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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 02:57:37 PM »

The remains were posed and the camera angle chosen for documentation. If there was something to reveal, it would be to record who each person was. If there were anything else of importance, that feature and the distance to the feature would be different. ( read closeup). I contend the photos were retouched. I am not convinced it was done to hide anything, but rather to increase contrast. The postures of the deceased may be explained from hypothermia and hypoxia. The lack of breathable air and the greatly slowed metabolism put them to sleep. I consider that the sum of the exertion of their trip to the last camp, descent to the woods, effort to excavate a shelter, heat loss and hunger exhausted all of them to the point of unconsciousness and suffocation accelerated by encasement in snow. I am open to another interpretation.

I'm pleased that you are open to another interpretation. How about Mutilation, as in the infamous Animal Mutilations?

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 02:55:30 PM »

I ask myself, is it just a coincidence that they were photographed in pairs like this? I don't think so. Dubinina with her hands up, Thibeaux with his leg bent, Zolotaryov with his arm bent and raised, and according to the radiogram, Kolevatov in an embracing position. This most likely means they weren't buried and suffocated by snow, especially considering Thibeaux could have survived for up to two hours after his injury. I think the photographs reveal a great deal.

To me, they are saying Mutilations. Similar to the infamous Animal Mutilations that occur around the World.

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 02:53:14 PM »

I noticed a laughing Yudin a long time ago....

If I were addressing the ravine and what came next, I would look directly to these photographs. They are a better clue than the snow itself.

Of course, you must mean a terrified expression on his face.

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 02:51:01 PM »

A big circle of wiped snow is not what a fallen hull of a rocket produces. It would make a crater of some sort. The rotors of a helicopter, however, could. That said, since the supposed rocket stage did not actually fall on the hikers, the natural speculation is that it fell to ground elsewhere with
 fuel left in it. These vapors dispersed in the direction of the tent causing suffocating, choking chemical burns. This sent them all down the slope.

Where I run into a problem with this is firstly 1079 and 880 were well searched without significant supporting findings in the case files. Secondly, nine people walking a mile with chemically burned lungs is pretty impressive though unlikely l. Third, none of the propellent was identified on any clothes.  That said, it is a wonderfully impressive alternative to boring old wind and snow. There is probably a book in it somewhere.

A UFO could cause the circle!

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General Discussion / Re: Does this explain the "Why" of it?

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 02:47:31 PM »

Any tough decision falls into one of three categorical types, commonly known as dilemmas. These choices are (1) approach-approach (choosing between two equally desirable outcomes). Example, the donkey who starved by being tied between two stalls of hay. Next (2) is approach-avoidance (drawn to and repelled at the same time) Example, overeating. Example, wanting to take the medicine, but hating the side effects. Third (3) avoidance-avoidance (choosing the lesser of two evils) Example, a court sentence to pay the fine or do the time. Example, choose between the devil and the deep.

The choices are you do, you don’t or you procrastinate. The dilemma and choices may change if the environment changes.

What exactly are you getting at?

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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 02:42:32 PM »

The point is that tracks in the snow are subject to the weather. There is no guarantee that they will necessarily last. Those who discovered the tracks made tracks. The liklihood that an individual can mask their movement over at least 1,500 steps is improbable to the point of impossibility. Wishful thinking is easier.
It is clear that all left the tent. No records indicate any reversal of footprints enroute to the woods. There was a flashlight found enroute, a most inneffective weapon.
There was nothing about the depth of prints to suggest anyone was carried. There was no foot dragging identified. Simply put, nine people left the tent alive and were later found dead.
With regard to the latter, i find it impossible to consider anyone with glast related crushed ribs wanting to grab for a pencil and paper to write something down when they were dying in unimaginable pain. No, the injuries to Zolo and Lyuda were post mortem, though it baffles me that their bodies were positioned as they were.

Footprints and injuries. We don't know if the footprints were those from the Dyatlov Group. The horrific injuries to 2 of the group were definitely not caused post mortem.

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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 02:37:54 PM »

SOGRIN]: There were nine tracks! I counted those tracks myself.

This is just one of the problems for anyone trying to investigate the Dyatlov mystery. We get contradicting statements over a period of time. 

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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 02:33:06 PM »

Hard to verify when DyatlovPass.com is being attacked just now. Nine hikers, nine sets of prints makes sense to me. What am I missing? Is this a conspiracy theory?

Nine sets of footprints? And how do we know that any footprints were from the Dyatlov Group?/

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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 02:31:05 PM »

It's a mistake to ignore this number. You'll even find it underlined in the case files. So if you want to do a serious investigation, you should start wondering whose footprints were missing and why. You probably want to know what happened at the tent, right?

Something I have raised many times in this Forum. We are told that there was a certain number of footprints. But not the footprints of all the Dyatlov Group! Why not?

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General Discussion / Re: Connection between broken ribs and missing eyes

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 02:28:06 PM »

As long as the toes were going down hill. I am not too concerned about the number estimated.

Well, a proper investigation should have been conducted. We are told that there were a certain number of footprints.