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General Discussion / Does this explain the "Why" of it?
« Last post by GlennM on June 18, 2026, 11:13:52 AM »

Any tough decision falls into one of three categorical types, commonly known as dilemmas. These choices are (1) approach-approach (choosing between two equally desirable outcomes). Example, the donkey who starved by being tied between two stalls of hay. Next (2) is approach-avoidance (drawn to and repelled at the same time) Example, overeating. Example, wanting to take the medicine, but hating the side effects. Third (3) avoidance-avoidance (choosing the lesser of two evils) Example, a court sentence to pay the fine or do the time. Example, choose between the devil and the deep.

The choices are you do, you don’t or you procrastinate. The dilemma and choices may change if the environment changes.
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General Discussion / Re: Teddy's next trip
« Last post by Hunter on June 18, 2026, 10:42:48 AM »
In theory, if there are numerous logging or tree-cutting areas, a camp should have been established there for a long time. For an overnight stay, felling one or two trees is enough, but if you were to stay in one place for several months, the logging area would be large, as the searchers had several tents, each requiring heating, plus a fire for cooking and heating water for household needs. But after so many years since the tragedy, the stumps could have rotted...

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По идее, если есть зоны вырубки или распиловки стволов компактно и много - там должен был долгое время стоять лагерь. Это для ночевки достаточно свалить 1-2 дерева, а вот если находиться на одном месте несколько месяцев, зона вырубки будет большой т.к. поисковиков было несколько палаток, а каждую надо отапливать, плюс огонь для приготовления пищи, нагрева воды для бытовых нужд. Но за столько лет с момента трагедии пни могли сгнить...

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Introductions / Re: Hello
« Last post by Teddy on June 17, 2026, 10:54:44 PM »
Welcome.
It's time you buy my book as well.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09HKHT8G8/

It won the "Russian Detective" award.
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Introductions / Hello
« Last post by Kayers3 on June 17, 2026, 10:39:51 PM »
Hi everyone, I first heard about the Dyatlov case when I was about 8 years old when my dad introduced me to the subject. I can't remember how he introduced it to me since it was so long ago. I was somewhat interested in the case at the time, but completely forgot about it until my dad re-introduced it to me when I was about 15-16 years old. As the years went on, I became more and more interested in the case to the point that I'm now obsessed with it and I'm determined to visit Dyatlov Pass myself someday. I watch documentaries on the subject like crazy and I have a copy of Dead Mountain by Donnie Eichar and Don't Go There by Svetlana Oss, as well along with a few other books as well.
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General Discussion / Re: Teddy's next trip
« Last post by Teddy on June 17, 2026, 10:08:41 PM »
Much discussion has been generated about the ravine, but I have trouble with its location and it's shape. I have trouble appreciating where the mat and the bodies were when there is no snow around. It is pretty well documented where the bodies and mat were found, but that was in snow. How about in the dry season? I would not suggest anyone actually model the fallen hikers, but some sort of visual references would be nice. Speaking of which, how much trouble would it be to have marked poles for scale so distances and heights could be more accurately talked about.

Poles, mannequins, videos have been produced about the ravine winter and summer for decades.

https://dyatlovpass.com/expedition-2023#6





We are told that in winter only the cedar was capable of producing firewood, yet the group did not bring fire to the ravine, and for all I know, they let the fire die before they did. Is there usable firewood other than cedar ? Are there other cedars? Why would any right minded person make a fire and then move away from it?

Firewood is everywhere. Broken branches. No need to climb. This is why it is difficult for me to locate where Dyatlov's camp could have been.
This year I am investigating more of Shura's camps because he always camps in winter near the cedar. On one hand this is bad because I keep finding his junk, but on the other hand he is pinpointing the good clearings in winter for a camp.


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General Discussion / Teddy's next trip
« Last post by GlennM on June 17, 2026, 09:41:20 PM »
Most of us know that Teddy is again going to the site if the DPI in search of evidence. Many of us in the forum have asked, hinted and wished she and her independently minded group would pursue some idea we have explored in the forum.  In anticipation of her successful expedition, what would you and I hope the labors of the group reveal? Where do we think the search might go?

Although I am strictly in the " weather caused it" camp, I have some interest in the lights in the sky discussion. Specifically, could a meteorite be any part of the mystery?  If so, was there Mansi lore, Forester records or actual meteorites found anywhere in the area?

The case files speak to the footprint trail not being continuous. What could have obliterated sections of those prints? Is there a slope capable of slipping enough snow to wipe out those sections of the foot trail?

Much discussion has been generated about the ravine, but I have trouble with its location and it's shape. I have trouble appreciating where the mat and the bodies were when there is no snow around. It is pretty well documented where the bodies and mat were found, but that was in snow. How about in the dry season? I would not suggest anyone actually model the fallen hikers, but some sort of visual references would be nice. Speaking of which, how much trouble would it be to have marked poles for scale so distances and heights could be more accurately talked about.

We are told that in winter only the cedar was capable of producing firewood, yet the group did not bring fire to the ravine, and for all I know, they let the fire die before they did. Is there usable firewood other than cedar ? Are there other cedars? Why would any right minded person make a fire and then move away from it?

Is there any evidence at all that like the Mansi, the DP9 carved anything on a tree ?

What would anyone else hope for in support of their theory?

I believe each member of Teddy's group is spending time and money to chase an idea. Will we know what those ideas are and what their investigations produced?

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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by SURI on June 17, 2026, 09:37:15 AM »
Exactly. Both Yuris needed to remain invisible, so why would they start a fire? And they wouldn’t have anything to light it with anyway. Slobodin and Kolevatov, who were on the slope at that time, had the matches on them. The rest of the group was therefore still on the slope, but the two Yuris already needed to be by the cedar tree. They arrived there first, and some didn't arrive at all.
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The two Yuris hid Dyatlov under a birch tree and then hid themselves in a cedar tree.
And what was the rest of the group doing at that time?

By the way, lighting a fire at the place where one is hiding is not a good idea.
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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes
« Last post by SURI on June 17, 2026, 07:24:06 AM »
This body does not have a dynamic pose. Its pose feels somewhat restricted – the arms and legs are close together. The urinary bladder is overfilled. The body had not moved for a long time and was placed at the location.

The two Yuris hid Dyatlov under a birch tree and then hid themselves in a cedar tree.
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Meteor / Re: Boston Meteor on May 30, 2026
« Last post by GlennM on June 17, 2026, 06:24:16 AM »
OK, 10 books, 6 audiobooks, 3 movies, 5 podcasts and 17 YouTube videos....or just one of each if we are to be conservative.

This is a deflection from the topic. Let me help.

If a meteor is associated with the DPI, it would be an indirect effect. Meteors hitting people are exceedingly rare. Hitting a tent,, moreso. A sonic boom making a snow slide, wishful thinking. In other words, a meteor has  no value in the understanding of the DPI.

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