Bartolomey

[sarapuk]

This force can be unknown and unknowable. The force can be unknown but knowable. The forum exists because as reasonable people,me believe the unknown will be made known.

It that regard the unknown and unknowable could be grouped into the categories of fantasy or science fiction. In fantasy, elves, fairies,demons and spirits would be associated with the disaster. These constructs are not real and never were. We can rule out boogie man type explanations Any explanation of a fantastic nature can be dismissed.

Science fiction, on the other hand are plausible causes except the discovery of them, then technology to produce them and the laws that govern them are yet to be realized. This encompasses cryptid life forms terrestrial and otherwise. It includes wave and beam technologies and mechanisms which were not there in '59.

Sounds a bit contradictory. You are ruling out explanations of a fantastic nature and then say science fiction is plausible !?

[sarapuk]

correct translation is "elemental force" (стихийная сила) not "natural force" (природная сила, естественная сила)
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Let's face it, people can make mistakes or just say something that may mean something slightly different than what they intended to convey. We have a force that caused the demise of the Dyatlov Group. We don't know what that force was. We don't need to keep making mountains out of mole hills, do we?

[sarapuk]

Weather could not have forced them to abandon the tent, because the Dyatlov Pass tragedy began to be written even before the expedition. Nor could weather remove the material evidence of a planned crime. Neither the diaries nor Zolotaryov’s camera disappeared.

Weather may have played a part, but not necessarily the part or parts that killed the entire Dyatlov Group. It still seems strange to me that they chose to pitch a tent on that very exposed mountain slope. Exposed to strong winds, which certainly force temperatures down considerably. The slope wasn't steep, so it was not a dangerous place as far as potential snow slides were concerned. Just very exposed to wind. If anyone has been out in exposed locations in temperatures well below freezing, they will know just how brutal the wind factor can be.

[sarapuk]

When forum members write that they reject mystical theories, they themselves don't realize they're putting forward mystical theories.
The Dyatlov group mysteriously perishes from wind and snow. A mystical, imaginary avalanche descends on the tourists' tent. Then they mystically freeze to death.

All of this is constructed in the mind, as if this is how it should be. Do you have a more rational explanation?
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You have a point.

I believe that nothing should be ruled out in this Dyatlov Mystery. It was an unusual event or events that led to the demise of the Dyatlov Group.

[GlennM]

For Sarapuk. To clarify my comment, consider a comparison between a fairy tale like Peter Pan and Science Fiction  20000 Leagues. Fairies like Tinkerbelle are not real, never were and never will be. Please do not go simple on me .

 In 20000 leagues, the Nautilus was not real, but even at the time  with certain future developments in propulsion and metallurgy, it could be developed into a real machine. Today, of course, we have submarines , but no Tinkerbelles.

I think you already knew this but were argumentative just to keep a bit of energy going in the forum.

If you want something to ponder, then rationalize which came first, the fire at the cedar or the digging at the ravine.