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General Discussion / Route to Otorten

« Last post by Lampe7 on June 16, 2026, 12:22:47 AM »

First I thought, that the group walked the wrong way on the 01.02.1959. It was nearly pointed out as a fact within the book I have.

But in reference to the newer map (attached and found in the forum), the route to Otorten over the top of the hills, is marked as a possible way.
And it was also in the past used from the mansi.
So, yes, they didn't walked a long way on the 01.02.1959.
But the route seems not to be wrong.

Or are there facts that underline, that they where in the wrong route? What is your status on this point.

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General Discussion / Re: Igor Djatlow Diary

« Last post by Lampe7 on June 15, 2026, 01:10:31 PM »

Hi Hunter,

Thank you again. I think it ist a mistake in translation of my actual book. It reference to Djatlows Diary but i think the group Journal ist ment.

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General Discussion / Re: Igor Djatlow Diary

« Last post by Hunter on June 15, 2026, 09:52:32 AM »

Как такового дневника Игоря нет. Есть сканы его блокнота датированные 1957 годом, но это не походные дневники в привычном понимании или планы на следующие походы.

Igor doesn't have a diary as such. There are scans of his notebook dated 1957, but these aren't hiking diaries in the traditional sense or plans for future expeditions.

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General Discussion / Igor Djatlow Diary

« Last post by Lampe7 on June 15, 2026, 12:52:27 AM »

I have noticed, that Igor Djatlow also had a diary on the tour, where he also noticed the routes he had and want to go.

I didn't found it in this forum. I found other diaries but not the on of Igor Djatlow.

Ist there a original or transcript?

Thank you very much.

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by SURI on June 14, 2026, 10:06:44 PM »

@Senior Maldonado

P.S. If you take every word Ivanov says literally, you will never understand him. First, you need to know where to begin. I would start with the names, because DPI is about names, not rockets.

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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes

« Last post by GlennM on June 14, 2026, 11:51:47 AM »

I discount conspiracy theories period. For example, if Zolo was some sort of an infiltrator, he would have had an easier time bumping Yuri Yuden for a place on the hike rather than waiting for a chance opening. I do ask for a direct explanation of what the unlikely number if footprints is supposed to mean. Until I get clarification,I contend they all left together and tried to survive the conditions in the forest together until hypothermia prevailed.

I do not understand why a fire was not maintained and a snow cave was not also far better constructed. I surmise that firewood was too scarce and/ or winds too high. I do not get why searchers of the R4 group did not find worked snow.  I am not inclined to believe someone, for lack of a suitable weapon, was clubbing others with tree branches instead of using it for firewood. I am reminded that nobody at any time made an official condemnation of the hikers as dissidents or defectors. All of that is nonsense on stilts!

i am open to explanations that do not involve Zolo being the mad hatter or batter😀 It is known that conspiracy theorists can be both passionate and wrong.

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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes

« Last post by SURI on June 14, 2026, 08:12:59 AM »

@GlennM

I think you are the one spinning conspiracies now by claiming there were 9 pairs of footprints. Tempalov clearly stated in an underlined note that he did not find the ninth footprint because it simply wasn’t there. And believe me, he knew exactly what he was talking about.

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by GlennM on June 14, 2026, 07:39:53 AM »

The only thing missing was a viable escape plan which was wholly lacking.

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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes

« Last post by GlennM on June 14, 2026, 07:37:31 AM »

The point is that tracks in the snow are subject to the weather. There is no guarantee that they will necessarily last. Those who discovered the tracks made tracks. The liklihood that an individual can mask their movement over at least 1,500 steps is improbable to the point of impossibility. Wishful thinking is easier.

It is clear that all left the tent. No records indicate any reversal of footprints enroute to the woods. There was a flashlight found enroute, a most inneffective weapon.

There was nothing about the depth of prints to suggest anyone was carried. There was no foot dragging identified. Simply put, nine people left the tent alive and were later found dead.

I feel that the analysis of the mystery by the footprint evidence is like trying to determine the number of stones tossed into a pond by analysing the ripples on the opposite shore.

I also find the psychotic Zolo hypothesis a convenient way to besmirch the memory of someone who actually was said to have writing materials in hand near death. 

With regard to the latter, i find it impossible to consider anyone with glast related crushed ribs wanting to grab for a pencil and paper to write something down when they were dying in unimaginable pain. No, the injuries to Zolo and Lyuda were post mortem, though it baffles me that their bodies were positioned as they were.

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by SURI on June 14, 2026, 07:28:24 AM »

@Senior Maldonado

I understand your effort to make sense of Ivanov, and I know it is not easy. However, all it takes for me is a single sentence from him to know that rockets were definitely not involved.

„...and many associated these mysterious phenomena, including unidentified flying objects with military tests, but investigative actions indicated that the case of Dyatlov group had nothing to do with military tests.“


With this sentence, he also rules out rockets entirely.

„Someone needed to frighten or punish people, or show their strength, and they did this, killing three people.“

This particular sentence leaves almost no room for alternative theories, especially when you also factor in the 8 sets of footprints on the slope and other circumstances.


Back when he wrote that newspaper article, the "fireballs" that he had in mind along with the "astronauts" still existed. Today, they are gone...