consistent across photos, terrain, and autopsies, they remain the strongest anchor for understanding what actually happened.
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