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UFO / Re: Not going to happen

« Last post by sarapuk on June 24, 2026, 01:51:45 PM »

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Nice try, GlennM. But you are going by accepted wisdom. But such wisdom is not absolutely proven. The assumption that nothing can go faster than the speed of light is incorrect. There are many possibilities that can account for travel to distant galaxies etc.

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by SURI on June 24, 2026, 01:49:01 AM »

And they would have an even harder time if they had to base their theories on just 8 pairs of footprints and a group on the slope that was never even near the campfire. So far, they haven't gotten a single thing right.

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by Senior Maldonado on June 24, 2026, 01:07:34 AM »

It was a natural calamity.

I am afraid, you need a few natural calamities to explain all the events in course of DPI. You need one natural force at the tent site to push the hikers outside, another one to act near the cedar tree, and one more in the ravine to kill the last 4 hikers. Also you need to find a natural source for radioactive contamination with pure beta emitter. Hard work ahead to collect all that, isn't it? 

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by Ziljoe on June 23, 2026, 10:16:51 PM »

I see that interview as  a routine questionnaire that happens perhaps quarterly or monthly. A standard procedure.

This is fine, but nothing prevents us from considering completely different option.

In Volume II of the case files we can see so-called 'secret task' to local police office, issued by Ivanov on behalf of Akhmin. In the text of the 'task' we can see that there were other tasks issued earlier. Surprisingly, those tasks escaped the case files and got lost. However, from the case files we can see that at least one policeman, cpt.Chudinov, worked according to those tasks performing interrogations for DPI investigation sake. So, the February 6th interrogation could be a reflection of those tasks execution. At a larger scale, we can surmise that the known case files are just a reflection of classified case files to the civil world.

Of course nothing stops us from considering other options . It's always good to focus at a microscopic level but it's always good to zoom back out .

I'm not so sure if it was a secret task , probably more confidential. I believe that's the translation and it was just note keeping to be destroyed after the case concluded. From doing Google , the word seems to mean the lowest level, like " for your eyes only". Again just standard procedure . Interrogation just means interview, the words just don't translate well.

Even the autopsies say the possibile cause of injuries could have been compression of the chest.

If an recovery team got to the area and saw a tent , I would suspect they would the would hunt down possible spys but what's secret about an empty tin can that no known stage could land there?

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by GlennM on June 23, 2026, 09:25:19 PM »

Any "secret task" does not negate what all the eyes, ears and mouths of the students,Mansi and military could communicate...if there was something to be secretive about. That is far too many people over far to great a distance and no documented history of suppression. It was a natural calamity.

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by Senior Maldonado on June 23, 2026, 04:47:48 AM »

I see that interview as  a routine questionnaire that happens perhaps quarterly or monthly. A standard procedure.

This is fine, but nothing prevents us from considering completely different option.

In Volume II of the case files we can see so-called 'secret task' to local police office, issued by Ivanov on behalf of Akhmin. In the text of the 'task' we can see that there were other tasks issued earlier. Surprisingly, those tasks escaped the case files and got lost. However, from the case files we can see that at least one policeman, cpt.Chudinov, worked according to those tasks performing interrogations for DPI investigation sake. So, the February 6th interrogation could be a reflection of those tasks execution. At a larger scale, we can surmise that the known case files are just a reflection of classified case files to the civil world.

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by Ziljoe on June 23, 2026, 03:55:43 AM »

There would be a problem in finding any crashed rocket stages if they had any chance of being complete , the search would be vast and a number of helicopters would be needed to locate a stage. Weather windows would need to be found as well as day light hours . Lifting any underslung large surface stage in those conditions would be a risk in its self .

Sometimes it can be a problem, sometimes not. There are no trees on 1079 that can hide a fallen stage or fall themselves when the stage bumps the slope. I am not a specialist in finding used rockets' parts, but I guess it does not take a lot of effort to find parts if they land like that:

I am no expert on rockets either, especially finding them. But weather windows , grid location , organisation of retrieval, all take time in cold conditions and remote areas. Any specialized rocket recovery group would need to be transported from the known work locations of these recovery groups . Helicopters would have to do shuttle runs from that location to the nearest airport to dyatlov pass , large chunks of rocket stages would have to slung under the helicopter that would be seen. The weather conditions would have had to not cover the rocket stage and it not land in the trees .Those in charge would have to gauge whether it was worth the effort to retrieve a not so special large tin can . It would be difficult for the military to remove and the Mansi wouldn't steal it.

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by Ziljoe on June 23, 2026, 03:31:36 AM »

Mr Popovs interrogation does not fit within a frame of investigation..

Popov's document belongs to the case and for Ivanov it represented one of many conclusive pieces of evidence, therefore it is included in the case file.

Sorry Suri, I meant in the context of this statement.

"They also had no idea which direction the hikers might depart.  The search team returned to the base and informed their commanders about the tent. The commanders in turn informed Moscow, special Prosecutor's office investigation team was set up, and interrogations started to understand what had happened. Mr. Popov was one of the first to be interrogated."

If a rocket part fell on 1079 on the 1st , it leaves little time, first to find the missing rocket part ,  then  get a reaction force together , then lift it if possible, then inform Moscow, then set up an investigation team , then contact a local police officer to ask a Mr Popov what he saw mid January. It makes no sense.

I see that interview as  a routine questionnaire that happens perhaps quarterly or monthly. A standard procedure.


 

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by Senior Maldonado on June 23, 2026, 01:51:34 AM »

There would be a problem in finding any crashed rocket stages if they had any chance of being complete , the search would be vast and a number of helicopters would be needed to locate a stage. Weather windows would need to be found as well as day light hours . Lifting any underslung large surface stage in those conditions would be a risk in its self .

Sometimes it can be a problem, sometimes not. There are no trees on 1079 that can hide a fallen stage or fall themselves when the stage bumps the slope. I am not a specialist in finding used rockets' parts, but I guess it does not take a lot of effort to find parts if they land like that:

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General Discussion / Re: Nothing goes there

« Last post by SURI on June 23, 2026, 12:26:37 AM »

Mr Popovs interrogation does not fit within a frame of investigation..

Popov's document belongs to the case and for Ivanov it represented one of many conclusive pieces of evidence, therefore it is included in the case file.